PAC 12 final offer

[Carnac]

I nominate this post for POD.....Post of the Day. This guy hit the nail on the head. 100 likes for this post.

 

[peyton1211]

https://x.com/jasilynphilavo1/status/1691857083119841564?s=46

 

[Hoophound]

https://x.com/jasilynphilavo1/status/1691857083119841564?s=46

That's the best one I've seen. It leaves out the super tiny name schools. I'd be interested for football, but basketball wouldn't be so hot. Also, Navy should probably be in there for viewership reasons.

 

[HuskyHawk]

That's the best one I've seen. It leaves out the super tiny name schools. I'd be interested for football, but basketball wouldn't be so hot. Also, Navy should probably be in there for viewership reasons.

It's ok except that we are in it. Gross.

 

[Hoophound]

It's ok except that we are in it. Gross.

I agree, but it is a pretty solid football lineup. Take a look at our home football schedules for 24' and 25'. Not pretty.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I agree, but it is a pretty solid football lineup. Take a look at our home football schedules for 24' and 25'. Not pretty.

Terrible for other sports and the nothing would kill those programs faster. It isn't billed as "football only". That would be ok.

 

[noeynox]

I cannot believe ESPN offered 30 million and they sent Kliavkoff out to ask for 50 million. That is the epitome of brutality or at least self sabotage.

 

[huskymedic]

Pac-12 had 'great offer from Apple,' ASU's Michael Crow says

ASU president Michael Crow still believes the Pac-12's proposal media deal with Apple would have worked out had the conference held together.

arizonasports.com

 

[noeynox]

Inside the Pac-12 collapse: Four surprising moments that crushed the conference

How did the Pac-12 die? These surprising decisions by USC, Oregon, Washington and others thwarted efforts to save the conference.

www.latimes.com

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I cannot believe ESPN offered 30 million and they sent Kliavkoff out to ask for 50 million. That is the epitome of brutality or at least self sabotage.

It was the textbook example of not being able to read the market.

 

[noeynox]

It was the textbook example of not being able to read the market.

In all honesty, it was just flat out boneheaded and stupid.

 

[Husky68]

Well Washington and Oregon got much more and Colorado, AS, ASU and Utah got their $30+ anyway. So some of them knew what they were doing. WS, OS, Cal and Stanford are scrambling and if two get to ACC then they are also at the $30 or so. WS and OS are the guys who seem to have the worst of it.

 

[Rufus]

The PAC-12 is an example of why people who know nothing about college sports shouldn't be making decisions about college sports.

 

[superjohn]

That's the best one I've seen. It leaves out the super tiny name schools. I'd be interested for football, but basketball wouldn't be so hot. Also, Navy should probably be in there for viewership reasons.

Basketball wouldn't be so hot? It would be an epic disaster.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

It was the textbook example of not being able to read the market.

It seems more like a textbook example of ESPN misinformation.

 

[noeynox]

It seems more like a textbook example of ESPN misinformation.

How so? We have PAC people saying they turned down 30 million from ESPN and asked for 50 instead. The WSU AD stated the conference was grossly mismanaged for a decade. The ESPN offer ended up being higher than the Apple offer, though if i was them i would have taken the Apple offer since it gave them an out after 2 years if they weren't making as much as the Big12 with subs. Much like the BE FB conference in its final days you had people within the conference working behind the scenes to bring about the conference's demise. In this case it was OU/UW whose end goal was always the B1G.

 

[ZooCougar]

Inside the Pac-12 collapse: Four surprising moments that crushed the conference

How did the Pac-12 die? These surprising decisions by USC, Oregon, Washington and others thwarted efforts to save the conference.

www.latimes.com

This is a must read. Amazing that our fate is partially determined by these dunderheads.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Basketball wouldn't be so hot? It would be an epic disaster.

As in, worse than the American at its start. A steaming pile.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[HuskyHawk]

There is a lot in that article. Women's hoop and UConn mentioned. ESPN's Burke Magnus on TV rights plans, SEC over Big Ten, Jeff Van Gundy and more

 

[nelsonmuntz]

There is a lot in that article. Women's hoop and UConn mentioned. ESPN's Burke Magnus on TV rights plans, SEC over Big Ten, Jeff Van Gundy and more

They should have asked this question: Do you think you will go down as the stupidest businessman in history for trying to destroy three sports, football, men’s and women’s basketball, that are absolutely mission critical for ESPN going forward?

 

[temery]

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[upstater]

Some of the people in this thread are reading this right, but not all. At USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington, the schools were never going to accept ESPN's offer.

So to say this is just dunderheaded presidents is a convenient excuse for them.

If anything, Oregon and Washington were hoping the Pac12 dissolved into the B12. They knew for a very long time they were getting out, but they didn't want to be the ones to kill it.

When the meeting happened, the chips were finally on the table.

There is no alternate universe where USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington had more realistic presidents who knew college sports and therefore read the marketplace correctly, and accepted ESPN's offer.

We're all here discussing FSU squeezing ACC members into giving it bigger shares. It was the same dynamic in the B12 and the Pac12. The big schools simply wanted a lot more.

 

[Kolumbo]

So OSU and WSU are in an interesting position as the last two programs remaining. Mountain West, AAC, or a reverse merger in the PAC.

"But how the eventual alignment shakes out is a source of great intrigue because the assets, out-year revenues, and broader marketplace value of the Pac-12 -- as a legal entity and brand name -- are worth millions. Not, WSU President Kirk Schulz tells Cougfan.com, the potential $400 million of early media report, but still in the millions."

"As such, Wilner and former Fox News president Bob Thompson, among others, say a reverse merger or some other legal twist with the Mountain West seems on tap so the Cougars and Beavers don't lose that value, which they would lose if they simply joined one of those other conferences as a regular member."

Where WSU stands with Stanford and Cal to ACC, and AAC no longer an option

Pac-12's assets and brand loom large as Cougs and Beavs make their way as final two

247sports.com

 

[noeynox]

Some of the people in this thread are reading this right, but not all. At USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington, the schools were never going to accept ESPN's offer.

So to say this is just dunderheaded presidents is a convenient excuse for them.

If anything, Oregon and Washington were hoping the Pac12 dissolved into the B12. They knew for a very long time they were getting out, but they didn't want to be the ones to kill it.

When the meeting happened, the chips were finally on the table.

There is no alternate universe where USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington had more realistic presidents who knew college sports and therefore read the marketplace correctly, and accepted ESPN's offer.

We're all here discussing FSU squeezing ACC members into giving it bigger shares. It was the same dynamic in the B12 and the Pac12. The big schools simply wanted a lot more.

I've said from the beginning this was an inside job. Really sent Kliavkoff back to ask for 50 million? Pffft. Buying time till the implosion came.