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Rahsool Diggins transferring (merged threads)

navery12 said:
There's a whole group of people on this board who just really wish basketball was still in 1995
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When everyone was saying JC couldn't win the big one?
 
BGesus4 said:
Yeah this is an idiotic take. Every coach in America recruits players that at the very least are not cut out to get minutes as a freshman, even [insert coach’s name you think would be doing a better job with the program than Hurley].
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Who’s the point guard next year, champ?

I’m sure Diggins was recruited with the idea that he would get no minutes as a freshman and transfer out after the season.

So, again, who’s the point guard next year?
 
Fishy said:
Who’s the point guard next year, champ?

I’m sure Diggins was recruited with the idea that he would get no minutes as a freshman and transfer out after the season.

So, again, who’s the point guard next year?
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We don't know yet, he simply needs to bring in a stud point guard and he needs to bring in someone who can handle like a point and score off the bounce. If he doesn't do these things it be rough next season and most of the fanbase will be calling for his head.
 
Fishy said:
Who’s the point guard next year, champ?

I’m sure Diggins was recruited with the idea that he would get no minutes as a freshman and transfer out after the season.

So, again, who’s the point guard next year?
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We can go with Jackson, Hawkins, Floyd, Samson Johnson, and Sanogo and be fine but Dan Hurley will be in a transfer PG and a CG CHAMP.
 
Fishy said:
Other coaches recruited freshmen who could play in the Big East…and then played them in the Big East.
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The only teams who actually did this were Creighton (impressive) and Marquette (they just fired their coach, we did the same thing in Hurley's first few years).

The rest of the Big East All Freshman team was the kid at Georgetown (who cares) and our guy.

Nova and Providence did not play their freshman at all. Neither does UNC, Kansas, Houston...I could go on and on.

And to your question on "who is next year's point guard?"....obviously it's going to be a transfer, probably a guy that nobody on this board even knows is transferring. And transfers are good enough for all of the teams I listed above, so they are also good enough for UConn.

Your idea of great roster management made sense 10 years ago. Almost nobody else is actually doing what you think we should be doing.
 
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Fishy said:
Who’s the point guard next year, champ?

I’m sure Diggins was recruited with the idea that he would get no minutes as a freshman and transfer out after the season.

So, again, who’s the point guard next year?
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He is or will be in the portal. Lots of PGs will be in the portal based on last year (>20 4* PGs were in the portal last year.)
 
UChusky916 said:
Maybe he made a quick evaluation that Gaffney would be best suited as backup PG and that it wasn't worth investing minutes in Diggins for THIS YEAR.
But you can't tell me he made the RIGHT DECISION when Diggins wasn't even given a fair chance and Gaffney turned out the way he did.
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or maybe it wasn't a quick decision at all and was actually based on seeing diggins in practice every day...

maybe the fact that diggins didnt play even with Gaff turning out the way he did says everything you need to know about how good or bad diggins really was.

only time will tell if it was the right decision so let's see how he plays next year at his new school before rendering a verdict. i hope it doesnt turn into a jahvon quinerly scenario.
 
bendm said:
or maybe it wasn't a quick decision at all and was actually based on seeing diggins in practice every day...

maybe the fact that diggins didnt play even with Gaff turning out the way he did says everything you need to know about how good or bad diggins really is.

only time will tell if it was the right decision let's see how he develops at his next school before rendering a verdict
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You can’t have it both ways.

Did Hurley make a mistake in recruiting Diggins or did he make a mistake in not playing him? Because we’re without an option at point guard right now which is a major, major problem.

This isn’t the first top-100 kid who hasn’t even made it to the end of the second semester.
 
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Fishy said:
You can’t have it both ways.

Did Hurley make a mistake in recruiting Diggins or did he make a mistake in not playing him? Because we’re without an option at point guard right now which is a major, major problem.
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the post i was replying to wasnt addressing the recruiting aspect just the decision not to play him given gaffney not being any good

call it a recruiting miss or call the kid a bust, same difference in the end.
 
Fishy said:
You can’t have it both ways.

Did Hurley make a mistake in recruiting Diggins or did he make a mistake in not playing him? Because we’re without an option at point guard right now which is a major, major problem.
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Obviously the former. He missed. Got a highly-rated kid who turned out to be not up to snuff. It happens.

It's only a major problem if we fail to get any of the several dozen point guards who are hitting the portal.
 
Fishy said:
You can’t have it both ways.

Did Hurley make a mistake in recruiting Diggins or did he make a mistake in not playing him? Because we’re without an option at point guard right now which is a major, major problem.
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Well luckily it's 2022 and we employ a coach who has chosen to live in reality and recruit transfers unlike you. So having no PG on March 28 is not a problem, if we still don't have one in November then it's a problem
 
Fishy said:
You can’t have it both ways.

Did Hurley make a mistake in recruiting Diggins or did he make a mistake in not playing him? Because we’re without an option at point guard right now which is a major, major problem.
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A major, major problem…

In two weeks there will be about 9,000 point guards on the portal. Most of them stink, but plenty of them don’t. And we can offer them oodles of playing time and a solid team around them.

We’re going to get one of them, relax.
 
Fishy said:
You can’t have it both ways.

Did Hurley make a mistake in recruiting Diggins or did he make a mistake in not playing him? Because we’re without an option at point guard right now which is a major, major problem.

This isn’t the first top-100 kid who hasn’t even made it to the end of the second semester.
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It's a major problem.

But if he missed and the kid couldn't cut it, why are you complaining that he didn't get any minutes?
 
navery12 said:
Well luckily it's 2022 and we employ a coach who has chosen to live in reality and recruit transfers unlike you. So having no PG on March 28 is not a problem, if we still don't have one in November then it's a problem
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lol.

