Rahsool Diggins transferring (merged threads)

[djct1999]

“We have a staff who can recruit with the best of them.”

”We were without an option at PG with Diggins on the roster.”

These two sentences cannot exist in the same paragraph.

Some how they did and we will still be ok.

 

[Fishy]

It’s funny because after me and my buddies were shocked about how Hurley wasn’t playing diggins at all after the thxsgiving tourney not even a sniff — we said well at least he’s gonna play him during scrub time in November and December and he continued to amaze us and still didn’t play him. I mean come on you got a find some room for your freshman point guard especially with what you invested in him and how we were short in that area. There’s no justification. I don’t care how bad he is

This.

 

[navery12]

It’s funny because after me and my buddies were shocked about how Hurley wasn’t playing diggins at all after the thxsgiving tourney not even a sniff — we said well at least he’s gonna play him during scrub time in November and December and he continued to amaze us and still didn’t play him. I mean come on you got a find some room for your freshman point guard especially with what you invested in him and how we were short in that area. There’s no justification. I don’t care how bad he is

So if after watching him you decide he wasn't good enough to play you should double down and play him anyway? That's the opposite of what you should do

 

[djct1999]

It’s funny because after me and my buddies were shocked about how Hurley wasn’t playing diggins at all after the thxsgiving tourney not even a sniff — we said well at least he’s gonna play him during scrub time in November and December and he continued to amaze us and still didn’t play him. I mean come on you got a find some room for your freshman point guard especially with what you invested in him and how we were short in that area. There’s no justification. I don’t care how bad he is

Until you see how bad he is and then you care.

 

[BGesus4]

Who’s the point guard next year, champ?

I’m sure Diggins was recruited with the idea that he would get no minutes as a freshman and transfer out after the season.

So, again, who’s the point guard next year?

So, you’re feeling sad about next year’s point guard situation so all other freshman other than the ones Hurley recruits are always ready to play from the jump?

Hmm…

 

[HuskyHawk]

The reality is that he hasn't recruited a starting caliber PG yet out of HS. It's going into year 5. We should have multiple and we have zero.

It's a different era now folks. This is reality for a lot of teams now. Once the idiotic Covid super-seniors are gone it may calm down slightly. But the truth on the ground is:
1. There are now 5 years of eligibility worth of players across 3 classes. Fewer roster spots for freshmen and fewer minutes, especially at power programs.
2. Anybody can leave and go play elsewhere anytime they want
3. All those good players (like Cole) who develop at small schools are going to be scooped up and take the jobs of more highly recruited kids who don't show they have got it.

KU had a top 100 4* freshman PG who played 8 minutes. Longino for Villanova, SG #55 played 9 minutes.

 

[CL82]

To be fair, his high school coach is never going to say “Hurley thought he wasn’t good enough to play at UConn”

And Hurley is a “loyal“ guy in that he’s not chasing a kid off. E.g., Richie Springs.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Who did we recruit over him?

Castle and evidently, whoever we were trying to bring in at PG as a transfer. He had no realistic chance to ever start.

 

[BGesus4]

lol.

Sure.

GD, where do we find these morons?

Can’t help but picture comic book guy from the Simpsons behind these posts

 

[8893]

Castle and evidently, whoever we were trying to bring in at PG as a transfer. He had no realistic chance to ever start.

Castle is 2023, and the OP said Diggins was recruited over, which, to me, suggests someone we already signed for 2022. I don't think we have anyone else on the line yet, but perhaps he meant we hope to recruit over him with a transfer to be named.

 

[djct1999]

Are we talking junior Gaff or freshmen Diggins? One continued to get minutes with starters and performed horribly. Same player had arguably the worst statistical year in UCONN history and had his minutes cut for a SF. The other player barely played at all from around Christmas to end of the season. Same player was put in with the B squad for a few minutes each game at the beginning of the year and is judged more harshly.

Judged more harshly? Objectively, Gaffney was real bad. Diggins was worse. The fact that Diggins couldn't supplant Gaffney should tell you everything you need to know.

