Re: Megan Walker's Twitter Page

[Orangutan]

SkyDigg's brand exists because she is pretty (and the rapper du jour noticed and tweeted about it in 2012) and not a super accomplished women's basketball player.

Women's college basketball is more popular and visible than women's pro basketball and Skylar was a 2x 1st team All-American and made 3 Final Fours. She was a VERY accomplished collegiate player.

 

[Orangutan]

Maybe you are right about twitter and if that is your standard ok. I was talking about brand as a basketball player.

Don't get me wrong. I think she was an excellent player. But she did not leave college with the accolades of the others -- National Player of the Year? National Championships? Olympic teams? One might argue that if she went to UConn (and lost her attitude) she would be in a conversation with Sue, Diana, Tina, Maya and Stewie, because she would likely have a better calling card. Right now, as a basketball player leaving her mark on the NCAA she is not in the same sentence as those players.

Yes, those players had greater achievements as college players.

I assume the root of this discussion is Walker's statement "I would study business, to learn how to further build my brand (MKW)." Given the references to studying business and "MKW" (her intials and her t-shirt logo), I assume she is talking about her brand from a business/marketing standpoint. Hence why I brought up EDD and Skylar as examples of players with strong brands that didn't go to UConn.

Of course, with the exposure and success of UConn WBB, it's arguable that their brands would be even more successful if they had been Huskies. It's an interesting counterfactual to ponder.

 

[HoopsFan21]

Maybe you are right about twitter and if that is your standard ok. I was talking about brand as a basketball player.

Don't get me wrong. I think she was an excellent player. But she did not leave college with the accolades of the others -- National Player of the Year? National Championships? Olympic teams? One might argue that if she went to UConn (and lost her attitude) she would be in a conversation with Sue, Diana, Tina, Maya and Stewie, because she would likely have a better calling card. Right now, as a basketball player leaving her mark on the NCAA she is not in the same sentence as those players.

Diggins wasn't even as accomplished as Hartley and Dolson who both had 2x WBCA AA, 4 , and 2 national titles.

 

[Orangutan]

Diggins wasn't even as accomplished as Hartley and Dolson who both had 2x WBCA AA, 3 , and 2 national titles.

Diggins was a 3x WBCA AA. Hartley and Dolson were each only 1x 2nd team AP All-Americans. Diggins is clearly more accomplished as an individual, though she obviously doesn't have the NCs.

 

[BroadwayVa]

my first thought was, is she a Diamond DeShields type?...me first...i have not seen her play at all but have seen Christyn Williams play and she would be my focus...after that i am really anxious to see what Bent and Irwin and Dangerfield bring to the table...Geno and CD are the constant in 11 national championships...i think that some way the staff will find a way to stay competitive in the years to come with or without Walker...Uconn recruits do commit early usually

Here is the thing --neither you nor I live in her neighborhood--most likely you and I don't speak that way--it's called BRAVADO--
If Geno and Christine think that the kid will be a Uconn team player--All the BS/ BRAVADO means nothing--she'll be a UConn kid.
IF Geno and Christine think as you seem to think --Walker is all about ME and no team player--Geno will give her a flower and kiss her on both cheeks. In terms of FOCUS--Geno, Christine, Shea and Marisa --are like Patton--they drive until they take the target--or select a bigger better one.
It was only APRIL when some lamented---Uconn/Geno has not Bigs of top talent for next year and beyond--then Gifts floated in and the picture changed.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Diggins was a 3x WBCA AA. Hartley and Dolson were each only 1x 2nd team AP All-Americans. Diggins is clearly more accomplished as an individual, though she obviously doesn't have the NCs.

Big O---Diggins is /was one hell of a BB player--If that is her accomplishment--I agree. It took me some time to confess she was that good--after all she WAS ND!!