Sure.

GD, where do we find these morons?
 
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4xChamps said:
He was more than serviceable on Teddy. I think Teddy had like 2 points in the first half when Dre picked up his 2nd foul. Dre went to bench and Teddy torched Tyrese but Dre did an admirable job I'd say.
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Martin guarded Teddy almost the whole first half. And yes, Teddy scored in all sorts of ways against near perfect defense. Andre played him just fine, the guy just made everything and when we doubled him, the guys on his team that aren't very good all hit those shots. They shot 72%. It was a freak thing.
 
Fishy said:
Counterpoint:

If the head coach recruited two top 60 recruits who were completely unprepared to play in the Big East, he is failing at his job.

Other coaches recruited freshmen who could play in the Big East…and then played them in the Big East.

What’s wrong with our guy? Either he failed to develop these kids, failed to give them an opportunity or he failed in recruiting them.

Pick one.
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Agreed.

I'm a staunch defender of Hurley. He's the guy for the foreseeable future. But that doesn't mean we can't fairly criticize his faults or errors.

Lately it feels like any criticism of Hurley ends up with downvotes. It's probably a reaction to the many posts that unfairly criticize Hurley. But objective criticism is fair game.

One way or another, Hurley messed this one up.
Either he was snakebitten by his stubborness/loyalty to Gaffney and should have played Diggins(fair to argue in retrospect)... or he failed to properly evaluate Diggins in recruiting.

Either way, he messed up somewhere, because we don't want to be in the position we're in now with literally no PGs.

And it's okay to admit he messed up. No one is perfect.

However, what's most important is how Hurley responds (short term and long term).

Long term: Will he improve at PG evaluation or outsource primary PG evaluation duties to an assistant?

Short term: He's got to find 2 BE starting caliber PGs in the portal... after ignoring transfers and preaching the UConn "family" the past year+.
Who knows, maybe he already has a quality transfer or two informally locked up and that's why Diggins is leaving... he sees the writing on the wall. If thats the case I'll gladly eat crow here.

At some point, you can be loyal to a fault, and I think that's the case here with Hurley and his player evaluations.
Let's see if he can learn from it.
 
Fishy said:
You can’t have it both ways.

Did Hurley make a mistake in recruiting Diggins or did he make a mistake in not playing him? Because we’re without an option at point guard right now which is a major, major problem.

This isn’t the first top-100 kid who hasn’t even made it to the end of the second semester.
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We were without an option at PG with Diggins on the roster. What don't you get? Hurely offered a top 100 kid who didnt develop and showed the staff he couldn't handle high major basketball. It happens. The best thing for Diggins and for the program is to acknowledge this early and both move on. Its not even April yet. Luckily we have a staff who can recruit with the best of them. This announcement today is far from dire.
 
UChusky916 said:
Agreed.

I'm a staunch defender of Hurley. He's the guy for the foreseeable future. But that doesn't mean we can't fairly criticize his faults or errors.

Lately it feels like any criticism of Hurley (fair or not) winds up with downvotes. It's probably a reaction to the many posts that unfairly criticize Hurley. But again, objective criticism is fair game.

One way or another, Hurley messed this one up.
Either he was snakebitten by his stubborness/loyalty to Gaffney and should have played Diggins(fair to argue in retrospect)... or he failed to properly evaluate Diggins in recruiting.

Either way, he messed up somewhere, because we don't want to be in the position we're in now with literally no PGs.

And it's okay to admit he messed up. No one is perfect.

However, what's most important is how Hurley responds (short term and long term).

Long term: Will he improve at PG evaluation or outsource primary PG evaluation duties to an assistant?

Short term: He's got to find 2 BE starting caliber PGs in the portal... after ignoring transfers and preaching the UConn "family" the past year+.

At some point, you can be loyal to a fault, and I think that's the case here with Hurley and his player evaluations.
Let's see if he can learn from it.
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The reality is that he hasn't recruited a starting caliber PG yet out of HS. It's going into year 5. We should have multiple and we have zero.
 
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UConn was one of the few teams that didn't bring anyone in or lose anyone to the portal this season. JC was a grad transfer. That is never going to happen again. UConn will have at least one player go to the portal every year as long as that rule is in place. That is the new reality. The upside of the portal for those who say Dan Hurley can't recruit PGs is that he will have the chance to recruit PGs that have played against D1 competition.
 
Fishy said:
Just not finding a way to get him minutes was such an absolute disaster.

Other schools had no issues playing freshmen who were not nearly as talented and we could not find a way to fit Diggins and Johnson in anywhere?

If you watched this team in November, you knew how they would lose in March if they did not do something to improve the offense. We did nothing and a scrub 12 seed flicked us because they had no trouble defending anything we did.
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It’s funny because after me and my buddies were shocked about how Hurley wasn’t playing diggins at all after the thxsgiving tourney not even a sniff — we said well at least he’s gonna play him during scrub time in November and December and he continued to amaze us and still didn’t play him. I mean come on you got a find some room for your freshman point guard especially with what you invested in him and how we were short in that area. There’s no justification. I don’t care how bad he is
 
djct1999 said:
We were without an option at PG with Diggins on the roster. What don't you get? Hurely offered a top 100 kid who didnt develop and showed the staff he couldn't handle high major basketball. It happens. The best thing for Diggins and for the program is to acknowledge this early and both move on. Its not even April yet. Luckily we have a staff who can recruit with the best of them. This announcement today is far from dire.
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“We have a staff who can recruit with the best of them.”

”We were without an option at PG with Diggins on the roster.”

These two sentences cannot exist in the same paragraph.
 
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