 

[djct1999]

Who did we recruit over him?

Let's wait and see before we hit the panic button.

 

[Deleted at users request]

Welp. Hope a 1st round exit was worth losing our Philly connection for.

 

[JB75]

So if after watching him you decide he wasn't good enough to play you should double down and play him anyway? That's the opposite of what you should do

Saw him play where? I saw him with my own eyes in live action about 10 mins total this season. Is it really out of the realm to possibly believe that Hurley had blind loyalty to gaffney and for whatever reason thought diggins was going ride the pine as a freshman and “pay his dues” and not be miffed about it? It got so ridiculous during some of the scrub December games we actually thought diggins was hurt or had a falling out with the coach. —-again it’s simple —the way Gaffney played in mid December how could you not at least give the kid a shot? Was Hurley afraid they were gonna lose to MD - eastern shore because diggins played over gaffney? Lolol- Plus , not a good look at all. Might Hurt that Philly connection The negatives for not playing him early on faaaarrr outweigh the positives. I refuse to believe diggins would of hurt us on the court that much more than gaff did —-No excuse for not giving him early run — None.

 

[8893]

Let's wait and see before we hit the panic button.

Who's hitting the panic button? You said it was no surprise because he was recruited over, and I was simply asking who you are saying we recruited over him.

I gather now that you were saying that we hope to recruit over him, which is something quite different.

Not a cause for panic in any event. I tempered my expectations for next season long before this.

 

[BapeKidd88]

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Those posts say it all. ^^^^^

Josh Carlton made himself a lot of money this year with his performance because he bet on himself.

For better or worse of UConn MBB, Diggins is betting on himself.

 

[Tenspro2002]

The reality is that he hasn't recruited a starting caliber PG yet out of HS. It's going into year 5. We should have multiple and we have zero.

He also got 2 years out of Christian Vital (and he improved significantly) and brought in Cole as a transfer (and he improved significantly).

So, yes, he hasn't gotten a HS point guard, but he's done pretty well at the position nonetheless.

 

[Sonova]

Some top 60 recruits are overrated. Diggins was one of them.

Flush it, learn, and move on.

Maybe…but missing on a Top 60 point guard when you ABSOLUTELY need a point guard (plus guard depth) and hoping Jalen Gaffney works out is a failure that’s gonna sting for more than just a season. And I’d argue that there’s room between being overrated and not being able to get off the bench when there’s no one in front of you

 

[djct1999]

Who's hitting the panic button? You said it was no surprise because he was recruited over, and I was simply asking who you are saying we recruited over him.

I gather now that you were saying that we hope to recruit over him, which is something quite different.

Not a cause for panic in any event. I tempered my expectations for next season long before this.

Its called intuition. You can tell by the timing of the announcement and by Hurley's comments. This shouldn't be that difficult.

 

[navery12]

Saw him play where? I saw him with my own eyes in live action about 10 mins total this season. Is it really out of the realm to possibly believe that Hurley had blind loyalty to gaffney and for whatever reason thought diggins was going ride the pine as a freshman and “pay his dues” and not be miffed about it? It got so ridiculous during some of the scrub December games we actually thought diggins was hurt or had a falling out with the coach. —-again it’s simple —the way Gaffney played in mid December how could you not at least give the kid a shot? Was Hurley afraid they were gonna lose to MD - eastern shore because diggins played over gaffney? Lolol ??? Plus not a good look at all. Might Hurt that Philly connection No excuse.

Every single day for multiple hours a day in practice. But yeah I'm sure Hurley loved having 1 PG as he cut Gaffney's minutes and had to keep finding new ways to keep Cole fresh. The idea that Hurley was actively not playing the best players because he likes seniors is by far one of the more idiotic narratives constantly thrown around here

 

[HuskyHawk]

Castle is 2023, and the OP said Diggins was recruited over, which, to me, suggests someone we already signed for 2022. I don't think we have anyone elseon the line yet, but perhaps he meant we hope to recruit over him with a transfer to be named.

