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Richard Springs Power Forward (Heading This Way?)

HuskyHawk said:
That's because Wilson is a pure wing, and only a crazy person would even try to play him at the 4. He's a small forward and that's the only position he should ever play. I think Akok and Polley, plus Whaley, already ensure Wilson never plays PF again.

Same was true of Larrier, and yet our former coach played him at the 4.
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Wings are good shooters?
 
They list the kid as 6’10
Length is something
pj said:
Springs is a different look from Akok, Polley, and Wilson. An active big man adds a lot of value. He might be a step up from Whaley as backup center before long, albeit undersized.
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He is listed as 6’10 some places
With Carlton, Polley,Akok, Whaley even Wilson, you have to like our length even Bouknight and Adams are big. Hurley might have the pieces in place up front
The only weakness I see is PG
1. An Injury prone Gilbert,
2. Freshman (shudder) Gaffney
Then Pick one ;
CV
Adams (. Wrong first name)
Boukright another Freshman whose a 2
We’re thin at the guard especially if he plays three at once.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
They list the kid as 6’10
Length is something

He is listed as 6’10 some places
With Carlton, Polley,Akok, Whaley even Wilson, you have to like our length even Bouknight and Adams are big. Hurley might have the pieces in place up front
The only weakness I see is PG
1. An Injury prone Gilbert,
2. Freshman (shudder) Gaffney
Then Pick one ;
CV
Adams (. Wrong first name)
Boukright another Freshman whose a 2
We’re thin at the guard especially if he plays three at once.
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You could just as easily say that one scholarship down and one open, with Whaley, Wilson, and Polley not having shown a lot, we are thin at forward and center. Carlton, Akok, Polley, Wilson, Whaley -- that is one center and one PF shy of a normal roster.

Although we'll be relying heavily on young talent like Akok, Springs, Bouknight, and Gaffney, and that may limit the ceiling in 2019-20, I think it's fair to say that the addition of Springs will give us improved coverage of all needs.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
They list the kid as 6’10
Length is something

He is listed as 6’10 some places
With Carlton, Polley,Akok, Whaley even Wilson, you have to like our length even Bouknight and Adams are big. Hurley might have the pieces in place up front
The only weakness I see is PG
1. An Injury prone Gilbert,
2. Freshman (shudder) Gaffney
Then Pick one ;
CV
Adams (. Wrong first name)
Boukright another Freshman whose a 2
We’re thin at the guard especially if he plays three at once.
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The only weakness you see is point guard. Uhh, Gilbert is our best player.
 
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superjohn said:
The only weakness you see is point guard. Uhh, Gilbert is our best player.
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He based the comment on Gilbert’s shoulder. Totally reasonable. We could definitely use another true PG on our bench. Hopefully, Gaffney is ready to play because if Gilbert does run into injury issues, we’ll be back to CV running point and that just isn’t ideal.
 
Hoophound said:
He based the comment on Gilbert’s shoulder. Totally reasonable. We could definitely use another true PG on our bench. Hopefully, Gaffney is ready to play because if Gilbert does run into injury issues, we’ll be back to CV running point and that just isn’t ideal.
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He said the only weakness he sees is point guard. This is a team where only Carlton has shown any kind of a pulse in the frontcourt to this point.
 
I’d argue that our PG situation is about the same as our center situation now that we’ve added Akok. There isn’t room for the starter to go down at either position. The difference is, AG has a history of getting hurt.

I guess my point is, his post wasn’t at all outrageous or misinformed. He’s just saying, PG is a tough position to fake and we only have one PG unless Gaffney is ready go. I’d rather play 3 wings up front than play someone at PG that just doesn’t have the skill set.
 
Hoophound said:
I’d rather play 3 wings up front than play someone at PG that just doesn’t have the skill set.
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This Would make no difference as far as our tourney hopes are concerned. But Assuming everyone’s healthy and we use a three guard lineup with vital and bouk then PG has to be our strongest position. If springs reclassifies maybe I’ll reconsider cause I’m so optimistic about akok.
 
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The difference between the PG and C position is that there is literally no actual center to take Carlton's place if he has foul trouble/injury/etc. We have one true point in Gaffney to replace Alterique if we have to. Neither situation is ideal, but the C situation is worse.

Springs and Whaley could put in some minutes to get us by. Akok might play some against smaller teams in a pinch.
 
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fleudslipcon said:
A player who several posters consider is behind Whaley taking up a scholarship for four years is a big risk to take in order to have an insurance policy. I’m not saying coach Hurley should not take the kid. He’s proven to be able to find talent. But a lot is riding on the performance of men’s basketball especially with going to the BE.
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You're not taking into account that those people are morons.
 
superjohn said:
Some boneyarders have convinced themselves over the summer that Whaley is good.
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No worse at his position than say Donell Beverly who got a few minutes on some good teams. Whaley can help us when used sparingly and correctly.
 
Another big body will definitely be beneficial. Carlton and Akok will handle the 4/5. Outside of that we are going to be asking Whaley to be the main backup, who is undersized at the 5 position, and Polley to be the main backup at the 3/4 where he does not have the ideal skill set you want in a 4. Wilson is a slasher and should only be playing the 3.