 

[CocoHusky]

Maybe you are right about twitter and if that is your standard ok. I was talking about brand as a basketball player.
Don't get me wrong. I think she was an excellent player. But she did not leave college with the accolades of the others -- National Player of the Year? National Championships? Olympic teams? One might argue that if she went to UConn (and lost her attitude) she would be in a conversation with Sue, Diana, Tina, Maya and Stewie, because she would likely have a better calling card. Right now, as a basketball player leaving her mark on the NCAA she is not in the same sentence as those players.

The attitude is always part of the package. Stewie might not know what an "attitude" is but Sue, Diana, Tina, Maya knew before, during and after their time at UCONN. DT without an attitude is probably only as good as Jessika Taurasi-her sister. To say Skylar is not in the same conversation as "Sue, Diana, Tina, Maya and Stewie" is really not accurate and depends on the subject of the conversation. For example, if your talking USA basketball National team, when healthy, Skylar was one of the last cuts for last USA WC team. Sylar's in contention for next WC and Olympic teams if she doesn't make it it will not be because she chose to go to ND instead of UCONN-unless you want to bye into that orange tin foil always Anti-Geno nonsense.

 

[HoopsFan21]

Diggins was a 3x WBCA AA. Hartley and Dolson were each only 1x 2nd team AP All-Americans. Diggins is clearly more accomplished as an individual, though she obviously doesn't have the NCs.

I was going by this site: Past Teams - NCAA Division I. Dolson in 2013 and 2014, and Hartley in 2012 and 2014.

 

[Orangutan]

I was going by this site: Past Teams - NCAA Division I. Dolson in 2013 and 2014, and Hartley in 2012 and 2014.

Right. Sorry, I realize now my last post may have been confusing since I went from talking about WBCA to AP. Here's the comparison I was trying to make:

WBCA All-American teams - Diggins (3x), Hartley & Dolson (2x)

AP All-American teams - Diggins 1st team 2x, Hartley & Dolson 2nd team 1x

 

[mkwstar23]

Here is the thing --neither you nor I live in her neighborhood--most likely you and I don't speak that way--it's called BRAVADO--
If Geno and Christine think that the kid will be a Uconn team player--All the BS/ BRAVADO means nothing--she'll be a UConn kid.
IF Geno and Christine think as you seem to think --Walker is all about ME and no team player--Geno will give her a flower and kiss her on both cheeks. In terms of FOCUS--Geno, Christine, Shea and Marisa --are like Patton--they drive until they take the target--or select a bigger better one.
It was only APRIL when some lamented---Uconn/Geno has not Bigs of top talent for next year and beyond--then Gifts floated in and the picture changed.

well they did not get Cox (Baylor) or Wilson (South Carolina) or Turner (Notre Dame) and they recruited them very hard...nobody gets everyone they want

 

[Charliebball]

well they did not get Cox (Baylor) or Wilson (South Carolina) or Turner (Notre Dame) and they recruited them very hard...nobody gets everyone they want

On this board the vast majority of members believe that there is no better place to spend four years growing as a student and a basketball player then UConn.............unfortunately the players you mentioned never asked for our advice.......................

 

[mkwstar23]

On this board the vast majority of members believe that there is no better place to spend four years growing as a student and a basketball player then UConn...unfortunately the players you mentioned never asked for our advice........

i have no idea why a great player would want to go to school anywhere else...however it does take a special player to play in Storrs...just my thoughts

 

[j66kicker]

SkyDigg's brand exists because she is pretty (and the rapper du jour noticed and tweeted about it in 2012) and not a super accomplished women's basketball player.

The Anna Kournikova of WBB?

 

[HoopsFan21]

The Anna Kournikova of WBB?

I don't know about that, too early in her career to say that, but my point was she has a steadily growing brand while players that have accomplished at least as much in basketball, and perhaps more depending on your perspective, don't. Why is that? What makes her so special? The bottom line is a lot of it is driven by her looks. That's what really got the ball rolling for her... when a rapper was watching a game, noticed her, and tweeted about how good looking she was, and the rest is history.