Sure, but he knows who Castle is. And if he's been told we are bringing in a transfer PG to start, one who probably has two years of eligibility, then he's what? The 3rd point guard as a junior and maybe the backup as a senior? Even next year he might be 3rd again. I understand how he'd read the room and make this choice.

 

[8893]

Its called intuition. You can tell by the timing of the announcement and by Hurley's comments. This shouldn't be that difficult.

It also shouldn't be that difficult to say what you meant, which you didn't.

 

[dennismenace]

Seems to me Diggins was recruited over. This did not catch the staff by surprise nor is it a real concern.

What ballhandler who can play PG was recruited over him since we seem to be loaded in the frontcourt and have the CGs (Hawkins and Floyd)?

 

[8893]

Sure, but he knows who Castle is. And if he's been told we are bringing in a transfer PG to start, one who probably has two years of eligibility, then he's what? The 3rd point guard as a junior and maybe the backup as a senior? Even next year he might be 3rd again. I understand how he'd read the room and make this choice.

Absolutely. My question was simply related to the OP's confusing use of the past tense, which made it sound like we already recruited over him, which we didn't.

 

[Hungryhusky99]

You can’t have it both ways.

Did Hurley make a mistake in recruiting Diggins or did he make a mistake in not playing him? Because we’re without an option at point guard right now which is a major, major problem.

This isn’t the first top-100 kid who hasn’t even made it to the end of the second semester.

Yeah and the other one absolutely killed it at A&M this year. You are on fire today! Keep going

 

[Hi-Low]

 

[bigknight3]

It’s funny because after me and my buddies were shocked about how Hurley wasn’t playing diggins at all after the thxsgiving tourney not even a sniff — we said well at least he’s gonna play him during scrub time in November and December and he continued to amaze us and still didn’t play him. I mean come on you got a find some room for your freshman point guard especially with what you invested in him and how we were short in that area. There’s no justification. I don’t care how bad he is

Read the provided post that highlights that there was limited scrub time.

 

[gampelcrazies]

This is just such a bad look for Hurley. We had enough talent to possibly be a Sweet Sixteen caliber team but wasted 3 scholarships on Diggins, Johnson and Springs and didn't play Akok.

 

[JB75]

Every single day for multiple hours a day in practice. But yeah I'm sure Hurley loved having 1 PG as he cut Gaffney's minutes and had to keep finding new ways to keep Cole fresh. The idea that Hurley was actively not playing the best players because he likes seniors is by far one of the more idiotic narratives constantly thrown around here

Never said Diggins was our better backup just merely saying what do u have to lose by giving him some live run. We kno what gaff can do. Sometimes kids play better in live in game situations , might boost his confidence etc. we ll never know —I’m just asking a question of why he didn’t get a sip of minutes ??? He must’ve been walk on level bad and that’s very hard to believe considering kansas Villanova Xavier all recruited him. And the kids only 18!!!!!! Gaff been here 3 years. Ok. What’s done is done. We ll see what happens. Disappointing losing him either way

 

[TyroneShoo]

Was that the case? I don't follow recruiting closely but I remember an article or tweet about how Hurley went into Villanova's backyard and stole a point guard from Wright.

well, in a way, Hurley git a recruit from Philly. So, I guess it isn’t completely off. But, neither the kid nor Wright really pursued it. He was not a priority. And for the kid, neither was Nova. Angelo Brizzi is a sturdier build..and he came in over 180 lbs and redshirted to work on his body and game.

Mikail Bridges did it and it really helped his development. so, getting a guy who buys in to the long game isn’t common. But, Bridges swears by it. So Nova has had some success getting kids to do that. Eric Dixon did it too.

Wright - says- “I’ll play when you are ready..Trust me, you don’t WANT to go out there before you are ready etc. ;and sometimes some guys on a team team are ready BUT I’m also not sitting a more efficient player just to make a kid happy”