Ray Allen with some strong words on UConn..

[Salty Dog]

Pretty passionate instagram post coming from Ray.

 

[Ajs120102]

Ray does love UConn and the situation is upsetting. I know most will be defensive of the school but in this case we can’t. UConn has police officers at all the regional campuses. That’s a waste of money. They could all be eliminated. There is a lot that needs to change at UConn. Although cutting sports was inevitable even if we eliminated the entire police department.

 

[huskymedic]

This came after the OP post referenced by RA from a timing perspective:

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

I take classes on the Hartford campus and they have a couple SUVs patrolling the block and a half campus where the HPD also patrol. It’s pathetic.

 

[navery12]

I take classes on the Hartford campus and they have a couple SUVs patrolling the block and a half campus where the HPD also patrol. It’s pathetic.

I live in Stamford about 5 minutes from the campus and it's the same way. There's probably 5-10 UConn Police cars that are parked on the one road and the entire campus is a block long

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

I live in Stamford about 5 minutes from the campus and it's the same way. There's probably 5-10 UConn Police cars that are parked on the one road and the entire campus is a block long

Think about salary and benefits and equipment etc for let’s say a total of ten officers at these sites. That’s probably a million dollars right there. Don’t need to pay $60,000 salaries to these people when you can probably pay a security guard half of that.

 

[methodology]

I take classes on the Hartford campus and they have a couple SUVs patrolling the block and a half campus where the HPD also patrol. It’s pathetic.

I think they are required to do that for liability and insurance issues. If a student were to get assaulted in any way and there are no officers or enforcement they would be open to a huge lawsuit

 

[Chin Diesel]

I think they are required to do that for liability and insurance issues. If a student were to get assaulted in any way and there are no officers or enforcement they would be open to a huge lawsuit

Yeah, it was a significantly tone deaf comment by Ray in the #metoo era. Parents want to know their children are safe while away at campus and spending money on security guards is going to help keep their children more safe than reducing security guard salary and providing a rowing or cross country scholarship.
Safety on campus is much more than just roving patrols but it's a big consideration for many parents when deciding where to send their little Suzy off to college.

 

[StllH8L8ner]

I live in Stamford about 5 minutes from the campus and it's the same way. There's probably 5-10 UConn Police cars that are parked on the one road and the entire campus is a block long

I go to the bookstore there to pick up gear for family Christmas gifts and have noticed the amount of police cars seemed a little excessive based on the size of the building.

 

[Devland]

Good luck getting unions to agree to any reduction.

 

[CTBasketball]

Good luck getting unions to agree to any reduction.

Yea that’s the big reason right here.

 

[Jaker]

Yeah, it was a significantly tone deaf comment by Ray in the #metoo era. Parents want to know their children are safe while away at campus and spending money on security guards is going to help keep their children more safe than reducing security guard salary and providing a rowing or cross country scholarship.
Safety on campus is much more than just roving patrols but it's a big consideration for many parents when deciding where to send their little Suzy off to college.

You are spot on with this.

 

[Phoenixhusky]

I agree tone deaf by Ray. Campus security is a huge issue and really important to students and their parents.

 

[Phoenixhusky]

To clarify, who would cover campus policing if the campus police departments disbanded? The local municipality or the state police? So shouldn’t students pay directly for their own policing service through tuition then having local taxpayers foot the bill?

 

[JimHurley]

Yeah, it was a significantly tone deaf comment by Ray in the #metoo era. Parents want to know their children are safe while away at campus and spending money on security guards is going to help keep their children more safe than reducing security guard salary and providing a rowing or cross country scholarship.
Safety on campus is much more than just roving patrols but it's a big consideration for many parents when deciding where to send their little Suzy off to college.

This. It’s an ignorant post. My heart breaks for the kids but to imply that scholarships for cross country, rowing, tennis, and swimming are more important than having a safe campus is ridiculous.

 

[Palatine]

The absolute first responsibility of the university or any institution is the safety of the people in their care.

 

[UconnFanDC]

Ok well donations from strong alumni like Ray and other financially set athletes and business owner can help. I'm sure the police budget compared to the programs cut doesn't compare in cost.

