Recruiting Transfers - March

[NowInStorrs]

One issue regarding this whole compensation of players thing is that most of the players are being fairly compensated through tuition and other means. The ones who could make quite a bit more are in a small minority. Do you think division 3 schools or smaller division 1 schools should be paying players beyond the tuition and other incentives that they provide? If so, is that for both men and women's basketball? Olympic sports too? It seems to me that the G League is actually a somewhat appropriate alternative for those players who are good enough that they'd rather be professional players out of high school rather than college athletes. I think both of those tracks can co-exist. Also, I'd be in favor of players profiting off their likeness. That's not worth a whole lot for most players but for some that's huge.

But it seems that we're going off topic here. Who's entering the transfer portal?

 

[UofCT]

Sure. But look at the portal now. You think the top older guys won’t jump ship to win titles when they make it easier to do so?

Good point

 

[Huskymagic]

So we have some people who believe that the students are already fairly compensated.

Others oppose compensating players on the basis that it will destroy the system.

So if you believe the latter, is it that you believe that there is an amount of exploitation that we just have to accept in order to still be able to have college basketball? You agree that they're being exploited to some degree but having college basketball in its current format is worth their sacrifice?

Before attempting to sound smart and pontificating from a false moral high ground, understand the repercussions of what you are saying.

You cannot commodify relations and teach children to treat every interaction as an opportunity to make money off someone. When you do that, people/society will treat them like adults in every way and they will be dehumanized. They can wait for that when they are adults out of school.

You realize you live in a capitalist country and society. Without inequality and exploitation capitalism cannot exist. Without it, how would rich people get rich. You yourself unless you are retired or independently wealthy are exploited everyday, but naively think you are free.

PS: Student athletes get hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of good/resources. They get paid directly with a full scholarship already plus unlimited food, gym, trainers, vip facilities, tutors, and the opportunity to play in front of thousands/millions in the best gyms in the country, and travel the country. This allows them an opportunity to showcase their talents and make money when leaving school on top of getting a degree if they so choose. That kind of experience is unquantifiable. 99% of people never get this opportunity.


PS: The exploited ones are regular college students not college athletes.

 

[the Q]

You're in the former category, not the latter, aren't you?

So you don't believe there's exploitation to discuss and my question wasn't directed to you.

Are you ok with 2 sports paying for what is essentially a lot of dead weight?

Because something has to give.

 

[Huskymagic]

So your answer is "yes"? That's all we needed.

The only exploited students in college are your everyday Joe and Jane.

D1 college athletes are not at all. These false crocodile tears for the plight of the 1% student athletes is a slap in the face to the real struggling students who have to take out massive loans and actually go to school to study.

PS: Unlike many, I am actually a real idealist not a false peddler of nonsense about the struggles of Cade Cunnigham and Evan Mobley, and how hard they have it in school. This is entitlement.

 

[metsfan2323]

This is easy,

College sports are amateur sports and always will be, if a player wants to get paid just play pro sports (Lamelo Ball), problem solved. Oh you aren't good enough to get paid by a pro team? Tough, join the club, very few people are good enough to play pro sports.

 

[How Sway?!]

Before attempting to sound smart and pontificating from a false moral high ground, understand the repercussions of what you are saying.

You cannot commodify relations and teach children to treat every interaction as an opportunity to make money off someone. When you do that, people/society will treat them like adults in every way and they will be dehumanized. They can wait for that when they are adults out of school.

You realize you live in a capitalist country and society. Without inequality and exploitation capitalism cannot exist. Without it, how would rich people get rich. You yourself unless you are retired or independently wealthy are exploited everyday, but naively think you are free.

PS: Student athletes get hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of good/resources. They get paid directly with a full scholarship already plus unlimited food, gym, trainers, vip facilities, tutors, and the opportunity to play in front of thousands/millions in the best gyms in the country, and travel the country. This allows them an opportunity to showcase their talents and make money when leaving school on top of getting a degree if they so choose. That kind of experience is unquantifiable. 99% of people never get this opportunity.


PS: The exploited ones are regular college students not college athletes.

Actually, the current college athletics system is more socialist than capitalist. The top 2 or 3 sports generate the lions share of the revenue, which is then redistributed to non revenue sports. In a capitalistic system, all the money would stay in the revenue generating sports and the non revenue sports would cease to exist.

 

[HooperScooper]

Wow, this thread went off the rails.

So what other transfers are there UConn should look at? ?

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I’m tire of people claiming they aren’t compensated at all.

It’s factually false.

it’s as tiring as hearing that the “parks and facilities management” major RB who is just being kept eligible to play in his bowl game is getting a free education and he should be grateful for it.

