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I actually meant to insinuate that it's sketch that your son would rather play for coaches who are widely believed to be rampant cheaters/above the law. Penny has done nothing wrong, you are just being a hater and I guess I'm sticking up for Penny because there just is no smoke whatsoever as of now.
You find it sketchy that a kid would rather play for 3 of the best coaches in CBB history over a first year head coach? There's a lot of strange takes on the BY but this one may take the cake
 
You find it sketchy that a kid would rather play for 3 of the best coaches in CBB history over a first year head coach? There's a lot of strange takes on the BY but this one may take the cake

What kids value in a coach is arbitrary.
It didn't take the Texas Tech coach very long into his college coaching career to get in on decent talent.
 
What kids value in a coach is arbitrary.
It didn't take the Texas Tech coach very long into his college coaching career to get in on decent talent.
And that has what to do with my point?
 
What kids value in a coach is arbitrary.
It didn't take the Texas Tech coach very long into his college coaching career to get in on decent talent.

Not a great example. Beard scouted well. His team was built on the back of 3 stars.
 
Or he may value proven coaching experience over a stellar NBA career. I've said this before. Right now Penny is trading on his NBA career. He drew in a ton of talent. Now let's see if can coach them. If he can, he'll be a force to be reckoned with in college hoops for long time.

None of these kids ever saw Penny play. But his shoes are still very popular with kids and he’s made a lot of money for Nike, who is likely helping him.
 
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None of these kids ever saw Penny play. But his shoes are still very popular with kids and he’s made a lot of money for Nike, who is likely helping him.

Yeah, and it’s not just the shoes. He’s a local legend and a one word name player. Lebron, Kobe, Magic, Penny. You know them from just the one name. Lots of guys better than Penny won’t have that kind of celebrity really. He built a good staff and Memphis is probably attractive to a lot of kids.
 
None of these kids ever saw Penny play. But his shoes are still very popular with kids and he’s made a lot of money for Nike, who is likely helping him.
Penny is like a father figure to so many of these local kids who run through the Memphis area AAU circuit. He has been helping out so many for years and most of these relationships were not just formed over night. Penny is a good dude and has done a lot in that community. That being said, its not likely that Nike is helping him. NIKE is helping him.
 
One thing Penny has going for him that has not been mentioned is that he is new. Bringing in something new is very appealing to young people. Most kids think they want to make history, not relive it. To be out on the cutting edge is exciting. Besides Penny's pitch may also be that he can do more than win college games, he can get you ready for the BIG show. He is the only head coach who has the experience to train you to not only be an all-American but an all-star because he has been both. He can get you ready to experience the NBA life-style and he will be there for you beyond college. That's a great pitch. If I could go back 55 years, He would be my number 1 choice.

I see no reason to doubt Penny is clean and to assume it without some facts is just as bad as if I started posting that you are cheating on your spouse or stealing from the church.
 
The Hurley grind will pay off.
I believe(hope) this to be 100% true but this spring has been a disappointment so far. No one way can criticize Hurley and the staff for their "grind" and their approach is a complete 180 from the past few years, but my concerns about recruiting top talent to UConn are growing. To me, they still earn a pass for this spring but 2020 will be the real test. My fear is that Kofi was foreshadowing. Hurley's grind will get us on a bunch of final lists. The real question is will they be able to close.
 
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I believe(hope) this to be 100% true but this spring has been a disappointment so far. No one way can criticize Hurley and the staff for their "grind" and their approach is a complete 180 from the past few years, but my concerns about recruiting top talent to UConn are growing. To me, they still earn a pass for this spring but 2020 will be the real test. My fear is that Kofi was foreshadowing. Hurley's grind will get us on a bunch of final lists. The real question is will they be able to close.
Who have we missed on in the spring? You're blaming Hurley for kids not choosing fast enough?
 
I believe(hope) this to be 100% true but this spring has been a disappointment so far. No one way can criticize Hurley and the staff for their "grind" and their approach is a complete 180 from the past few years, but my concerns about recruiting top talent to UConn are growing. To me, they still earn a pass for this spring but 2020 will be the real test. My fear is that Kofi was foreshadowing. Hurley's grind will get us on a bunch of final lists. The real question is will they be able to close.
Kofi is the only priority recruit(1st option) that has turned Hurley down so far. Precious most likely will be the second but Hurley went 3-5 this cycle with 3 top 100 guys. Our future outlook looks fine. RJ Cole and Ntambwe who have been priorities this spring are by all accounts possible UConn leans. Let’s wait and see how he finishes this off. I will admit that the consistent inability to land a real BIG man is frustrating as hell
 
Kofi is the only priority recruit(1st option) that has turned Hurley down so far. Precious most likely will be the second but Hurley went 3-5 this cycle with 3 top 100 guys. Our future outlook looks fine. RJ Cole and Ntambwe who have been priorities this spring are by all accounts possible UConn leans. Let’s wait and see how he finishes this off. I will admit that the consistent inability to land a real BIG man is frustrating as hell
Where did you read Cole and Ntambwe are UConn leans? Ntambwe is not coming here and other posters have suggested that they are hearing the opposite on Cole.
 
My personal opinion is Penny is going to be KO 2.0. Not one of these former NBA players has panned out as a big time college coach because none of them want to put in the effort. They may all have a recruiting advantage, but as Calipari has shown almost every year, recruiting is only half (or even less) of the equation. If you can’t get your team to play team defense and work toward the benefit of the team them recruiting doesn’t matter. How often has Kentucky landed 3-4 top 10 players only to lose in the sweet 16 or elite 8? Talent will take you to a point, but coaching in college is such a huge part. That’s why I have a lot of confidence in Hurley, he’s more of a Chris Beard type who can take a 3 star and make them into a 4 year contributor and possibly get them into the league.

