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idk if messed up is the right word. sanogo's rating also fell when he reclassed, that's just how it works. so like i said, jabari would be the highest rated.
Messed up is the right word. You can just look at the 247 composite ranking history and see he was 31 when he committed to us. Then one ranking service took him out of the rankings all together because he was technically in college, and another moved him a class earlier, so it got messed up.
 
Good comparison, seems like a change of scenery will do him well. Not a ton of guys that young in the transfer portal with his type of upside (in terms of being such a high rated recruit). Would love to add a talent like him if possible, his timeline would fit in well with the younger guys on the roster too. Will be keeping an eye on where he ends up and how he plays next season. Seems like he could emerge as a good player.

edit: I’ll also add Jaylen Blakes, top 100 kid from Blair as well. He hasn’t committed yet. UConn was on him for a bit, combo guard. He’s a bit undersized but go watch his film, kid has serious 3 point range and is pretty explosive, seems like a dog. If adding another ‘21 recruit is on the table, might not be a bad get.
Didn’t Blakes commit to Pitt?
 
You may be thinking of Nate Santos? I didn’t see Blakes commit yet, could be wrong

Blakes has not committed. There doesn't appear to be any real indication where he's leaning. My understanding is that he's waiting to find a situation where he could get early PT. I'm not sure we can offer him what he wants, but he'd be a nice guy to add.
 


Nice package deal for Jankovich.

Twin brother grad transfers with very different styles. Marcus (6'5 215) plays a mini-post game, reminds me a lot of Carson Williams out of WKU, just a thick and more-athletic-than-he-looks force inside. 15.7p, 7.3r with an occasional three, but almost all of his work is inside.

I've haven't seen Michael (6'3 175) play, but he was kicked out of Oklahoma State for stealing a wallet at a bar, but sounds like he turned things around at Texas Southern, a program where coach Johnny Jones is known as being a mentor and father figure for a lot of the talented, but "immature" players entering the program as transfers. Weathers averaged 16.5p, 4.5r, 3.5a, 2.1s, 1b in 31.2 mpg. Only 20% of his shots are from deep so based on his 52.4 fg% rate and 5.3 fta/gm, I picture him as an athletic two-way basket attacker who is smart about his shot selection.

Between Kendric Davis (19.0p, 7.6a, 37.3 3p%), Feron Hunt (11.1p, 7.9r), Emmanuel Bandoumel (10.2p, 36.4 3p%), the Weathers bros, Sam Houston State's Sam Nutall (19.3p, 5.7, 37.2 3p%) and Oklahoma State transfer Yor Anei (6.6p, 2.2b) Jankovich brings in a very impressive septet of seniors entering the 21-22.

An interesting futures bet for the AAC crown next season.
 
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Messed up is the right word. You can just look at the 247 composite ranking history and see he was 31 when he committed to us. Then one ranking service took him out of the rankings all together because he was technically in college, and another moved him a class earlier, so it got messed up.
It was totally messed up, never seen an drop like that and I've followed recruiting for years. It's all silly, the one service (believe it was rivals) just stopped ranking him altogether which gave the false low ranking.
 
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Messed up is the right word. You can just look at the 247 composite ranking history and see he was 31 when he committed to us. Then one ranking service took him out of the rankings all together because he was technically in college, and another moved him a class earlier, so it got messed up.

It was totally messed up, never seen an drop like that and I've followed recruiting for years. It's all silly, the one service (believe it was rivals) just stopped ranking him altogether which gave the false low ranking.
agree to disagree. i know 92 isnt right but when a player reclassifies he always drops that's how it works. look at sanogo he fell 40 spots.

so if the sites had all done it properly they would have moved akok into 2018 and he would have fallen into the 50s at least, which would have been lower than jabari and diggins and hawkins.

so either way i look at it- his current ranking of 92 or better yet where he probably should have ended up in the ~50s, he isnt hurley's highest rated recruit
 
agree to disagree. i know 92 isnt right but when a player reclassifies he always drops that's how it works. look at sanogo he fell 40 spots.

so if the sites had all done it properly they would have moved akok into 2018 and he would have fallen into the 50s at least, which would have been lower than jabari and diggins and hawkins.
It's all because the one site wen't from ranking him where the other sites had him to not ranking him at all. His 247 ranking never changed at all, he stayed ranked as the #5 power forward and #22 player overall.
 
