Providence Post Game Thread

[Deepster]

Last year, it was blindingly easy to see - bad roster construction, point guard by committee didn't pan out, etc.

Honestly, this year, I think it's more like the January malaise that we had during Dan Hurley's first title. It's not the easiest system to learn and all of the moving parts have not learned their parts yet.

There's a little bit of some players being too similar rather than being complimentary and Tarris is not what Sanogo and Clingan were. (Reibe will be.) The ball tends to stick to some players in a way that it doesn't when our offense is going well and it sticks to the wrong player way too often.

I don't think we're as good as Arizona or Michigan or maybe even Duke - we were earlier in the season, but haven't moved up with 'em. I'm not worried about it - I fully expect that we're gonna get absolutely smoked in the next ten days or so and that'll be the poke to get them back on track.

I think the Yard also has a January malaise. And I think the key to our offensive success is Silas taking over the team as the alpha. When he realizes he drives the Ferrari we’ll get there.

 

[HW611]

Marcus White is infamous for the wedgie against Texas. No offense, but I think almost every UConn fan has that play burned in their brains.

You mean the NCAA tournament game he played in 22 mins as a freshman?

Most minutes outside of Taliek, Emeka, and Ben lol.

But this is your example of short leash guy Calhoun wouldn’t play?

 

[Gurleyman]

You mean the NCAA tournament game he played in 22 mins as a freshman?

Most minutes outside of Taliek, Emeka, and Ben lol.

But this is your example of short leash guy Calhoun wouldn’t play?

As you’ve already been told - Calhoun didn’t play him at all. When he got sick, George Blaney played him. Played so well that Calhoun was forced to play him too.

He’s a big reason we beat Carmelo’s Cuse team in the BET. He took that matchup.

 

[boog204]

You mean the NCAA tournament game he played in 22 mins as a freshman?

Most minutes outside of Taliek, Emeka, and Ben lol.

But this is your example of short leash guy Calhoun wouldn’t play?

Oh. My. God. Calhoun didn't play him until Blaney came in. You claimed that JC trusted his players and gave them a leash. He didn't trust White until Blaney came in. That was the freaking point 7 pages ago when you thought Marcus White was a backup SF. If you understood your own argument, you should be praising George Blaney for letting the freshmen play through his mistakes and become a really solid player.

Why is this so difficult? You just googled that game, and that is your rationale. You have no understanding of that "nuance." I just can't.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Zero chance he knows who "Blaney" is.

 

[HW611]

Oh. My. God. Calhoun didn't play him until Blaney came in. You claimed that JC trusted his players and gave them a leash. He didn't trust White until Blaney came in. That was the freaking point 7 pages ago when you thought Marcus White was a backup SF. If you understood your own argument, you should be praising George Blaney for letting the freshmen play through his mistakes and become a really solid player.

Why is this so difficult? You just googled that game, and that is your rationale. You have no understanding of that "nuance." I just can't.

No need to google stats. You can watch the game on YouTube.

And like you said it kind of adds to the point you have to let guys play sometimes and even a fringe top 80 player like Marcus White can contribute as a freshman. Let alone two top 60 recruits as juniors.

Also crazy how Emeka got pulled within a minute on a team that pretty much had no bigs outside of him.

 

[RuffRuff]

No need to google stats. You can watch the game on YouTube.

And like you said it kind of adds to the point you have to let guys play sometimes and even a fringe top 80 player like Marcus White can contribute as a freshman. Let alone two top 60 recruits as juniors.

Ah, memory lane. A 10 page argument with video on why Ross should get more minutes, unconditionally. You can't make this up. I wonder if Duke fans are spending 10 pages of posts talking about how Caleb Foster needs more run to support his NBA aspirations.It's clearly Scheyer's responsbility to get him there ready. Kid was a McD AA.

Stew has been getting minutes for 3 years, has started a ton. He's had loads of opportunities. Ross has flashes but also feels Ringling Bros half the time. Hurley sees these kids in practice every single day - he knows what they're all about.

 

[boog204]

No need to google stats. You can watch the game on YouTube.

And like you said it kind of adds to the point you have to let guys play sometimes and even a fringe top 80 player like Marcus White can contribute as a freshman. Let alone two top 60 recruits as juniors.

Yes... And those guys have to produce. White did when given the chance. He didn't need 20+ starts and 3 years to show he could be a starting PF for a team that a huge hole at the position and that could've gone to the FF and, a year later, won a natty. There was no one ahead of him, and he did a good job. I saw it live. No offense, I don't think you did so, imo your continuing to argue or question this is ridicuous. If someone on this board talks about Norman Bailey or Dom Perno, I'm quiet. I've got nothing to add.

