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Providence avoids embarrassing loss to butler

PC is a very good team with much senior leadership which makes a difference. Anyone thinking they are an easy out isn't living in reality.

Still love UConn to get a chance at them in the Big East tourney.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
Oooooffff. Bad last play by butler. Providence on shaky ground
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DePaul and Butler have been close, competitive in most games and getting better. Both came very close to knocking off Providence who has learned how to win particularly close, competitive games. I agree they are due for another loss but their pyshe should serve them well in the BIG East Tourney and the NCAAs.
 
Ts5034 said:
I wish we could play them in the Big East Tournament. Theres no way we would lose that game. Guaranteed
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We may get them depending on the draw. I am not that confident though.
 
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CheshireCat said:
Anyone saying they want to play PC or any tough team in a post-season rematch over “revenge” is an idiot. I’ll take the path of least resistance and hope for upsets that work in our favor vs hoping for tough opponents. Anyone want to be in a 2 point game with them with a minute to go? Not me.
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Best response/comment. Not sure why we keep making these Providence post. They have a better resume to me with true wins over Texas Tech, Wisconsin and a close loss to a full strength Nova. I just hope we can beat a full strength Nova because we couldn't beat them while short handed. Ijs
 
UconnFanDC said:
Best response/comment. Not sure why we keep making these Providence post. They have a better resume to me with true wins over Texas Tech, Wisconsin and a close loss to a full strength Nova. I just hope we can beat a full strength Nova because we couldn't beat them while short handed. Ijs
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They do not have a better resume. They have a better record. I would've done a blind resume test but itd have been too obvious.

Providence:
Record: 22-3(12-2)
NET: 27

Result Based Metrics(Obviously will be their strongest Metrics):
KPI: 8
SOR: 9

Predictive Based Metrics:
BPI: 41
KenPom: 44
SAG: 32

Quad W/L:
Quad 1: 6-2
Quad 2: 6-1
Quad 3:4-0
Quad 4: 6-0

NET SOS: 47
Non-Conf SOS: 119
RPI SOS: 70


Connecticut
Record: 19-7(10-5)
NET: 17

Result Based Metrics:
KPI: 22
SOR: 25

Predictive Based Metrics:
BPI: 18
KenPom: 18
SAG: 16

Quad Wins:
Quad 1: 5-6
Quad 2: 6-1
Quad 3:1-0
Quad 4:7-0

NET SOS: 36
Non Conf SOS: 120
RPI SOS: 45

I mean you be the judge. We have 1 less Quad 1 win, but have played 3 more quad one games. But they have 3 more Quad 3 games. Lets play a game and take 3 of our Q1 losses and substitute them with an assumptive 3 Q3 wins. That puts our record as 25-4. Which is why the predictive Metrics favor us in a very substantial way over PC. The W-L record is deceptive when deciding who has the better resume.
 
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shizzle787 said:
Butler is not that bad. They beat bubble team Oklahoma on the road. The Big East (with the exception of Georgetown) is strong top to bottom. I make the case that if St. John’s, Butler, and DePaul played in the ACC or Pac-12, they might be tourney teams.
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I think Anderson at St. Johns is a really good coach. If he can get some big recruits in there look out. Heck if Champagnie and Alexander had a Sanogo to throw it down too thats problably a top 15 team.
 
AntG168 said:
They do not have a better resume. They have a better record. I would've done a blind resume test but itd have been too obvious.

Providence:
Record: 22-3(12-2)
NET: 27

Result Based Metrics(Obviously will be their strongest Metrics):
KPI: 8
SOR: 9

Predictive Based Metrics:
BPI: 41
KenPom: 44
SAG: 32

Quad W/L:
Quad 1: 6-2
Quad 2: 6-1
Quad 3:4-0
Quad 4: 6-0

NET SOS: 47
Non-Conf SOS: 119
RPI SOS: 70


Connecticut
Record: 19-7(10-5)
NET: 17

Result Based Metrics:
KPI: 22
SOR: 25

Predictive Based Metrics:
BPI: 18
KenPom: 18
SAG: 16

Quad Wins:
Quad 1: 5-6
Quad 2: 6-1
Quad 3:1-0
Quad 4:7-0

NET SOS: 36
Non Conf SOS: 120
RPI SOS: 45

I mean you be the judge. We have 1 less Quad 1 win, but have played 3 more quad one games. But they have 3 more Quad 3 games. Lets play a game and take 3 of our Q1 losses and substitute them with an assumptive 3 Q3 wins. That puts our record as 25-4. Which is why the predictive Metrics favor us in a very substantial way over PC. The W-L record is deceptive when deciding who has the better resume.
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Whatever you say, geek.
 
