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[jibsey]

I know it’s hoops but I wanted to share this just in case. A former employees father of mine who was 78, not ill and preexisting conditions of diabetes and high blood pressure passed from Covid in just 1 week. His son who lives with him and was going to the gym brought it home. Why they never signed him up and got him the vaccine a month ago I don’t know but they could have It seems. They are all devastated over something preventable. If you have aged people you know go and call for them to get an appointment as many are not computer savvy or will not take the initiative themselves. No one is wearing masks in the gyms ( I got the vaccine) and I understand that because you can’t breathe well. Second person I know but the first got it too early for the vaccine.

 

[Excalibur]

HAHA - as if they had a tracker they wouldn't just put it in something else we already ingested. Of all of the nonsense - this one is the funniest.

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[ASweet3781]

So how does the OP know that the son gave COVID to his father?

And why even share this on a message board? You feel good for suggesting the son gave this disease and killed his own dad? Guess it was because he was so selfish because he went to the gym. Without a mask.

And even the guy who died of COVID gets thrown under the bus. "Why they never signed him up to be vaccinated I don't know...".

How do you know what they did or didn't do? My parents are in their 70s and live in Mass and just got in last Friday for their 2nd shot (they tried for weeks to get their appointments).

You have no idea what this families situation is or what they did and didn't do. And of course no one is bothered by it. Share on a message board a guy died, shame his son for it, and shame the dead guy too. No one blinks an eye. But that's the sick part about COVID some are really enjoying. It's been the greatest gift to the judgmental and self righteous.

 

[BLUEDOGHOUSE]

Thanks

This article actually says that those who participated in the Pfizer trial are thought not to be capable of spreading Covid asymptomatically.

So the vaccine may actually prevent transmission up until its efficacy point (95%).

If true, then we would presumably reach herd immunity much quicker.

Great article. Thanks.

 

[polycom]

Needles in arms that’s all that matters. Make it happen, if you don’t want the vax that’s fine this is a free country but you shouldn’t get any services to treat your covid the end.

 

[8893]

Even this isn't necessarily true. They simply don't know yet if it protects from contracting asymptomatic Covid or from spreading the disease, but the early returns are encouraging. It would be highly unusual if the vaccine did not at least greatly curtail asymptomatic spread.

Good clarification. My first part is true but I should have said they don’t know yet about the second but the data from that article I linked sounds promising.

 

[Fishy]

They cut corners to rush this to market, which is typical for the vaccine industry which is exempt from liability (see 1986 NVICP signed by Reagan). There is no internal incentive for absolute safety. HCV and HIV vaccines took 25+ years, in terms of R&D and rigorous testing. Then on top of it, we have these various covid vaccines which are only focused on symptom mitigation, albeit important for high risk individuals.

This is what natural selection looks like.

 

[Rocktheworld]

I heard many stories about kids infecting their parents and the parent dying. Regardless of how it happened, the kid living with that has got to feel freakin terrible. It may be a feeling that will never go away, without help.

Hopefully he/she can forgive themselves.

Probably learned a good lesson at least

 

[Rocktheworld]

My wife is a covid nazi, but in the end I'm thankful for it. There are a lot of people out there killing other people and they have no idea.

Someone’s protect the idiots from themselves, amirite?

 

[BackAftaThis]

Needles in arms that’s all that matters. Make it happen, if you don’t want the vax that’s fine this is a free country but you shouldn’t get any services to treat your covid the end.

No STD services if you don’t wear condoms either

 

[Rocktheworld]

Anti-vaxxers are no more than a branch of conspiracy theorists. I think they need to start being called as such more explicitly so as to shame them.

 

[Scoe]

Krispy Kreme is giving away free donuts every day for a year if you get the vaccine, isn’t that a little counter productive there eating donuts every day for a year. Nonetheless guess it’s a cool gesture on Krispy Kreme behalf.

 

[Rocktheworld]

No STD services if you don’t wear condoms either

How much did your vaccine cost you?

 

[connVA]

Yes and you do whatever you’re comfortable with. The death rate is 1.8%. My condolences to your own personal experience but the odds are near all will not die from this. Obesity, age, and any other co-morbidities are major factors in determining your own risk.

It's a good thing you only have to worry about death with COVID. Oh wait...

 

[Rocktheworld]

Krispy Kreme is giving away free donuts every day for a year if you get the vaccine, isn’t that a little counter productive there eating donuts every day for a year. Nonetheless guess it’s a cool gesture on Krispy Kreme behalf.

Lol I’m gonna treat this like a bad joke because everyone else is about to go in on you if you’re serious

 

[TheChamps990411]

I know it’s hoops but I wanted to share this just in case. A former employees father of mine who was 78, not ill and preexisting conditions of diabetes and high blood pressure passed from Covid in just 1 week. His son who lives with him and was going to the gym brought it home. Why they never signed him up and got him the vaccine a month ago I don’t know but they could have It seems. They are all devastated over something preventable. If you have aged people you know go and call for them to get an appointment as many are not computer savvy or will not take the initiative themselves. No one is wearing masks in the gyms ( I got the vaccine) and I understand that because you can’t breathe well. Second person I know but the first got it too early for the vaccine.

Not surprised you live in Florida.

 

[mauconnfan]

Sorry to hear jibsey. Thank you for the heads up as well much appreciated!