Stew and Ross have had many opportunities to show that they could be players here. They have not done so. So, until they prove that they can in the minutes they are given, AK is going to take on more minutes because he provides so much more than what Stew and Ross have produced. It has nothing to do if plays are being run for them or not. Produce and do your job. Take the open shots. Play good D. Value the ball. Neither Stew nor Ross has done this with any consistency whatsoever. It's not difficult. And especially for juniors, the time to let them play through their mistakes is long over. They shouldn't be making those same mistakes over and over again in relatively limited minutes. And before you say "AK does it, too!" AK had 8 points, 9 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks, and one turnover in 38 minutes yesterday. He shot it poorly. He overpenetrated. And he also did a ton of great things to get us yet another win as he usually does.

 

[Fishy]

I think the Yard also has a January malaise. And I think the key to our offensive success is Silas taking over the team as the alpha. When he realizes he drives the Ferrari we’ll get there.

I think when he and Mullins decide they’re our best players and the others come to the same conclusion, we’ll be fine.

 

[HW611]

Yes... And those guys have to produce. White did when given the chance. He didn't need 20+ starts and 3 years to show he could be a starting PF for a team that a huge hole at the position and that could've gone to the FF and, a year later, won a natty. There was no one ahead of him, and he did a good job. I saw it live. No offense, I don't think you did so, imo your continuing to argue or question this is ridicuous. If someone on this board talks about Norman Bailey or Dom Perno, I'm quiet. I've got nothing to add.

Stew and Ross have had many opportunities to show that they could be players here. They have not done so. So, until they prove that they can in the minutes they are given, AK is going to take on more minutes because he provides so much more than what Stew and Ross have produced. It has nothing to do if plays are being run for them or not. Produce and do your job. Take the open shots. Play good D. Value the ball. Neither Stew nor Ross has done this with any consistency whatsoever. It's not difficult. And especially for juniors, the time to let them play through their mistakes is long over. They shouldn't be making those same mistakes over and over again in relatively limited minutes. And before you say "AK does it, too!" AK had 8 points, 9 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks, and one turnover in 38 minutes yesterday. He shot it poorly. He overpenetrated. And he also did a ton of great things to get us yet another win as he usually does.

You’re so caught up in this you’re saying White produced when he averaged 4 points a game and scored 4 points in that game against Texas?

Yeah man this why I gotta see this stuff for myself because you all will literally say anything lol

 

[Fishy]

You mean the NCAA tournament game he played in 22 mins as a freshman?

Most minutes outside of Taliek, Emeka, and Ben lol.

But this is your example of short leash guy Calhoun wouldn’t play?

Calhoun would not play him. He didn’t get off the bench for major minutes until Calhoun took a leave to have prostate surgery. Blaney played the against Virginia Tech and the kid produced and stayed in the rotation.

Absolutely embarrassing that you did not know that.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

The confidence to have pretty much every poster disagree with you on pretty much every topic and still be 100% convinced that you’re right on every topic is breathtaking.

 

[HW611]

The confidence to have pretty much every poster disagree with you on pretty much every topic and still be 100% convinced that you’re right on every topic is breathtaking.

Every poster also told me Mahaney was going to be good and Furphy was going to contribute. This has made me not care what most of you all think.

Calhoun would not play him. He didn’t get off the bench for major minutes until Calhoun took a leave to have prostate surgery. Blaney played the against Virginia Tech and the kid produced and stayed in the rotation.

Absolutely embarrassing that you did not know that.

I was young, Fish. Marcus never became a relevant enough of a player for me to have to remember.

I also can’t tell you too much about how Wiggins, Curtis Kelly, or Marcus Johnson was even though I 100% watched those seasons.

 

[boog204]

You’re so caught up in this you’re saying White produced when he averaged 4 points a game and scored 4 points in that game against Texas?

Yeah man this why I gotta see this stuff for myself because you all will literally say anything lol

You are so out of touch it’s just bizarre. The player you never saw play but continue to argue about was a bouncy defender and a rebounder. Think super poor man’s Rodman. He played a very meaningful role on a team that didn’t need him to score.

Every poster also told me Mahaney was going to be good and Furphy was going to contribute. This has made me not care what most of you all think.

I was young, Fish. Marcus never became a relevant enough of a player for me to have to remember.

I also can’t tell you too much about how Wiggins, Curtis Kelly, or Marcus Johnson was even though I 100% watched those seasons.

There’s a huge difference between prediction and literal analysis of things that happened.

Lastly, if you were young and don’t remember….WHY are you arguing with all of us who do?

 

[Inyatkin]

It’s fine not to know the difference between Marcus White and Marcus Johnson. It was a long time ago. But to not know and also make sweeping, incorrect statements about them is outright bizarre

 

[Kemba15]

The team as it looks today looks more vulnerable to getting knocked out by an 8 seed than it does making an NC run.