The recipe for success in the NCAA tournament is still to have 1 or 2 star players (4 or 5 star recruits) with a cast of junior and senior role players. Almost every championship team hasn’t been constructed this way.
 
Where did you read Cole and Ntambwe are UConn leans? Ntambwe is not coming here and other posters have suggested that they are hearing the opposite on Cole.
I haven't seen anyone suggest Cole is going elsewhere. Just this morning the opposite was implied and we'll get him
 
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Hardaway will work harder than Ollie did and probably doesn't have some of the personal baggage that our guy started to carry around.

Can he coach or manage a program? I dunno - we'll find out - but given that he's basically an AAU god, you knew he would be able to get players.
 
My personal opinion is Penny is going to be KO 2.0. Not one of these former NBA players has panned out as a big time college coach because none of them want to put in the effort. They may all have a recruiting advantage, but as Calipari has shown almost every year, recruiting is only half (or even less) of the equation. If you can’t get your team to play team defense and work toward the benefit of the team them recruiting doesn’t matter. How often has Kentucky landed 3-4 top 10 players only to lose in the sweet 16 or elite 8? Talent will take you to a point, but coaching in college is such a huge part. That’s why I have a lot of confidence in Hurley, he’s more of a Chris Beard type who can take a 3 star and make them into a 4 year contributor and possibly get them into the league.

The recipe for success in the NCAA tournament is still to have 1 or 2 star players (4 or 5 star recruits) with a cast of junior and senior role players. Almost every championship team hasn’t been constructed this way.
I agree the stars are great and attract attention but developing guys with a little lower profile and potential is the way this program was built in the first place.
 
My personal opinion is Penny is going to be KO 2.0. Not one of these former NBA players has panned out as a big time college coach because none of them want to put in the effort. They may all have a recruiting advantage, but as Calipari has shown almost every year, recruiting is only half (or even less) of the equation. If you can’t get your team to play team defense and work toward the benefit of the team them recruiting doesn’t matter. How often has Kentucky landed 3-4 top 10 players only to lose in the sweet 16 or elite 8? Talent will take you to a point, but coaching in college is such a huge part. That’s why I have a lot of confidence in Hurley, he’s more of a Chris Beard type who can take a 3 star and make them into a 4 year contributor and possibly get them into the league.

The recipe for success in the NCAA tournament is still to have 1 or 2 star players (4 or 5 star recruits) with a cast of junior and senior role players. Almost every championship team hasn’t been constructed this way.
You say Penny will be KO 2.0 but then bring up Calipari to prove your point. If Penny is like Calipari then he will be a massive success.
 
Where did you read Cole and Ntambwe are UConn leans? Ntambwe is not coming here and other posters have suggested that they are hearing the opposite on Cole.
It was reported the Ntambwe wanted to commit but that our scholarship situation prevented that. UNLV insiders were implying his UConn lean right after the visit
 
I haven't seen anyone suggest Cole is going elsewhere. Just this morning the opposite was implied and we'll get him
I must have missed that. A poster a few weeks back suggested he was hearing that Alabama was a real player here. In fact, two posters have suggested that. Where was it implied we are getting him?
 
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Let’s complete the cycle and see what we have this season. Quite frankly, we already have 3 key players, and we will get more.
Totally agree here. This is already our 2nd highest ranked recruiting class in the last ten years. Hurley's team has done well and it has a chance to get even better.
 
I believe(hope) this to be 100% true but this spring has been a disappointment so far. No one way can criticize Hurley and the staff for their "grind" and their approach is a complete 180 from the past few years, but my concerns about recruiting top talent to UConn are growing. To me, they still earn a pass for this spring but 2020 will be the real test. My fear is that Kofi was foreshadowing. Hurley's grind will get us on a bunch of final lists. The real question is will they be able to close.
would your opinion on 'spring disappointment' be different if our big 3 signings were announced in spring instead of winter?
 
I must have missed that. A poster a few weeks back suggested he was hearing that Alabama was a real player here.
Yeah seems to be between us and Alabama. Maybe it's just the optimist in me, but I take it as a good sign that he left his visit with Bama without commiting and is waiting 3 weeks to still come visit here
 
Hardaway will work harder than Ollie did and probably doesn't have some of the personal baggage that our guy started to carry around.

Can he coach or manage a program? I dunno - we'll find out - but given that he's basically an AAU god, you knew he would be able to get players.
That’s the one thing I will never understand about KO (except with some kind of psychological change) how he stopped working. The same guy I would see early weekend mornings with Patrick Knight at the former Aetna Institute gym, stealing that extra sweat and workout during his CT Pride days. I get where he did not have the program management ability - I absolutely am not surprised by that. But, the work ethic falloff and poor relationships with his players (except a few favorites) that surprises me to this day.
 
That’s the one thing I will never understand about KO (except with some kind of psychological change) how he stopped working. The same guy I would see early weekend mornings with Patrick Knight at the former Aetna Institute gym, stealing that extra sweat and workout during his CT Pride days. I get where he did not have the program management ability - I absolutely am not surprised by that. But, the work ethic falloff and poor relationships with his players (except a few favorites) that surprises me to this day.
Yes, a lot of what happened with KO the last few years is as shocking as it is confusing. I am not sure some of it will ever make sense.
 
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