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The original Instagram post is riddled with misspellings and reads like a piece of internet propaganda. Regardless of the issues it refers to it seems outlandish that anyone could take it seriously.
 
So between this and his role in the KO controversy, is it safe to say we're cancelling Ray now?
 
Have there been any incidents of police brutality or overuse of power at UConn? If not, then idk what the big deal is. Like UConn said they aren’t spending that much on this much needed form of security anyways when looked at in the grand scheme of things.
 
That being said, they really need to reinstate the mental health care stuff. No guidance for kids is horrible, and the presence of guidance could have prevented the few incidents in the past year.
 
If UConn tried to replace cops with social workers, the social workers would get laughed in their face whenever they had to interact with a college student. Absolutely no one would respect them if they had no ability to actually get you in trouble with the law lmao
 
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Thank god this isn’t a post about a certain former ex-coach.

Granted, I haven’t read all of the replies, so I don’t know what you turkeys might’ve turned this thread into.
 
aburks41 said:
If UConn tried to replace cops with social workers, the social workers would get laughed in their face whenever they had to interact with a college student. Absolutely no one would respect them if they had no ability to actually get you in trouble with the law lmao
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Yeah that's not the idea but go off
 
navery12 said:
Yeah that's not the idea but go off
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The sentiment is correct though that there's no viable replacement for law enforcement on college campuses. A lot of college kids of course want less police on campus but once you get to a certain age you start to understand the necessity.
 
glastonbury50 said:
The sentiment is correct though that there's no viable replacement for law enforcement on college campuses. A lot of college kids of course want less police on campus but once you get to a certain age you start to understand the necessity.
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But it's not and he's being intentionally dishonest with his claims. Nobody is asking mental health professionals to go confront people when they're committing a crime. The idea is letting police confront crimes and letting psychiatrists deal with mental health issues, rehabs deal with drug issues, etc.
 
Ray also fails to note that that the revenue loss to the University by the shutdown due to the Corona virus is the catalyst for the cuts in sports. The University has been dealing with cuts in support from the state for over a decade. He points the finger at the wrong place. The ability of the University to survive as a top public University has been due to tuition increases and program underwriting by donors who believe in the mission. It is not a failure in UConn’s leadership as much as it is the state’s leadership. That being said the worst decisions of the last 25 years were hiring Jeff Hathaway as athletic director, followed by hiring Ward Manuel as athletic director. Those decisions led to the destruction of the football program by Paul Pascaloni and Bob Diaco. The down turn in men’s basketball via Kevin Ollie. The revenue loss caused by those decisions would have been enough to save these other programs. Dave Benedict has shown courage and competence and is righting the ship.

Those calling for less police are calling for more crime in my mind and should understand that and accept responsibility for it when the inevitable happens.
 
TRUCONN76 said:
Those decisions led to the destruction of the football program by Paul Pascaloni and Bob Diaco. The down turn in men’s basketball via Kevin Ollie. The revenue loss caused by those decisions would have been enough to save these other programs. Dave Benedict has shown courage and competence and is righting the ship.
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Ollie was Calhoun's handpicked successor, no AD was going to shut that down. Agree with the rest though.
 
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TRUCONN76 said:
Ray also fails to note that that the revenue loss to the University by the shutdown due to the Corona virus is the catalyst for the cuts in sports. The University has been dealing with cuts in support from the state for over a decade. He points the finger at the wrong place. The ability of the University to survive as a top public University has been due to tuition increases and program underwriting by donors who believe in the mission. It is not a failure in UConn’s leadership as much as it is the state’s leadership. That being said the worst decisions of the last 25 years were hiring Jeff Hathaway as athletic director, followed by hiring Ward Manuel as athletic director. Those decisions led to the destruction of the football program by Paul Pascaloni and Bob Diaco. The down turn in men’s basketball via Kevin Ollie. The revenue loss caused by those decisions would have been enough to save these other programs. Dave Benedict has shown courage and competence and is righting the ship.

Those calling for less police are calling for more crime in my mind and should understand that and accept responsibility for it when the inevitable happens.
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Curious because I can only assume you are a graduate or at least care about UConm as a whole. Why does cutting funding to UConn police department mean a death sentence but when we cut funding to education we still expect the same standards applied?
 
beerfan said:
Wow, at first I didn't believe this but did some quick googling. I found some 2011 articles that showed the Uconn Police Chief made 250K+, while his second in command makes 211K+ (just imagine what the pension cost will be) while the NYC Police Commissioner made 226K+ in 2018. Perhaps some of these bloated salaries are part of the problem
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The pensions are an even bigger problem. Completely out of control.
 
navery12 said:
Curious because I can only assume you are a graduate or at least care about UConm as a whole. Why does cutting funding to UConn police department mean a death sentence but when we cut funding to education we still expect the same standards applied?
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I am a graduate and have worked for years bringing private funding to the University in the limited ways that I can. I never said that cutting the police is a death sentence. I said that it will lead to more crime. You can’t have it both ways. When you cut funding to education, opportunities for some will be lost. If you cut too much the reputation of the institution will be lost resulting in long term damage that is difficult to undue. If you cut police crime will increase, if you cut too much crime will become the story and the damage to the reputation of the institution will also occur. UConn has been fortunate with a low incident of violent crime. I want that to continue.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
Yeah, it was a significantly tone deaf comment by Ray in the #metoo era. Parents want to know their children are safe while away at campus and spending money on security guards is going to help keep their children more safe than reducing security guard salary and providing a rowing or cross country scholarship.
Safety on campus is much more than just roving patrols but it's a big consideration for many parents when deciding where to send their little Suzy off to college.
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Yeah it’s soooo scary out there. If you have a problem with being scared on a college campus maybe you should examine where our country is and why.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Yeah, it was a significantly tone deaf comment by Ray in the #metoo era. Parents want to know their children are safe while away at campus and spending money on security guards is going to help keep their children more safe than reducing security guard salary and providing a rowing or cross country scholarship.
Safety on campus is much more than just roving patrols but it's a big consideration for many parents when deciding where to send their little Suzy off to college.
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Perhaps underlying what Ray is suggesting and what many black UConn students are stating on IG is less cops the better, particularly if they're being persistently harassed.

Same frustrating comments about cops and blacks no matter where you go in this country, no matter what campus, city, state, whatever. Its persistent, its tiring, it has to stop. So, whatever it takes it has to stop. Less funding, shifting funding, retraining. Reshaping hearts and minds, whatever. And Suzy is fine. She will always be fine.
 
From a factual standpoint, what Ray said was incorrect. The University came out and specifically denounced this notion. I feel like it doesn't really need to be read into more than that.
 
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Rico444 said:
That's interesting, do you have a link to the poll?
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Nope, it was weeks ago. I posted it at the time it came out.
 
Fishy said:
If you’re looking to cut costs on a college campus, security is about the 23,473rd place you should look.
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Agree. If the police budget is 0.5% of the total - cutting the standard amount of fat any state agency maintains, is not going to meaningfully impact the overall University cut needed.
Now that Ray has opened the door by his public criticisms, Chief will bring up an issue I usually don’t bring up, since I consider it a private matter. Maybe Ray can donate money to help those teams?
Maybe Ray can convince his friend KO, to drop his $10M lawsuit against the university? That would open the door up.
 
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navery12 said:
It's amazing how many people can't read, or just choose not to. He didn't say UConn should have no police, he said they shouldn't be adding 20 new positions while they're making cuts elsewhere
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Look at the first sentence in the post above yours. Some people cannot write with well either.
 
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