 

[BroadwayVa]

well they did not get Cox (Baylor) or Wilson (South Carolina) or Turner (Notre Dame) and they recruited them very hard...nobody gets everyone they want

I've said that many times--Geno has been charged with not being able to recruit in the past--every kid does not want Uconn--Uconn does not every kid they recruit--It's like a courtship--each measures up the other--get infatuated for some time--and then in some cases the romance fades into dust--hopefully without recriminations!! Geno still got the best of the best or made the very good into the best of the best--that does not happen everywhere!!

 

[BroadwayVa]

I don't know about that, too early in her career to say that, but my point was she has a steadily growing brand while players that have accomplished at least as much in basketball, and perhaps more depending on your perspective, don't. Why is that? What makes her so special? The bottom line is a lot of it is driven by her looks. That's what really got the ball rolling for her... when a rapper was watching a game, noticed her, and tweeted about how good looking she was, and the rest is history.

Really smart people take what they have and make the most of it--if that requires some PR--they do it. Some people aren't as smart and believe what they see or are told. --Packaging is important to sell a product (and if you are selling--you are the product)

 

[BroadwayVa]

On this board the vast majority of members believe that there is no better place to spend four years growing as a student and a basketball player then UConn...unfortunately the players you mentioned never asked for our advice........

If they had asked for that advice--something in them said--go to Baylor, USC, anywhere other than UConn --as often repeated--Uconn or Geno isn't for everyone.

 

[BroadwayVa]

The attitude is always part of the package. Stewie might not know what an "attitude" is but Sue, Diana, Tina, Maya knew before, during and after their time at UCONN. DT without an attitude is probably only as good as Jessika Taurasi-her sister. To say Skylar is not in the same conversation as "Sue, Diana, Tina, Maya and Stewie" is really not accurate and depends on the subject of the conversation. For example, if your talking USA basketball National team, when healthy, Skylar was one of the last cuts for last USA WC team. Sylar's in contention for next WC and Olympic teams if she doesn't make it it will not be because she chose to go to ND instead of UCONN-unless you want to bye into that orange tin foil always Anti-Geno nonsense.

Its called ultra ego--does not fly well with opposing fans--DT strutted all around Tn pulled out the UCONN on her shirt, taunted the Duke Crazies--Sue, Tina, Maya, Stewie did it with their game. Stewie after her Frosh year --got it--the IT was confidence i.e. really high belief in her self and ability--give Geno credit for that. He blew smoke at her--she believes every shot she takes will go in (pure Geno)--confidence builder.
Skylar came to ND believing in herself--everyone around her enforced that belief--after wins ( I loved DT doing it but when Skylar did it--she was just a fresh over ego kid from ND. Strutting her stuff.
The crap about Geno being biased --I can't believe is true--look at the Olympic team--loads of Orange, Baylor, LSU, EDD Griner--
and yes lots of UConn and he made it work--and every player on that team had nice words for GENO--

 

[JudgeSCR]

The attitude is always part of the package. Stewie might not know what an "attitude" is but Sue, Diana, Tina, Maya knew before, during and after their time at UCONN. DT without an attitude is probably only as good as Jessika Taurasi-her sister. To say Skylar is not in the same conversation as "Sue, Diana, Tina, Maya and Stewie" is really not accurate and depends on the subject of the conversation. For example, if your talking USA basketball National team, when healthy, Skylar was one of the last cuts for last USA WC team. Sylar's in contention for next WC and Olympic teams if she doesn't make it it will not be because she chose to go to ND instead of UCONN-unless you want to bye into that orange tin foil always Anti-Geno nonsense.

I never said that Diggins was not in the same conversation (depending on the conversation).
What I said is that Diggins was an EXCELLENT player, but when you consider accomplishments including Player of the Year, National Championships and the Olympics she is not in that SENTENCE with Diana, Maya, Stewie etc.
Conversation? Maybe. Sentence? Definitely not.

 

[Wally East]

Ann Strother didn't decide until November when she signed her letter of intent.

 

[Paesano]

Ann Strother didn't decide until November when she signed her letter of intent.

That was forever ago. For that time period, November was early. Are we at the end of September yet?