For me this is not about the police as I see other programs are eliminating some of their sport programs as well to save money. Plus Uconn carried more programs then most other colleges including those in P5.

 

[JimHurley]

To clarify, who would cover campus policing if the campus police departments disbanded? The local municipality or the state police? So shouldn’t students pay directly for their own policing service through tuition then having local taxpayers foot the bill?

To some whack jobs, no police is their goal. Yes, in my opinion students should foot the bill through tuition/fees to fund the safety of the campus they are getting their education on. Safety is the top priority.

 

[navery12]

It's amazing how many people can't read, or just choose not to. He didn't say UConn should have no police, he said they shouldn't be adding 20 new positions while they're making cuts elsewhere

 

[huskymedic]

It's amazing how many people can't read, or just choose not to. He didn't say UConn should have no police, he said they shouldn't be adding 20 new positions while they're making cuts elsewhere

... and the University responded they aren’t. (Ray was also commenting on someone else’s IG post)

 

[Fishy]

If you’re looking to cut costs on a college campus, security is about the 23,473rd place you should look.

 

[navery12]

... and the University responded they aren’t. (Ray was also commenting on someone else’s IG post)

Yeah I saw that a few days ago but couldn't remember where (before you posted it in here again)

 

[UConn_Top_Dog]

Figured I would put my two cents in...

 

[JimHurley]

It's amazing how many people can't read, or just choose not to. He didn't say UConn should have no police, he said they shouldn't be adding 20 new positions while they're making cuts elsewhere

His whole post talks about his displeasure of UConn hiring 20 additional police officers (which is factually incorrect) while making cuts elsewhere. The UConn police responded by saying that is not true and they are actually looking to make cuts. So Ray's entire post is out of ignorance on the actual issue. He took a false idea and ran with it. The idea that UConn is cutting sports while hiring more police is plain false.

 

[navery12]

His whole post talks about his displeasure of UConn hiring 20 additional police officers (which is factually incorrect) while making cuts elsewhere. The UConn police responded by saying that is not true and they are actually looking to make cuts. So Ray's entire post is out of ignorance on the actual issue. He took a false idea and ran with it. The idea that UConn is cutting sports while hiring more police is plain false.

Absolutely, but you and others created some false narrative that Ray was saying sports are more important than campus safety and ran with it

 

[JimHurley]

... and the University responded they aren’t. (Ray was also commenting on someone else’s IG post)

Exactly, so Ray's entire post is based on a lie. I love the dude to death and will aways appreciate what he brought to this program/university but this is just a dumb post.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Absolutely, but you and others created some false narrative that Ray was saying sports are more important than campus safety and ran with it

Obviously you other misread or didn't read Ray's response. He directly compared campus security officer employment to athletic scholarships. Regardless of how/why you didn't know what Ray wrote, there wasn't a false narrative.

Ray was the one who wrote "What does this say to our students? We would rather hire more police than give all our athletes a platform to grow."

 

[willie99]

Exactly, so Ray's entire post is based on a lie. I love the dude to death and will aways appreciate what he brought to this program/university but this is just a dumb post.

The world in 2020, it's bizarre

I can think of a million ways Ray can help the University, this isn't one of them

 

[JimHurley]

Absolutely, but you and others created some false narrative that Ray was saying sports are more important than campus safety and ran with it

Allow me to clarify. Ray says cuts to the UConn PD are essential but then expresses his displeasure with cutting any sports. To me this is just crazy. A safe and secure campus is perhaps THE most important thing and resources should be allocated to ensuring that over sports that lose the university money. I didn't think this would make me sound crazy, but I think funding a police department that ensures the safety of our students is more important than rowing/swimming/tennis/cross country scholarships.

 

[navery12]

Obviously you other misread or didn't read Ray's response. He directly compared campus security officer employment to athletic scholarships. Regardless of how/why you didn't know what Ray wrote, there wasn't a false narrative.

Ray was the one who wrote "What does this say to our students? We would rather hire more police than give all our athletes a platform to grow."

Re-read your quote from Ray. We would rather hire *MORE* police. The fact that you think the solution to issues with safety on campus is just throw more police out and not address the actual issues is telling