And when we beat the round 2 opponent, you’ll pivot to how scary the next matchup will be. Just like how you raved about the Illinois, Florida, and BYU rosters being such a disaster for us. Just chill and enjoy the ride—we’re not perfect but we’re pretty damn good

 

[superjohn]

And when we beat the round 2 opponent, you’ll pivot to how scary the next matchup will be. Just like how you raved about the Illinois, Florida, and BYU rosters being such a disaster for us. Just chill and enjoy the ride—we’re not perfect but we’re pretty damn good

And now those wins against Illinois, Florida, and BYU mean nothing to him because they were earlier in the season and in NYC and Boston.

 

[HW611]

You are so out of touch it’s just bizarre. The player you never saw play but continue to argue about was a bouncy defender and a rebounder. Think super poor man’s Rodman. He played a very meaningful role on a team that didn’t need him to score

You’re right man. Calhoun should’ve did better by… Marcus White.

Could’ve been the next Rodman if he played him sooner and didn’t wait.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Now I can’t get that neck ball against Texas out of my head. I really thought they were gonna pull off that comeback.

 

[Gurleyman]

You’re so caught up in this you’re saying White produced when he averaged 4 points a game and scored 4 points in that game against Texas?

Yeah man this why I gotta see this stuff for myself because you all will literally say anything lol

When we beat Syracuse - the eventual national champions with Carmelo Anthony - in the Big East semis, White had 14 rebounds and helped us dominate the glass against a front line of Anthony, Hakim Warrick, and 7-0 Craig Forth.

In 1990 Toraino Walker was a huge part of our first ever Big East Championship. Google his stats and he averaged 2.7 points that year. But trust me, he was a huge part.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Every poster also told me Mahaney was going to be good and Furphy was going to contribute. This has made me not care what most of you all think.

Yep, nailed that one.

 

[RuffRuff]

And now those wins against Illinois, Florida, and BYU mean nothing to him because they were earlier in the season and in NYC and Boston.

Great resume builders, non indicative of how the result would look today on a neutral floor. Some teams have picked up play. For instance, Illinois would be favored right now. These games were two months ago at the very beginning of the year.

Yep, nailed that one. View attachment 116515

Needed to put Ball at the point to get him ready for the NBA.

 

[HCCForever]

When we beat Syracuse - the eventual national champions with Carmelo Anthony - in the Big East semis, White had 14 rebounds and helped us dominate the glass against a front line of Anthony, Hakim Warrick, and 7-0 Craig Forth.

In 1990 Toraino Walker was a huge part of our first ever Big East Championship. Google his stats and he averaged 2.7 points that year. But trust me, he was a huge part.

I recall Toraino being huge in the Big East Tournament that year.

Off topic but I would love to see Silo go off for ten three pointers as Allie Z just did for the Women’s team.

 

[Mr. French]

Zero chance he knows who "Blaney" is.

Leonard Blaney our 3rd string center, duh

 

[Mr. French]

You’re right man. Calhoun should’ve did better by… Marcus White.

Could’ve been the next Rodman if he played him sooner and didn’t wait.

Should’ve did better by?

@Hans Sprungfeld help a brother out

 

[HW611]

When we beat Syracuse - the eventual national champions with Carmelo Anthony - in the Big East semis, White had 14 rebounds and helped us dominate the glass against a front line of Anthony, Hakim Warrick, and 7-0 Craig Forth.

In 1990 Toraino Walker was a huge part of our first ever Big East Championship. Google his stats and he averaged 2.7 points that year. But trust me, he was a huge part.

Well this conversation has evolved from White was on a tight leash and Calhoun wouldn’t play him to, he played him so much he was a huge part of us beating Syracuse in the BET.

 

[HW611]

Zero chance he knows who "Blaney" is.

Without googling it, you’ll never guess where his son coaches now.

 

[Mr. French]

Well this conversation has evolved from White was on a tight leash and Calhoun wouldn’t play him to, he played him so much he was a huge part of us beating Syracuse in the BET.

Talk about not getting nuances.

Every accusation is a confession.

 

[Gurleyman]

Well this conversation has evolved from White was on a tight leash and Calhoun wouldn’t play him to, he played him so much he was a huge part of us beating Syracuse in the BET.

Maybe paragraph text is too hard. Let me try doing this via bullet points.

• Calhoun did not play White meaningful minutes all year.
• Calhoun had health problems and took a leave of absence
• George Blaney filled in for Calhoun
• George Blaney played Marcus White
• Marcus White played very well
• Calhoun came back and White was playing too well to keep on the bench
• White stayed in the rotation and helped us win postseason games.

I hope that helps.

 

[Gurleyman]

I recall Toraino being huge in the Big East Tournament that year.

Off topic but I would love to see Silo go off for ten three pointers as Allie Z just did for the Women’s team.

Sellers went down with a knee injury and we had to throw Toraino out there against Mourning and Mutumbo. And then Derrick Coleman. He didn’t even put up huge numbers - but he battled them big time.