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husky429 said:
Ray isn't going to have a fan base to remember him with anything but malice if this keeps up..maybe Miami.
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Meh, Ray could take a dump on the center court logo at Gampel and he'll still be beloved by most. Deservedly so.
 
DefCONNOne said:
Oh good. Now he's got another story to regale people with, whether they want to hear it or not. This and the "Why I left Boston for Miami" story. Whether you want to hear them or not, Ray Allen will tell you.
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I think Ray is a good guy but a strange guy. That Celtics team was filled with really strange guys.
 
DefCONNOne said:
What must be it? Have you heard Ray Allen since he left Boston in 2012? That man will never shut up about how Boston did him dirty. 7 years on and he's still boo-boo faced about it. This KO thing is another story I don't want to hear, but will have to because I need to show Ray Allen respect...or something.
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In fairness to Ray, Garnett acts like a 15 year old girl.
 
Slick said:
the only thing that is important is the NCAA finished their review ,accepted Uconn self imposed sanctions and we have no NCAA Tourney probation. Kevin is in bad shape which is sad but his own doing.
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UConn pleading guilty to NCAA violations in an attempt to get out of paying Ollie $10 million is not the decisive evidence most think it is. Judges aren't all idiots.
 
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CL82 said:
So you'd pay $11M to avoid PR messiness of discharging an employee? Things have to get awfully messy before they are worth more than $11M.

FWIW, once the NCAA gave Ollie a 3 year show cause penalty, this was over. In the end there would be far more PR messiness in paying him.
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Pudge must be a union rep.
 
superjohn said:
In fairness to Ray, Garnett acts like a 15 year old girl.
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Thinks is true, but outside of UConn fans and teammates (i assume) there’s not a lot of love for Ray with past teammates or fans.

Garnett is a punk, but ray has on more than one occasion be called out as aloof and all about Ray. That is ok, but he’s not going to get the benefit off the doubt about character (edit - character isn't the right word here, but the proper word escapes me at the moment) issues.

Personally - he’s a great, great player, but one that never pulled me in like Caron, Rip, Taliek, Kemba, Emeka - kind of odd as I think about it now.

This is why you don’t bring in alumni as coaches - messy divorces with a lot of collateral damage. Worst thing JC ever did to the program - forcing the KO hire. Even JC isnt perfect.
 
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husky429 said:
Ray isn't going to have a fan base to remember him with anything but malice if this keeps up..maybe Miami. Celtics fans outside of CT are ambivalent at best.

I hope it ends as quickly as possible, as painlessly as possible for UConn and Ray.
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Yep, this is a two way street. Bad on UConn, but bad on Ray as well. Being an all time great doesn't grant total immunity.
 
UConn Dan said:
Please make this go away... don't use Ray Allen as a pawn in this whole deal.

www.ctpost.com

Ray Allen seeking protective order against UConn

When Ray Allen voiced his displeasure last month with the way both he and Kevin Ollie...
www.ctpost.com www.ctpost.com
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As a lawyer, I find this funny.

The headline makes it sound like he took out a restraining order forcing UConn to stand 500 feet away from him.

I agree it's not a good look to embroil Ray in this, but this is just typical non-party motion practice. "Oppressive, unreasonable, burdensome and out of compliance with both the (Connecticut) Practice Book and Florida law" is boilerplate. I have literally never responded to discovery requests without calling multiple requests unreasonable and burdensome. Sometimes vexatious and harassing, when I'm feeling ornery.

The Courant article on this is less sensational.
 
Northbound said:
This is why you don’t bring in alumni as coaches - messy divorces with a lot of collateral damage. Worst thing JC ever did to the program - forcing the KO hire. Even JC isnt perfect.
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Can’t agree with this when, you know, we won the championship with KO! Say what you will about players, luck etc, bottom line is he led us to #4 and can pretty much guarantee would not have happened without him. Everything was set up for long term success until life happened, hard to predict
 
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Northbound said:
Thinks is true, but outside of UConn fans and teammates (i assume) there’s not a lot of love for Ray with past teammates or fans.

Garnett is a punk, but ray has on more than one occasion be called out as aloof and all about Ray. That is ok, but he’s not going to get the benefit off the doubt about character (edit - character isn't the right word here, but the proper word escapes me at the moment) issues.

Personally - he’s a great, great player, but one that never pulled me in like Caron, Rip, Taliek, Kemba, Emeka - kind of odd as I think about it now.

This is why you don’t bring in alumni as coaches - messy divorces with a lot of collateral damage. Worst thing JC ever did to the program - forcing the KO hire. Even JC isnt perfect.
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No JC is not perfect and Ray is among many UCONN players who probably think that KO is not being paid for losing more than anything else. As much as they love Calhoun they could probably refer to phone calls and other things done in his era that just went by the boards and yes they resent that their teammate and brother is being treated this way. Not saying KO is not wrong in what he did though, it’s just their perspective.
 