 

[8893]

Krispy Kreme is giving away free donuts every day for a year if you get the vaccine, isn’t that a little counter productive there eating donuts every day for a year. Nonetheless guess it’s a cool gesture on Krispy Kreme behalf.

I’m going to break those Em Efers if I have to gain 30 pounds to do it.

 

[polycom]

No STD services if you don’t wear condoms either

Considering that everyone on earth who has multiple sexual partners likely has an std or has had one I don’t think this is the same but I’m fine with it as policy

 

[jdb50]

I think the only scientific evidence we really have at this point is that the vaccines very likely do not have severe side effects for the vast majority of people who take them, and that they provide some level of protection. Beyond that we don't know too much. I understand people having qualms given the expedited emergency approval process, the questions about ultimate efficacy, and the minimal level of risk to young healthy people from COVID.

I'm personally in between Moderna shots, but that's partly because at this point I'd let people inject anything into my arm to get my kids back in school full time. It will be a very different calculus for me if the vaccines are approved for children without a more standard review process.

What the hell are you talking about selles they are in trials now for people down to age 16 and will do more trials for younger people than that. The more standard review process has been getting done as this pandemic has been going on and vaccines have been developed. The amount of blood clots in the Astra -Zeneca vaccinated population matches that in the regular population. It was a red herring.

 

[jibsey]

Yes and you do whatever you’re comfortable with. The death rate is 1.8%. My condolences to your own personal experience but the odds are near all will not die from this. Obesity, age, and any other co-morbidities are major factors in determining your own risk.

And if it was only about the individual nationally I would agree, but not getting the vaccine while it may not affect you personally can kill someone else. Maybe not in your case but asymptomatic carriers can kill grandma or grandpa. I’ve seen this happpen more than once.

 

[jibsey]

What language is this?

Sanskrit.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Many health-care workers have not gotten a coronavirus vaccine - The Washington Post

According to a Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation poll, barely half of front-line health-care workers (52 percent) said they had received at least their first vaccine dose at the time they were surveyed. More than 1 in 3 said they were not confident vaccines were sufficiently tested for safety and effectiveness.

The nationally representative survey of 1,327 front-line health-care workers, conducted Feb. 11 through March 7, illustrates the challenges ahead as vaccine advocates try to persuade a wider population — with less familiarity with medicine — to get vaccinated.

 

[superjohn]

Many health-care workers have not gotten a coronavirus vaccine - The Washington Post

According to a Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation poll, barely half of front-line health-care workers (52 percent) said they had received at least their first vaccine dose at the time they were surveyed. More than 1 in 3 said they were not confident vaccines were sufficiently tested for safety and effectiveness.

The nationally representative survey of 1,327 front-line health-care workers, conducted Feb. 11 through March 7, illustrates the challenges ahead as vaccine advocates try to persuade a wider population — with less familiarity with medicine — to get vaccinated.

If we have that many dumb and or selfish people they can remain outside of society while the rest of us fully return to it.

 

[jibsey]

Many health-care workers have not gotten a coronavirus vaccine - The Washington Post

According to a Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation poll, barely half of front-line health-care workers (52 percent) said they had received at least their first vaccine dose at the time they were surveyed. More than 1 in 3 said they were not confident vaccines were sufficiently tested for safety and effectiveness.

The nationally representative survey of 1,327 front-line health-care workers, conducted Feb. 11 through March 7, illustrates the challenges ahead as vaccine advocates try to persuade a wider population — with less familiarity with medicine — to get vaccinated.

Health care workers are not universally intelligent just because they are in healthcare.

 

[Kathy]

Health care workers are not universally intelligent just because they are in healthcare.

I would like to see a breakdown asto whether it's nurses, docs, cleaning staff, dietary lab, radiology, PT. Be nice to know if it is isolated to certain groups.
But 50% of correctional.officers are refusing as are at least 30% of the military

 

[nomar]

Krispy Kreme is giving away free donuts every day for a year if you get the vaccine, isn’t that a little counter productive there eating donuts every day for a year. Nonetheless guess it’s a cool gesture on Krispy Kreme behalf.

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[TheRealKBuks]

This is what natural selection looks like.

I know right. Imagine being hesitant to get a vaccine from a trillion dollar industry that profits on people being sick which has also been granted full immununity from any negative repercussions regarding side effects. The gaul.

Anyone who says the the vaccines are safe is speaking on hope alone. There are 0 longitudinal studies that say this is safe. There is a reason every SARS vaccine has been rejected by the FDA prior this one.

You are test group no matter What you tell yourself.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Health care workers are not universally intelligent just because they are in healthcare.

If we have that many dumb and or selfish people they can remain outside of society while the rest of us fully return to it.

I would like to see a breakdown asto whether it's nurses, docs, cleaning staff, dietary lab, radiology, PT. Be nice to know if it is isolated to certain groups.
But 50% of correctional.officers are refusing as are at least 30% of the military

I was curious to the breakdown as well. Nothing in there.

Bigger picture is despite what people are chirping on this message board large percentages of adults in industries with contact with COVID patients are opting out of getting the vaccine. I've yet to see any information on unvaccinated employees in these groups continuing to get COVID while vaccinated workers don't catch it.

 

[Chin Diesel]

I would like to see a breakdown asto whether it's nurses, docs, cleaning staff, dietary lab, radiology, PT. Be nice to know if it is isolated to certain groups.
But 50% of correctional.officers are refusing as are at least 30% of the military

There are some charts with different breakdowns.

 

[Chin Diesel]