It's all because the one site wen't from ranking him where the other sites had him to not ranking him at all. His 247 ranking never changed at all, he stayed ranked as the #5 power forward and #22 player overall.
i understand what happened but i still consider hawk and digg (or jabari) to be higher rated because the services should have moved akok into 2018 where he would have dropped at least 20 spots. didnt he have to reclassify in order to enroll early and subsequently redshirt? he must have reclassed because he's listed as a redshirt sophomore.

so either way i look at it- his current ranking of 92 or where he should have ended up in the ~50s for 2018, he isnt hurley's highest rated recruit when all said and done
 
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i understand what happened but i still consider hawk and digg (or jabari) to be higher rated because the services should have moved akok into 2018 where he would have dropped at least 20 spots. didnt he have to reclassify in order to enroll early and subsequently redshirt? he must have reclassed because he's listed as a redshirt sophomore.

so either way i look at it- his current ranking of 92 or better yet where he probably should have ended up in the ~50s for 2018, he isnt hurley's highest rated recruit imo
I disagree with you, the drop is all because one service didn't do their job and stopped ranking him.
 
agree to disagree. i know 92 isnt right but when a player reclassifies he always drops that's how it works. look at sanogo he fell 40 spots.

so if the sites had all done it properly they would have moved akok into 2018 and he would have fallen into the 50s at least, which would have been lower than jabari and diggins and hawkins.

so either way i look at it- his current ranking of 92 or better yet where he probably should have ended up in the ~50s, he isnt hurley's highest rated recruit
He didn’t reclassify. Why would services put him in 2018 when he didn’t start playing in college until 2019? There’s a reason Rivals removed him from the rankings altogether while reranking Sanogo in his new class.

You have given me some good laughs though. Andre Drummond is currently the 84th ranked recruit in his class on 247 based upon how his recruitment went down, so I guess we’ve just had tons and tons of higher ranked recruits than Andre Drummond.
 
It was totally messed up, never seen an drop like that and I've followed recruiting for years. It's all silly, the one service (believe it was rivals) just stopped ranking him altogether which gave the false low ranking.
Eh, it was a weird situation. How often do guys leave high school mid year to go to college, but not actually reclassify to play earlier, just pay their own way at the school so they can practice? I get services not knowing how to handle it.

I just like to mention it because people seem to forget he’s easily the highest ranked recruit on our team.

We got really unlucky with this roster. In an ideal world, if we’re trying to replicate the recent Villanova model, Bouknight and Akok are supposed to be the junior year studs that anchor a really good team, with all the other pieces falling in around them. Instead, one guy was so talented that he won’t be on the team, and the other had a terrible injury so we have no idea what we’ll get from him. Ugh.
 
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He didn’t reclassify. Why would services put him in 2018 when he didn’t start playing in college until 2019? There’s a reason Rivals removed him from the rankings altogether while reranking Sanogo in his new class.

You have given me some good laughs though. Andre Drummond is currently the 84th ranked recruit in his class on 247 based upon how his recruitment went down, so I guess we’ve just had tons and tons of higher ranked recruits than Andre Drummond.
laugh it up. akok was listed as a redshirt sophomore on the official roster this season whereas bouk and gaff were listed as sophomores. that means akok had to reclassify in order to enroll midyear and subsequently redshirt. he has now played the past two seasons meaning he's a rising redshirt junior.
 
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laugh it up. akok was listed as a redshirt sophomore on the official roster this season whereas bouk and gaff were listed as sophomores. that means akok had to reclassify in order to enroll midyear and subsequently redshirt. he has now played the past two seasons meaning he's a rising redshirt junior.
Yeah I’m sure for enrollment purposes that‘s how it had to work, but I’m talking a normal reclassification. Akok played multiple months of high school basketball while the 2018 college season was being played, so they’re not going to put him in the 2018 rankings.