UConn Dan said:
Ray is our greatest alum ambassador. Let's try and not taint that relationship in the KO debacle.
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Is he? I mean he’s most accomplished on the court. But as said above, most people are soured on him, rightly or otherwise, for leaving Boston for Miami. Between that and his personality/demeanor, I’ll take Kemba every time as an ambassador for my alma mater
 
What I can't stand is someone who unnecessarily inserts himself into the drama only to play the innocent bystander. That's some Real Housewives BS.

Bye Felicia.
 
For me Ray will always be beloved. The line runs Chris Smith to Scott Burrell to Donyell Marshall to Ray Allen. And so on. They all need to get past this, then later mend fences, regain the trust.

Hurley can do this once it’s all over.
 
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nomar said:
As a lawyer, I find this funny.

The headline makes it sound like he took out a restraining order forcing UConn to stand 500 feet away from him.

I agree it's not a good look to embroil Ray in this, but this is just typical non-party motion practice. "Oppressive, unreasonable, burdensome and out of compliance with both the (Connecticut) Practice Book and Florida law" is boilerplate. I have literally never responded to discovery requests without calling multiple requests unreasonable and burdensome. Sometimes vexatious and harassing, when I'm feeling ornery.

The Courant article on this is less sensational.
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Yep agree 100% and I also never encountered a discovery request not deserving of an objection for being too broad, too burdensome, etc. There are not too many of us who would voluntarily agree to have strangers go through our cell phone history for texts, emails, etc., our right to privacy is an important constitutionally created privilege not to be easily surrendered.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
UConn pleading guilty to NCAA violations in an attempt to get out of paying Ollie $10 million is not the decisive evidence most think it is. Judges aren't all idiots.
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Makes no sense. KO broke the rules big time. Uconn is being punished and he is out of college coaching for 3 years.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Is he? I mean he’s most accomplished on the court. But as said above, most people are soured on him, rightly or otherwise, for leaving Boston for Miami. Between that and his personality/demeanor, I’ll take Kemba every time as an ambassador for my alma mater
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No most people have NOT soured on him. I spent a bunch of happy hours playing pool against him when we were in school. He’s quiet and reserved, an introvert. Nothing wrong w being reserved, especially in this day and age of every big mouth opinion getting headlines. He was always nice but very structured, no alcohol and would leave at 8 no matter what. I beat him every time, but he won the long game.
 
Ray absolutely enjoyed a drink now and then. I bought him a few. He slowly sipped them. He was also much more outgoing after UConn and before he let life get too serious as an adult. He was pretty lively socially in the late 90’s, but never too crazy. Kids, health and business became his passion later. He wasn’t going to party all night with Pierce and KG in his 20’s let alone his 30’s.
 
fatlucy said:
No most people have NOT soured on him. I spent a bunch of happy hours playing pool against him when we were in school. He’s quiet and reserved, an introvert. Nothing wrong w being reserved, especially in this day and age of every big mouth opinion getting headlines. He was always nice but very structured, no alcohol and would leave at 8 no matter what. I beat him every time, but he won the long game.
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I’m not talking about UConn fans. I’m talking about everyone who isn’t a UConn fan, given we are talking about Ray as an ambassador for the program.
 
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Pudge said:
Pay the man.

I can't say that enough. The "not a dime" crew don't get the PR messiness of this.
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No, don't pay him as he "Ollie" lied to the school and doesn't deserve $10 million or anything close. If I was UConn I would offer $2 million with a take it or leave it. UConn isn't flush with cash right now, so anything more is nor should it happen
 
Rocktheworld said:
Is he? I mean he’s most accomplished on the court. But as said above, most people are soured on him, rightly or otherwise, for leaving Boston for Miami. Between that and his personality/demeanor, I’ll take Kemba every time as an ambassador for my alma mater
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Most people have soured on him ? Am in the fl luck king twilight zone with this bull ish ?

Ray Allen is a mother f luck king UConn legend boi

But don’t take it from me. Take it from one hall of famer about another one

Allen will be the first former UConn men’s basketball player inducted.
“It’s very special,” Jim Calhoun, a Hall of Famer himself, told Hearst Connecticut Media on Saturday. “He is, if not the face, one of the faces of the program. Obviously, Kemba (Walker) is phenomenal, too. Donyell (Marshall) was our first All-American, and Ray’s our first male Hall of Fame player.”
 
UConn Dan said:
Most people have soured on him ? Am in the fl luck king twilight zone with this bull ish ?

Ray Allen is a mother f luck king UConn legend boi

But don’t take it from me. Take it from one hall of famer about another one

Allen will be the first former UConn men’s basketball player inducted.
“It’s very special,” Jim Calhoun, a Hall of Famer himself, told Hearst Connecticut Media on Saturday. “He is, if not the face, one of the faces of the program. Obviously, Kemba (Walker) is phenomenal, too. Donyell (Marshall) was our first All-American, and Ray’s our first male Hall of Fame player.”
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You totally misinterpreted my post.

When you’re talking about who the UConn ambassador is, you’re not talking about what UConn fans think. Many basketball watchers look at him kinda sideways for leaving Boston for Miami to ride along with LeBron. That’s a very popular narrative.

Kemba is universally loved and respected, and has an awesome personality. Not to mention, a generation younger than Ray.
 
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