At this stage in the recruiting I hope Springs reclassifies and we can get some useful minutes from him in the frontcourt. Kind of like what we saw from Whaley in his freshman campaign where he actually showed some flashes.
 
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As you know, Chief has been a proponent. I like guys who have an offensive rebounding mindset. We have too many guys who can’t shoot threes, but want to live on the three line. Offensive rebounding is a mindset and Richard keeps trying to get closer to the basket. I think even now he uses his body well to protect the ball when he goes up for shots inside. If he can put some muscle on that can become even more of a strength.
What I don’t like sometimes is his assist to turnover ratio. If he was a guard that would be a showstopper. He needs to tighten that up.
 
uconnever said:
No worse at his position than say Donell Beverly who got a few minutes on some good teams. Whaley can help us when used sparingly and correctly.
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Donell Beverly's inefficiencies were overshadowed by elite talent and athleticism surrounding him that doesn't exist with this roster. As a result, Whaley's inefficiencies aren't masked but exposed. Its hard imagining with what we have seen that he will be any help vs a quality opponent. Then again, we might have no choice.
 
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husky429 said:
The difference between the PG and C position is that there is literally no actual center to take Carlton's place if he has foul trouble/injury/etc. We have one true point in Gaffney to replace Alterique if we have to. Neither situation is ideal, but the C situation is worse.

Springs and Whaley could put in some minutes to get us by. Akok might play some against smaller teams in a pinch.
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Yes, but in this day and age “Center” isn’t what it used to be. Lots of teams play a traditional PF at center.

If Gaffney is a true PG, great. To my knowledge he’s a SG/combo guard that people think can become a great PG. AG is the only true PG we have as of today unless my sources are wrong.
 
Chief00 said:
As you know, Chief has been a proponent. I like guys who have an offensive rebounding mindset. We have too many guys who can’t shoot threes, but want to live on the three line. Offensive rebounding is a mindset and Richard keeps trying to get closer to the basket. I think even now he uses his body well to protect the ball when he goes up for shots inside. If he can put some muscle on that can become even more of a strength.
What I don’t like sometimes is his assist to turnover ratio. If he was a guard that would be a showstopper. He needs to tighten that up.
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Tighten (clap) that (clap) s&$@ (clap) up!
 
Hoophound said:
Yes, but in this day and age “Center” isn’t what it used to be. Lots of teams play a traditional PF at center.

If Gaffney is a true PG, great. To my knowledge he’s a SG/combo guard that people think can become a great PG. AG is the only true PG we have as of today unless my sources are wrong.
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Gaffney is as much a point guard as Jalen was, or AG Price. He's fine. He was a PG in HS. He's a scoring point, and that's ok. We have Cole coming in, so it's certainly not a priority position at the moment. I think B. Adams would be our 3rd PG off the bench over CV.

Agree center position has changed, and we have extreme length and shotblocking at the 4 with Akok. We can survive with Whaley playing 10 minutes at the 5.

As for Springs, I still don't know what to think. His videos show me he can run the floor and finish on the break. They don't show much else. Given that I think we plan to run, his skill set may generate more offense than we'd expect in a slow half-court game. And defensive rebounding again drives that running game. I haven't seen any comments about outlet passes. If he is naturally good at that, and is a good defender, then I would see why Hurley wants him.
 
CL82 said:
Sid is the returning player I'm most curious about. So much athleticism, yet he looked lost many times on the court. Understandable given that he joined the team mid-season. But unless Hurley is sandbagging, it doesn't sound that he's making great strides right now.
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As always, we should wait and see what happens on the court. But, given the rumblings last fall about his work ethic and attitude, it wouldn't surprise me to see little progress.
 
Engineer90 said:
As always, we should wait and see what happens on the court. But, given the rumblings last fall about his work ethic and attitude, it wouldn't surprise me to see little progress.
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Wilson had an entire year, redshirting, to figure some things out. Would you expect some rust to have to be shaken off? Sure. But even under the old staff, would you have expected him to be mentally ready to start making decisions at the speed they have to be made in college basketball? Heck yes.

He has the physical talent to succeed. But there have to be serious concerns at this point as to whether he will succeed.
 
Hoophound said:
Yes, but in this day and age “Center” isn’t what it used to be. Lots of teams play a traditional PF at center.

If Gaffney is a true PG, great. To my knowledge he’s a SG/combo guard that people think can become a great PG. AG is the only true PG we have as of today unless my sources are wrong.
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Well you heard wrong. He's played PG on every team he's been on. At least in the last two years.
 
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husky429 said:
Well you heard wrong. He's played PG on every team he's been on.
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Gaffney will be right in the mix this year. Helping to push the ball in transition with his speed and handle, rotating in for AG and running the point, and just being a versatile attacking/shooting part of our offense, and defensively with his quickness and athleticism getting good minutes.
 
We once won a National Championship with Tyler Olander as our starting 4... just sayin
 
RichZ said:
wild speculation here
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if this is what our lineup and minute distribution looks like by the time we reach conference play we will be dancing again

gilbert (30)--gaffney (16)
vital (30)----adams (8)
bouk (24)---wilson (12)
akok (24)---polley (20)
carlton (26)-springs (10)
 
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