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Report: Notre Dame in Talks to Join ACC as Full Member

AZHuskiePop said:
Isn't Silicon sand
In the Ocean,lakes, Ponds or even rivers the sand is normally where:
1 Top
2 Bottom
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Sand can be silicon.
Silicone contains oxygen.
Sorry, back to 63% ACC member ND.
 
HuskyPete said:
The New ACC North Division

Syracuse
Boston College
Connecticut
Pittsburgh
Norte Dame
Louisville
Virginia Tech
Virginia
Does has a old Big East tone to it, really need to make this happen.
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With 6 straight losing seasons in football and 14 gridiron wins in the last 4 years, it ain't happening.
 
TerryD said:
Yeah, that was soooo very long ago.
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Well to be fair, it's been over 4 years since they announced the renewal. And a lot has changed since. For one, ND is now getting lapped by closer to $10+ million compared to other P5 teams. And obviously the market has shifted in an as yet undetermined way. Will you all ever join? Unforseeable by us on the outside. But plausible. More plausible than it seemed 4 years ago.
 
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huskymedic said:
Dick Weiss‏ @HoopsWeiss 56m 56 minutes ago
tim brando of fox reporting notre dame in conversations to become full time acc member.

Tim Brando‏ @TimBrando 13m 13 minutes ago
Replying to @HoopsWeiss
Let's pump the breaks here Hoops! I've stated there have been discussions, informal yes, but it's my strong opinion it's a matter of time.
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Tim Brando‏ @TimBrando 1h 1 hour ago
Noticed Brian Kelly told Rotary Club His Dept. "Values Independence". A statement that belies comments privately & on record in past to me.

Tim Brando‏ @TimBrando 1h 1 hour ago
I'll repeat one last time. There was NEVER a report by me. So ND bloggers and local television stations. I answered a ? on a radio show..ok?


OK!
 
How is ND independent? Aren't all of their other sports officially in the ACC? Is ND considered independent just because their football team can schedule 5 or 6 out of conference games instead of the usual 3 or 4 every other team is limited to? Is that what independence amounts to? A few extra out of conference games a year for the football team?
 
HoopsFan21 said:
How is ND independent? Aren't all of their other sports officially in the ACC? Is ND considered independent just because their football team can schedule 5 or 6 out of conference games instead of the usual 3 or 4 every other team is limited to? Is that what independence amounts to? A few extra out of conference games a year for the football team?
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I agree, with both men's and women's basketball playing in the conference tournament, saying the school is an independent is laughable. IIRC the men's team won the ACC conference championship a couple years ago.
 
The juxtaposition (big word for me) of the arguments "oh yes, we are completely and equally contractually bound to the ACC" vs. the concurrent argument "independence or death (preferable over the Big Ten) for ND," is a curious one.
 
HoopsFan21 said:
How is ND independent? Aren't all of their other sports officially in the ACC?
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Notre Dame is a FBS Independent. Same as BYU (WCC for other sports) and UMass (A-10) for example.
 
HoopsFan21 said:
How is ND independent? Aren't all of their other sports officially in the ACC? Is ND considered independent just because their football team can schedule 5 or 6 out of conference games instead of the usual 3 or 4 every other team is limited to? Is that what independence amounts to? A few extra out of conference games a year for the football team?
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No, what it amounts to is the ability to have a separate TV contract.

huskyrob1 said:
I agree, with both men's and women's basketball playing in the conference tournament, saying the school is an independent is laughable. IIRC the men's team won the ACC conference championship a couple years ago.
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Same situation as in the Big East. They played for the Big East tournament in just about all other sports, too. They are an independent in football.
 
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ivrytontusker said:
No, what it amounts to is the ability to have a separate TV contract.



Same situation as in the Big East. They played for the Big East tournament in just about all other sports, too. They are an independent in football.
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Wow, I didn't know that, thanks for the info.
 
ND has the ability as a football independent to control the scheduling of 7 (not 3-4) games a year for rivalry games and national exposure (being in a conference limits that).

ND also has a stand alone, OTA contract with NBC as a football independent. "Cord cutting" does not/will not affect that.

ND has 24 of its 26 sports in the ACC. Hockey is moving from Hockey East to the Big Ten as an affiliate member for that one sport only.