Again, there is a reason he was taken out of the rankings all together while someone like Sanogo got reranked. Their situations are not the same.
 
Scouring the transfer portal, an interesting case popped up.

Former UNLV coach, and newly hired Iowa State coach TJ Otzelberger, brought in UNLV transfer Caleb Grill.

While it's completely normal for coaches to bring in transfers from their previous schools, Grill was originally a recruit by former Iowa State coach Steve Prohm.

So in three years, Grill has gone from a Prohm coached Iowa State, to an Otzelberger coached UNLV and back to Iowa State, now coached by Otzelberger.

Very interesting. Cyclones fans must be thinking "just like you, we love this school but hated Prohm...glad to see you back where you belong!"

Anyone know of this happening before?
 
Not sure if we were ever connected to Kyler Edwards of Texas Tech but seems like we should be interested now. He has decided to stay in the portal rather than return to Tech.
 
Scouring the transfer portal, an interesting case popped up.

Former UNLV coach, and newly hired Iowa State coach TJ Otzelberger, brought in UNLV transfer Caleb Grill.

While it's completely normal for coaches to bring in transfers from their previous schools, Grill was originally a recruit by former Iowa State coach Steve Prohm.

So in three years, Grill has gone from a Prohm coached Iowa State, to an Otzelberger coached UNLV and back to Iowa State, now coached by Otzelberger.

Very interesting. Cyclones fans must be thinking "just like you, we love this school but hated Prohm...glad to see you back where you belong!"

Anyone know of this happening before?

IIRC, Grill was originally committed to play for Otzelberger at South Dakota State before he took the UNLV job and that’s how he landed at Iowa State in the first place.
 
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I assumed he'd go to Texas to follow Beard, but yes we should be interested. He's the 2nd best guard available by my hun
I assumed he'd go to Texas to follow Beard, but yes we should be interested. He's the 2nd best guard available by my hunting list.
Mac McClung (TT) deciding whether to stay or enter portal with Beard gone
 
Can’t go after mcclung anyway because he was at Georgetown. Doesn’t matter that he was at another school in between. I believe @navery12 provided the info
 
Can’t go after mcclung anyway because he was at Georgetown. Doesn’t matter that he was at another school in between. I believe @navery12 provided the info
Wasn't suggesting potential interest-- His style seems as a ball dominant kind of PG/CG so he wouldn't fit with our roster if even doable.

Comment was made as a general observation of TT players
 
Idk if he would leave, but every blue blood should throw their best offers at Oats first. That dude understands modern basketball.
I think he is an up and comer for sure however what’s on his resume up to this point? Doesn’t he have more to prove before he’s one of the best coaches in college basketball? Genuine question because many people share the sentiment.
 
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I think he is an up and comer for sure however what’s on his resume up to this point? Doesn’t he have more to prove before he’s one of the best coaches in college basketball? Genuine question because many people share the sentiment.

Oats has gotten huge results very quickly at two stops now. I thought he was a fantastic hire for Alabama when they snagged him, and if a blue blood doesn't grab him soon, he'll have Bama rolling too much to ever leave. UNC should have hired him, no question in my mind. I'm not sure what Zona's financial situation is, but he would absolutely be my first call.
 
This doesn't sound right.
I may be misinterpreting the rule, but that's how it reads to me. The indirect transfer in the top sentence and point 2 in the special notes

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Can’t go after mcclung anyway because he was at Georgetown. Doesn’t matter that he was at another school in between. I believe @navery12 provided the info
Is there a loophole because we weren't a big east school when McClung played at Georgetown?
 
Oats has gotten huge results very quickly at two stops now. I thought he was a fantastic hire for Alabama when they snagged him, and if a blue blood doesn't grab him soon, he'll have Bama rolling too much to ever leave. UNC should have hired him, no question in my mind. I'm not sure what Zona's financial situation is, but he would absolutely be my first call.
Oats isn't going anywhere. Bama is happy with the results and they just happen to be flush with money. Of course this is just an opinion that I am offering up.
 
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