 

[Wally East]

That was forever ago. For that time period, November was early. Are we at the end of September yet?

More recent than Shea Ralph

 

[mkwstar23]

did someone actually suggest that Skylar Diggins is in the same category with Bird and Tarausi and Moore and Charles and Stewart as a college player?...if so in what way may i ask...just curious...maybe i misunderstood the post

 

[Charlie]

Who? Back to MW, who has posted onto her twitter sight a voting poll for ND, T and UConn. She's enjoying this too much as far as I'm concerned.

this is the post by the person that posted the poll

 

[CocoHusky]

did someone actually suggest that Skylar Diggins is in the same category with Bird and Tarausi and Moore and Charles and Stewart as a college player?...if so in what way may i ask...just curious...maybe i misunderstood the post

Mostly we were splitting hairs about "conversations" vs "sentence". But... if you want to compare apples to apples (PG to PG) (Skylar vs. Sue) and INDIVIDUAL statistics my opening statements are:

• Skylar scored almost 1000 more points than Sue in college.
• Skylar had more assist than Sue did in college.
• Skylar had more steals than Sue did in college.
• Skylar had more rebounds than Sue did in college.
• Skylar won the Lieberman award twice, Sue won it once.

What say ye?

 

[Orangutan]

did someone actually suggest that Skylar Diggins is in the same category with Bird and Tarausi and Moore and Charles and Stewart as a college player?...if so in what way may i ask...just curious...maybe i misunderstood the post

No - I responded to this quote "No one had a better "brand" then Lobo, Sue, Diana, Tina, Maya or Stewie at the end of their college careers." by saying that I think Skylar did. Not that she was on the same level as a player but from a marketability/popularity standpoint her brand may have been better.

 

[huskyblooz]

Mostly we were splitting hairs about "conversations" vs "sentence". But... if you want to compare apples to apples (PG to PG) (Skylar vs. Sue) and INDIVIDUAL statistics my opening statements are:

• Skylar scored almost 1000 more points than Sue in college.
• Skylar had more assist than Sue did in college.
• Skylar had more steals than Sue did in college.
• Skylar had more rebounds than Sue did in college.
• Skylar won the Lieberman award twice, Sue won it once.

What say ye?

Ye says statistics, schmatistics. Point guards are graded on making teammates better and making teams win.

 

[mkwstar23]

No - I responded to this quote "No one had a better "brand" then Lobo, Sue, Diana, Tina, Maya or Stewie at the end of their college careers." by saying that I think Skylar did. Not that she was on the same level as a player but from a marketability/popularity standpoint her brand my have been better.

why i asked...i think that for someone with no National Championships and no WNBA championships and no Olympic experience that she is the most well marketed player in women's basketball...she is a very good player and very pretty and that sells in America...wish her health and long career...if she does not get to a better team or Wings get some help i think that she will hear the Kournikova thing again

 

[mkwstar23]

Mostly we were splitting hairs about "conversations" vs "sentence". But... if you want to compare apples to apples (PG to PG) (Skylar vs. Sue) and INDIVIDUAL statistics my opening statements are:

• Skylar scored almost 1000 more points than Sue in college.
• Skylar had more assist than Sue did in college.
• Skylar had more steals than Sue did in college.
• Skylar had more rebounds than Sue did in college.
• Skylar won the Lieberman award twice, Sue won it once.

What say ye?

i say that those stats are true but Sue has twice as many Championships as Diggins and THAT is the measure of a point guard not stats...not to be hateful it is just a fact...just my opinion

 

[Orangutan]

why i asked...i think that for someone with no National Championships and no WNBA championships and no Olympic experience that she is the most well marketed player in women's basketball...she is a very good player and very pretty and that sells in America...wish her health and long career...if she does not get to a better team or Wings get some help i think that she will hear the Kournikova thing again

She was playing very well (Most Improved Player and 1st team All-WNBA in '14) before her knee injury in early '15. She was not the same this year. This year specifically she was just a very famous average player. I hope she can get back to her pre-injury form.