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That deck is interesting.. as first it shows that Boise spends much less than it's projected peers in the AAC, meaning success would likely be harder to come by. More importantly it didn't just so revenue largely flat with the MWC distribution they get now, they showed a slight loss (even before accounting for the three departing members and a reduction in TV revenue).
 
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shizzle787 said:
If it goes to 12, within a decade it will be 16.
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Isn’t the plan to break P5 football away from the NCAA
If they set up their own governing body . Than I suspect they can completely control the playoffs without pressure from the NCAA .It can be 4 to all inclusive.
More importantly they get to keep all the revenue for themselves. I suspect G5 and Indies not named ND will be excluded.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
Isn’t the plan to break P5 football away from the NCAA
If they set up their own governing body . Than I suspect they can completely control the playoffs without pressure from the NCAA .It can be 4 to all inclusive.
More importantly they get to keep all the revenue for themselves. I suspect G5 and Indies not named ND will be excluded.
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they will do this for basketball too and there is a ton of cash available for the taking
 
AZHuskiePop said:
Isn’t the plan to break P5 football away from the NCAA
If they set up their own governing body . Than I suspect they can completely control the playoffs without pressure from the NCAA .It can be 4 to all inclusive.
More importantly they get to keep all the revenue for themselves. I suspect G5 and Indies not named ND will be excluded.
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They have already "broken away" for football.

The 4 team CFP is a deal made directly with the P5. There is no involvement with the NCAA and the NCAA receives no money from it. The P5 receives the majority of the money after sharing a few crumbs with the G5.
 
bobbyinaz said:
They have already "broken away" for football.

The 4 team CFP is a deal made directly with the P5. There is no involvement with the NCAA and the NCAA receives no money from it. The P5 receives the majority of the money after sharing a few crumbs with the G5.
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Please provide a source.
Here is mine:

The following is a breakdown of the CFP revenue distribution:
  • For the 2021-22 academic year:
    1. Each conference will receive $300,000 for each of its schools when the school's football team meets the NCAA's APR for participation in a postseason football game. Each independent institution will also receive $300,000 when its football team meets that standard.
    2. A conference will receive $6 million for each team that is selected for a Playoff Semifinal. There will be no additional distribution to conferences whose teams qualify for the national championship game. A conference will receive $4 million for each team that plays in a non-playoff bowl under the arrangement.
    3. Each conference whose team participates in a Playoff Semifinal, Cotton, Fiesta, or Peach bowls, or in the national championship game will receive $2.63 million to cover expenses for each game.
  • Based on calculations from the 2020-21 season the following distributions were made in the spring of 2021 (Estimates for the 2021-22 season will be finalized following the 2022 CFP National Championship.):
    1. Each of the 10 conferences received a base amount. For conferences that have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose, or Sugar bowls, the base combined with the full academic performance pool was approximately $57 million for each conference. The five conferences that do not have contacts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar bowls received approximately $83 million in aggregate (full academic pool plus base). The conferences distribute these funds as they choose. Notre Dame received a payment of $2.5 million by meeting the APR standard; the other three independents shared $1.85 million.
    2. Certain conferences in the Football Championship Subdivision received approximately $2.85 million in aggregate.
 
CAtlantic said:
apnews.com

Column: 8 won't be enough for the College Football Playoff

When it comes to College Football Playoff expansion, the odds are stacked against eight ever being enough.
apnews.com apnews.com
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As the article states, here's the dilemma. The SEC wants to rule the world and likes the current 4-at-large format. For an 8 team playoff, the other 4 conferences want the 5 conference champions plus 3-at-larges. I guess that the SEC thinks they can have all 4-at-larges some year.
 
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@AZHuskiePop

My point is they've already broken from the NCAA.

The NCAA doesn't receive any of the CFP playoff money and the championship being played for is not an NCAA championship.

Yes the P5 skim some money off the top to share w the G5 and others but the lions share stays w them.
 
Some interesting perspective when it comes to realignment. I've always thought that while football drives the AD bus, it's still a cog in the wheel of a university (sorry for the mixed but related metaphors)....

 
CAtlantic said:
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They are pumping this out because they know the realignment waive is over and they need to keep their viewership numbers high. It's not happening. The Big 12 will be 12 for a while.
 
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This SHOULD kill any crazy rumor about Marshall staying in the C-USA.

theathletic.com

Conference USA in negotiations with New Mexico State, Liberty, UConn: Source

The potential additions come as C-USA is down to six current members. Six C-USA schools are set to join the American Athletic Conference in the coming years and two more are set to join the Sun Belt, with Marshall potentially leaving C-USA to join the Sun Belt as well.
theathletic.com theathletic.com

Also, a very good map using Google Trends detailing college football searches from a poster named jhn31 at another message board.

 
CAtlantic said:
This SHOULD kill any crazy rumor about Marshall staying in the C-USA.

theathletic.com

Conference USA in negotiations with New Mexico State, Liberty, UConn: Source

The potential additions come as C-USA is down to six current members. Six C-USA schools are set to join the American Athletic Conference in the coming years and two more are set to join the Sun Belt, with Marshall potentially leaving C-USA to join the Sun Belt as well.
theathletic.com theathletic.com

Also, a very good map using Google Trends detailing college football searches from a poster named jhn31 at another message board.

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You missed the main point of the article- we are in discussions with C-USA as a football-only member.
 
upstater said:
AAC must have regrets about the way it treated UConn. Thank god the AAC treated UConn badly.
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What regrets? Not having UConn as a football only member? Yea that sunk the conference.
 
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bendm said:
his point is they would gladly take UConn now over the likes of the po-dunk no-name schools they were just forced to add
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Not without the basketball team. The football team is worthless.
 
Hondo 77 said:
Not without the basketball team. The football team is worthless.
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we werent a football only member and he didnt say theyd want us as one.

youre tilting at windmills.
 
It’s hard to know how some of the smaller moves could change history. If AAC had allowed UConn football-only and had added Nova as football-only and JMU as a full member, then there would not have been a need to dilute with 6 CUSA schools after the B12 raid.

Temple would have a reasonable footprint with UConn, Nova, and JMU. With this latest round the old footprint has left Temple, and instead of them being central they are an outlier.
 
Villanova might have been looked at back then as not really yet viable for FBS football competition...other than three wins against Temple..Nova is 1-19 against FBS...with that lone win coming against a 1-11 Rutgers.
 
billybud said:
Villanova might have been looked at back then as not really yet viable for FBS football competition...other than three wins against Temple..Nova is 1-19 against FBS...with that lone win coming against a 1-11 Rutgers.
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Nova football is right where they belong. Small private school which can facilitate basketball at a high level but not FBS.
 
Zissou said:
It’s hard to know how some of the smaller moves could change history. If AAC had allowed UConn football-only and had added Nova as football-only and JMU as a full member, then there would not have been a need to dilute with 6 CUSA schools after the B12 raid.

Temple would have a reasonable footprint with UConn, Nova, and JMU. With this latest round the old footprint has left Temple, and instead of them being central they are an outlier.
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if we are going to what if, one of mine is what if Villanova had upgraded their football when given in the chance in the old Big East? in all likelihood, the “C6“ doesn’t break off oh and the big east stays together in some format. I wouldn’t expect them to make P5 money, but I do suspect their media contract would be significantly more than the American.
 
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