ND has a separate TV contract with NBC Sports to televise all ND home hockey games. Their away games will be on BTN (which I will never see).
 
TerryD said:
ND has the ability as a football independent to control the scheduling of 7 (not 3-4) games a year for rivalry games and national exposure (being in a conference limits that).

ND also has a stand alone, OTA contract with NBC as a football independent. "Cord cutting" does not/will not affect that.

ND has 24 of its 26 sports in the ACC. Hockey is moving from Hockey East to the Big Ten as an affiliate member for that one sport only.

ND has a separate TV contract with NBC Sports to televise all ND home hockey games. Their away games will be on BTN (which I will never see).
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Love how ND ran from Hockey East because they were and never will be good enough to win that conference.
 
SubZero said:
Love how ND ran from Hockey East because they were and never will be good enough to win that conference.
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Actually, ND finished in fourth place in Hockey East, but only one point (29/28) out of first place. It all came down to the last game of the regular season vs. UMass-Lowell.

HockeyEastOnline.com - Men's Standings

ND also made it to the Frozen Four this past season.

A quick look at the 2017 men’s Frozen Four: Denver, Minnesota Duluth, Harvard and Notre Dame

I guess animus is a funny thing, it messes with facts sometimes......
 
SubZero said:
Love how ND ran from Hockey East because they were and never will be good enough to win that conference.
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I'll betcha the Big Ten invites ND in all sports and one other school within the next year or so.
 
huskyrob1 said:
I'll betcha the Big Ten invites ND in all sports and one other school within the next year or so.
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That is impossible due to the ACC GOR, exit fee and contract between ND/ACC that says if ND football joins a conference prior to 2036, it must be the ACC.

Besides that, ND doesn't want its football program in the Big Ten, for a number of reasons.
 
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TerryD said:
That is impossible due to the ACC GOR, exit fee and contract between ND/ACC that says if ND football joins a conference prior to 2036, it must be the ACC.

Besides that, ND doesn't want its football program in the Big Ten, for a number of reasons.
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Some independence, eh?

ND's 2017 Football Conference schedule:
BC, UNC, NCS, Wake, Miami.
 
TerryD said:
Plus the seven games a year no conference can dictate.
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As opposed to the 4 games most teams have?

So ND's "football independence" consists of 3 extra game dates and the NBC contract. Nothing to sneeze at.
 
TerryD said:
That is impossible due to the ACC GOR, exit fee and contract between ND/ACC that says if ND football joins a conference prior to 2036, it must be the ACC.

Besides that, ND doesn't want its football program in the Big Ten, for a number of reasons.
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Because they will get the crap kicked out of them in the Big 10.
 
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TerryD said:
Plus the seven games a year no conference can dictate.
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To be fair Terry it is 8 games that are locks on our schedule. USC,Stanford and Navy are never going away. So it is four games we have flexibilty with
BYU is independent, we're half pregnant.
 
TerryD said:
That is impossible due to the ACC GOR, exit fee and contract between ND/ACC that says if ND football joins a conference prior to 2036, it must be the ACC.

Besides that, ND doesn't want its football program in the Big Ten, for a number of reasons.
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I've explained this before...

-- Withdraw from the ACC at 1/3-ish the going exit fee (can be done for less than the general rate for paying former coaches).
-- Join your conference of choice.
 
SubZero said:
Love how ND ran from Hockey East because they were and never will be good enough to win that conference.
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ND's record vs. Hockey East teams while in the league was 56-36-13, with winning records vs. 9 of the 11 HE members. (The record vs. teams outside of Lowell, MA was 53-27-11.) As I recall, they beat the Hockey East champion en route to the FF this year. There was no geographic fit for ND in HE and obviously by last year the Big 10 changed its tune about affiliate membership for ND.
 
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TerryD said:
Actually, ND finished in fourth place in Hockey East, but only one point (29/28) out of first place. It all came down to the last game of the regular season vs. UMass-Lowell.

HockeyEastOnline.com - Men's Standings

ND also made it to the Frozen Four this past season.

A quick look at the 2017 men’s Frozen Four: Denver, Minnesota Duluth, Harvard and Notre Dame

I guess animus is a funny thing, it messes with facts sometimes.
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So you were the second loser in Hockey East and one of the top 2 to 4 losers in the NCAA. Not impressed.
 
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