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Possible Big 12 Invite rumors

Big 12 Yea/ Nay

  • We got no choice

    Votes: 305 46.9%

  • Stay in the Big East

    Votes: 251 38.6%

  • Are we there yet?

    Votes: 94 14.5%
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    650
aburks41 said:
It would be the most UConn thing ever if we are being used as leverage just to force the Arizona schools into changing directions and ditching the PAC for the B12.
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Maybe, but I do believe B12 commissioner Yormark genuinely wants a piece of the NYC area, it's all about conquering new territory. He also values basketball and thinks basketball TV contracts are undervalued. If Gonzaga is being considered as a hybrid addition then you can bet Nova and St Johns would also be considered. There is value in being the best at something and maybe he wants to build the best basketball conference.
 
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If it happens I hope they look into other eastern schools. The travel will suck as it is right now, so if they only add more west coast schools that'll make it even tougher to swallow.
 
I was at a party this past weekend with someone involved in athletics at UConn. We got to talking about the Big East and other conferences and where UConn stood. Stated that Big 12 was a very distinct and real possibility and if offered, UConn is going.

Also stated that it wouldn’t particularly affect with what sport he’s closely tied to which I found interesting. (I won’t say the sport due to giving away the source)
 
UConnKev said:
I was at a party this past weekend with someone involved in athletics at UConn. We got to talking about the Big East and other conferences and where UConn stood. Stated that Big 12 was a very distinct and real possibility and if offered, UConn is going.

Also stated that it wouldn’t particularly affect with what sport he’s closely tied to which I found interesting. (I won’t say the sport due to giving away the source)
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Hockey
 
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Jbirdp5 said:
This seems like he means there’s an even bigger plan in place once the two additions go through. Assuming that means more northern schools and that’s why it will eventually make more sense?
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What other Northern schools are available?
 
metsfan2323 said:
Maybe, but I do believe B12 commissioner Yormark genuinely wants a piece of the NYC area, it's all about conquering new territory. He also values basketball and thinks basketball TV contracts are undervalued. If Gonzaga is being considered as a hybrid addition then you can bet Nova and St Johns would also be considered. There is value in being the best at something and maybe he wants to build the best basketball conference.
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He would be stupid not to. It's insane we've been left out all this time.
 
aburks41 said:
It would be the most UConn thing ever if we are being used as leverage just to force the Arizona schools into changing directions and ditching the PAC for the B12.
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Yeah when it comes to conference realignment expect the unexpected and that nothing truly happens until it really is official.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
Maybe, but I do believe B12 commissioner Yormark genuinely wants a piece of the NYC area, it's all about conquering new territory. He also values basketball and thinks basketball TV contracts are undervalued. If Gonzaga is being considered as a hybrid addition then you can bet Nova and St Johns would also be considered. There is value in being the best at something and maybe he wants to build the best basketball conference.
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That is a key human trait, IMO. Sure people want money and extrinsic rewards for themselves and for the conference in this particular case, but there is more to it than that. Yormark is paid handsomely and most likely has more money he knows what to do with, but being the best at something is a huge ego boost.
 
Jbirdp5 said:
I honestly don’t have the slightest clue, but he had to mean something along those lines right? That’s the only way I can see it really “making sense”
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There's been Gonzaga smoke for a while. If there's any truth there, they ain't taking just one basketball only. So...maybe Gonzaga-Villanova? Maybe two other BE schools (SJU-Georgetown?) to take the three biggest BE brands (UConn-Nova-Georgetown) and a NYC school?

To be fair, I don't believe UConn is going to the B12 (though we'd have to do it and I wouldn't be too broken up about it). A scenario that ends with two divisions that look like: UConn/SJU/Nova/Georgetown/UCF/Cincy/WVU doesn't suck, though that's just 7 schools. There'd need to be 2 more in that scenario...
 
tzznandrew said:
There's been Gonzaga smoke for a while. If there's any truth there, they ain't taking just one basketball only. So...maybe Gonzaga-Villanova? Maybe two other BE schools (SJU-Georgetown?) to take the three biggest BE brands (UConn-Nova-Georgetown) and a NYC school?

To be fair, I don't believe UConn is going to the B12 (though we'd have to do it and I wouldn't be too broken up about it). A scenario that ends with two divisions that look like: UConn/SJU/Nova/Georgetown/UCF/Cincy/WVU doesn't suck, though that's just 7 schools. There'd need to be 2 more in that scenario...
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Syracuse and Pitt somehow find their way in there and I think just about every UConn fan would be on board with that scenario. Literally just the old BE lol
 
aburks41 said:
Syracuse and Pitt somehow find their way in there and I think just about every UConn fan would be on board with that scenario. Literally just the old BE lol
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Not this fan. They get their time in purgstory, especially the duplicitous Panthers. I honestly, truly, hope they whither and that UConn doesn’t lift a finger to help.
 
aburks41 said:
Syracuse and Pitt somehow find their way in there and I think just about every UConn fan would be on board with that scenario. Literally just the old BE lol
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Yeah, I was thinking more two more from the current batch. If you add Syracuse and Pitt, you still need to pull one from the West. That would be a kickass conference. Can't see how or why Syracuse or Pitt would do that, even though each would benefit immensely on the court. Of course, also: the GOR.
 
I have vacillated over whether we should go to the Big 12 or not as I love the Big East. However, I think we should make the move if we play Cincy and WVU yearly in football (and both twice in basketball). I would love for the other original BE schools (Nova, Georgetown, St. John's, Seton Hall, and-yes-Providence) to come with us plus maybe Gonzaga.
 