AntG168 said:
I think we have Sanogo and a healthy Martin. You love to disagree with me. Disagree with the numbers
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Do we have to go over the first rule of holes again?

A couple of better facts to help you: Uconn is playing MUCH better than the Friars are right now. Against much better competition.

A couple of facts that may not help you out: both teams had key starters missing from the game that the Frairs won in Hartford. You keep forgetting that. And the numbers that matter are the Ws and the Ls.

Concentrate on the former and dwell less on the later. (You will sound smarter. Trust me.)
 
Rakkasan said:
Do we have to go over the first rule of holes again?

A couple of better facts to help you: Uconn is playing MUCH better than the Friars are right now. Against much better competition.

A couple of facts that may not help you out: both teams had key starters missing from the game that the Frairs won in Hartford. You keep forgetting that. And the numbers that matter are the Ws and the Ls.

Concentrate on the former and dwell less on the later. (You will sound smarter. Trust me.)
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Why do you keep messaging me. I don’t want to have this conversation with you again. Do not address me about Pc again. I don’t block, but I will. You make my yard experience significantly worse. Good bye.
 
jeff99 said:
It’s fine to say you think UConn has the better team. But better resume? No.
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Go through the numbers and prove your point. You won’t because you can’t. 75% if the metrics think we’re better. We’ve played tougher games. If we beat Nova on tuesday, it wont even be a discussion.
 
AntG168 said:
They do not have a better resume. They have a better record. I would've done a blind resume test but itd have been too obvious.

Providence:
Record: 22-3(12-2)
NET: 27

Result Based Metrics(Obviously will be their strongest Metrics):
KPI: 8
SOR: 9

Predictive Based Metrics:
BPI: 41
KenPom: 44
SAG: 32

Quad W/L:
Quad 1: 6-2
Quad 2: 6-1
Quad 3:4-0
Quad 4: 6-0

NET SOS: 47
Non-Conf SOS: 119
RPI SOS: 70


Connecticut
Record: 19-7(10-5)
NET: 17

Result Based Metrics:
KPI: 22
SOR: 25

Predictive Based Metrics:
BPI: 18
KenPom: 18
SAG: 16

Quad Wins:
Quad 1: 5-6
Quad 2: 6-1
Quad 3:1-0
Quad 4:7-0

NET SOS: 36
Non Conf SOS: 120
RPI SOS: 45

I mean you be the judge. We have 1 less Quad 1 win, but have played 3 more quad one games. But they have 3 more Quad 3 games. Lets play a game and take 3 of our Q1 losses and substitute them with an assumptive 3 Q3 wins. That puts our record as 25-4. Which is why the predictive Metrics favor us in a very substantial way over PC. The W-L record is deceptive when deciding who has the better resume.
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That's cool and everything, but if you drafting players (just starters) who are you taking and be honest. 1 Sanogo 2 Nate 3 either Cole or Durham 4 Reeves, Martin, Horchler (to me does everything Whaley does, but can shoot it) that's how I look at it. Both teams are good and we can go back and forth....... hopefully both teams matchup at MSG.
 
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Friarsnoop said:
Butler beat Creighton and Marquette in the last three weeks, plus DePaul and Georgetown. Again, every team in the conference has talent
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Is Al having surgery for the sports hernia? I can't imagine playing at that level with one - I've had two.
 
Edward Sargent said:
Is Al having surgery for the sports hernia? I can't imagine playing at that level with one - I've had two.
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He's been playing with it. They had been limiting his practices. I'm surprised they haven't corrected it yet, can be quite painful.
 
UConn won a national championship in 2014 finishing as KenPom 15 and in 2011 finishing as KenPom 10. If a Louisville or Ohio State fan came in here and told us how much better their seasons were than ours because of the deep metrics, we would all lose our collective minds.

Close games or not, the results are the results. Look at the standings, tip your hat and let them enjoy it in February.

As for the predictive portion, I predict the calendar turns to March in a week. And we all know what UConn does in March.
 
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