 

[metsfan2323]

it’s as tiring as hearing that the “parks and facilities management” major RB who is just being kept eligible to play in his bowl game is getting a free education and he should be grateful for it.

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UCONN football just had a former player named superintendent of the Stratford school system. Many take advantage of the education and some don't.

 

[husky429]

FWIW... I don't really like the transfer rule for high-major football basketball. But for every women's sport, and every other men's sport, the kids really are "student-athletes" first. That's why I agree with the free transfer rule despite this chaos.

If I wanted to go play ball closer to home after my sophomore year as a crappy D2 player that was never, ever going to sniff professional basketball, I should have had the option without having to sit a year.

 

[husky429]

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UCONN football just had a former player named superintendent of the Stratford schools. Many take advantage of the education and some don't.

I didn't realize he had moved on from Windsor HS. Good for him. Smart guy and really good with people and as a motivator... though he always seemed like he didn't really have much experience with kids and was kind of more interested in power/prestige than being an educator. He'll probably do well as a superintendent for that reason.

 

[Leebo]

Wow, this thread went off the rails.

So what other transfers are there UConn should look at? ?

You're right, that's always annoying. I'll delete my posts from the compensation discussion.

 

[superjohn]

NIL seems like the logical step here. I’m not sure why that would “destroy college basketball” if players are allowed to profit off of themselves. I’m for upping the stipend as well, but we’re not talking about schools paying salaries to players, at least I’m not. It doesn’t really change things that much, these top teams are already getting the “top talent” how is that changing things really?

At the end of the day, I’m much more about what’s best for the players. I find it odd that we want to restrict their access to NIL and their ability to play right after their transfer. Allow them to make their own decisions, if they want to transfer, let them. It’s their life, the whole obsession of restricting these athletes is really strange.

If you were referring to me saying "destroying basketball" that's in terms of paying players salaries. I think most reasonable people can agree on NIL and stipend as workable solutions.

I don't think the obsession is with restricting athletes it's with free agency not being a practical/sustainable model for college sports.

 

[Minicoop69]

CLOSE THE THREAD and open one that actually deals with transfers!!!

 

[mauconnfan]

Wow, this thread went off the rails.

So what other transfers are there UConn should look at? ?

No crap Scoop. Would like to hear who the staff is focusing on and reaching out to. But instead let’s talk about who’s getting paid? Lol....

 

[Hungryhusky99]

Kimani followed Locke on twitter ??

 

[auror]

Kimani followed Locke on twitter ??

So we know staff is at least aware of Locke and Gurley.

 

[ToolzieFan]

So we know staff is at least aware of Locke and Gurley.

I worry that if this thread gets too cluttered, then the staff is going to miss out on potential transfers. At least they’re on those two.

 

[husky429]

Locke would be a perfect fit. He's everything we wanted Adams to be and I think he's a target we could land since we probably have some connections with Maryland where he's from, and he isn't so good he's going to UK/Duke etc.

Dynamite shooter off the catch or in transition. Elite. One of the best in the NCAA. That's why you recruit him.

Okay straight line driver. Not a great rebounder or passer. Okay as a back up ballhandler. Though he isn't a shot creator, since we have Andre as a point-forward we can probably get away with a 2 who can't handle as well next year.

Park him in the corner and run him and Hawkins off as many screens as you can set--that's our offense.

 

[Chief00]

Completely understood. We are going to need all the help we can get from the free throw line next year. We need players like CV who can help ice the game from the line. That is just one area on offense that I think hurt us this year.

If CV was on this year’s team, we would still be dancing.

 

[Fatroony5]

If you were referring to me saying "destroying basketball" that's in terms of paying players salaries. I think most reasonable people can agree on NIL and stipend as workable solutions.

I don't think the obsession is with restricting athletes it's with free agency not being a practical/sustainable model for college sports.

Wasn’t towards you, its just a common theme people talk about when allowing players to earn additional income.

With the new transfer rule just being established, it’ll take a little time to work itself out. I’m just of the mindset of allowing players to do what they feel is best without making them sit out. They’re young, often immature, things change etc. Sometimes players just need a change of scenery, so I’m cool with allowing players to make a move if they feel necessary.

 

[blackuc]

I live in Florida and watch all Gator games. He is a great stand still shooter who will make the open 3. He cannot create his own shot and is a below average ball handler.

 

[rollskies]

If CV was on this year’s team, we would still be dancing.

110% agree. There were so many moments this year I wish we still had him.

 

[Storrs South]

I live in Florida and watch all Gator games. He is a great stand still shooter who will make the open 3. He cannot create his own shot and is a below average ball handler.

How is he on defense? Thats generally how Hurley determines PT.