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tzznandrew said:
Yeah, I was thinking more two more from the current batch. If you add Syracuse and Pitt, you still need to pull one from the West. That would be a kickass conference. Can't see how or why Syracuse or Pitt would do that, even though each would benefit immensely on the court. Of course, also: the GOR.
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I’m surprised Oregon hasn’t been involved in this at all. They seem like a no brainer addition for the B12 if they want to move west. Unless Oregon is staying put and waiting for a B1G invite to come
 
I suspect that all the remaining Pac 12 teams are waiting to see what Apple does. Whatever league Apple gets behind is going to thrive.

In 10 years, a lot of people are going to look stupid thinking that the Big 10 was going to dominate college sports because they had a cable channel.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I suspect that all the remaining Pac 12 teams are waiting to see what Apple does. Whatever league Apple gets behind is going to thrive.

In 10 years, a lot of people are going to look stupid thinking that the Big 10 was going to dominate college sports because they had a cable channel.
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The Big 10 has OTA linear networks, not really cable. Cable may die, but CBS, FOX, NBC, and ABC won't.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Either I misinterpreted your initial post or you subsequently added the few teams leaving.

I personally don't see dissolution of the conference as a possibility as it would leave any school without a prearranged invitation to a new conference in the wilderness. No school wants this and I can't see schools that are confident they'll eventually get an invitation to the B1G or SEC voting for dissolution as those invitations are likely years out.

The ACC is making noise solely because they can only make noise. Nothing can be done to change their situation but they have alumni bases that a few complaining schools need to be able to tell "we are trying everything we can" to keep them satisfied.

The schools crying the most (FSU, Clemson) only have the B-12 as a possible option and going through what it would take to gain their freedom wouldn't be worth the end result. The schools that may have options (three or four in NC & Va) know they are more than half a decade away from their options materializing. The rest of the conference either us hopeful that they can land on their feet or knows they will take a step down once the conference GOR expires.

ND is the only school that has no concerns. The second they say they'll join a conference for all sports the B1G will drop everything and add them. ND is in less if a rush than the B1G.

The ACC will remain as it is until the end of the GOR is within sight.
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I could see big payouts, with the conferences they land in worked out long before this all becomes public
 
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I have it from a very good source that we are officially leaving the Big East for the Big 12. No longer a rumor

My two big questions that I'm trying to figure out: 1) when is this happening, 2024-2025 already or further away. 2) Who else is joining, anyone else from the Northeast?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I suspect that all the remaining Pac 12 teams are waiting to see what Apple does. Whatever league Apple gets behind is going to thrive.

In 10 years, a lot of people are going to look stupid thinking that the Big 10 was going to dominate college sports because they had a cable channel.
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FOX, CBS, NBC, ABC, and ESPN are going to dominate sports forever. If people get rid of cable, they’re likely just moving to YoutubeTV or Sling which still offers those channels.

No one on the east coast is paying $15/mo for apple tv to watch random Pac12 teams that they have zero affiliation with. Exclusively behind a paywall would be a disaster
 
aburks41 said:
FOX, CBS, NBC, ABC, and ESPN are going to dominate sports forever. If people get rid of cable, they’re likely just moving to YoutubeTV or Sling which still offers those channels.

No one on the east coast is paying $15/mo for apple tv to watch random Pac12 teams that they have zero affiliation with. Exclusively behind a paywall would be a disaster
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First, many across the country are already paying for AppleTV. Putting the Pac 10 on it will just be a bonus. Second, everything will be behind a paywall. NBC (Peacock), ABC (Hulu), CBS (Paramount) and ESPN are already behind a paywall. Resellers like YoutubeTV and Sling will be minor players in 10 years unless they come up with proprietary content. All the pure middlemen like Sling or cable will be gone or marginalized.

The Big 10 got to where it is because it could charge every subscriber across the midwest for the BTN. Those days are ending soon, or at least going to get skinnier. Paramount, Peacock and Hulu/ESPN are able to get away with reselling old content, so they may step up for the SEC or BTN, or they may not. Apple needs new stuff, which means it might be willing to pay up for live sports. We will see soon.
 
tzznandrew said:
There's been Gonzaga smoke for a while. If there's any truth there, they ain't taking just one basketball only. So...maybe Gonzaga-Villanova? Maybe two other BE schools (SJU-Georgetown?) to take the three biggest BE brands (UConn-Nova-Georgetown) and a NYC school?

To be fair, I don't believe UConn is going to the B12 (though we'd have to do it and I wouldn't be too broken up about it). A scenario that ends with two divisions that look like: UConn/SJU/Nova/Georgetown/UCF/Cincy/WVU doesn't suck, though that's just 7 schools. There'd need to be 2 more in that scenario...
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I guess I don’t see why the Big 12 will need to take anyone as a basketball-only school. UConn, Colorado, Arizona, and maybe another eastern school seems plenty. Us and probably Nova could cut it in a national conference. I don’t see Georgetown or St. John’s as fits. It’s too bad Nova doesn’t have D1 football.
 
ToolzieFan said:
I guess I don’t see why the Big 12 will need to take anyone as a basketball-only school. UConn, Colorado, Arizona, and maybe another eastern school seems plenty. Us and probably Nova could cut it in a national conference. I don’t see Georgetown or St. John’s as fits. It’s too bad Nova doesn’t have D1 football.
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Agreed. No way any non-football schools are getting into the Big 10 or Big 12.
 
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