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We coukdn't stop their PG off the dribble. That broke everything down defensively. True, on offense, when the defense interferes with the well choreograph plays - that's when someone needs to step up and create their own shots or ad hoc assists. That did not happen often enough. They also had the size, which wore us down inside.
 
The perception is this is an upset, which yeah it is because its Uconn, in reality is this a huge upset, it was a young Uconn team, its not like they had Stewie on the team.
 
Towney007 said:
2.) Kind of a classic example of lots of talent, not enough leadership on the team. Gabby Williams was a sage tonight - but Katie Lou, Kia Nurse and Collier kept looking to each other to see who else would step up. And no one did. Collier just had an atrocious game. Katie did one of her space trips. Kia just looked.... overwhelmed tonight - and I don't usually see that from her.

3.) Just nip and tuck 'lose yourself a game' kind of stuff. Missed a lot of open shots. Missed layups. Missed free throws. That's what happens.

4.) I AM NOT A SAGE IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, but I - no joke - saw maybe... 4 or 5 other non-UConn women's basketball games and 3 of them had Mississippi State in them. Electric PG. Huge womenz up front. Well coached and waaaaaay to stupid to know they shouldn't be playing as well as they were. Usually a good combination.

So good on MSU. But Gino called this in December. They were an immature team. It finally caught up to them.
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Very good post.

Until the last, awful play, I'd argue that Chong was stepping well into the void you identified re Nurse, Samuelson, and Collier, and I was feeling good for her,and hopeful that it would be just enough needed to survive a game lacking the necessary three: defensive stops, made free throws, and low turnovers.

On the "waaaaay to stupid to know" point, MSU missed a lot of open(-enough) shots badly in the first half, and just went and got the offensive rebounds like it was no big deal. A hot-shooting team would never have let UConn back into the game.

In 1974, North Carolina State beat UCLA in an overtime semi-final game with a troika of extra small, medium, and extra large to stop UCLA's Championship string at 7. While, NCS was ranked number 1 during the season, it nonetheless registered as a shock that a team with Walton & Wilkes lost.

FOr those who did not watch prior to the game, the Huskies played MUCH better in every other post-season game, and at times were a true thing of beauty to watch. Geno got outcoached last night and still coulda (nearly shoulda) won. The two late missed calls did make a difference ; not to call the flagrant would have been inexcusable, given the clear rule.

Oh well, hoping for a couple of (good) roster changes in the coming weeks back on topic.
 
TRest said:
Ching shows why she's usually on the bench
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Bad decision, but pretty harsh post don't you think. Chong is a starter and finally came into her own this year, so maybe cut her some slack here. That play wasn't what cost them game, it was the result of a number of missed opportunities and a great game by MSU.
 
Not a great week for the UC Athletic Dept. !
Mississippi deserved to win.
 
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Now I never watch a women's game, so someone clarify for me.

How in the hell does UConn look so confused in the last 5 minutes of regulation + OT? Is this the first time they've sniffed a close game with an opponent that throws punches?
 
Yep, they didn't play well or smart last night. Haven't seem this team take so many bad shots and poor clock management.
 
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Fishy said:
They just didn't play well last night - they were out of sorts from the tip.

God help the country next year, though. It's going to be ugly.
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More like the next three years.
 
uconnfan68 said:
You think he is supposed to change in between games?
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You're think he's not? He'd already shown a Stanford t-shirt beneath his UConn hoodie in the previous game when he was changing cities. Or what if he'd started the day with a UConn hat so he needn't have changed it for the later game? And what if he were asked about doing so and offered that the higher seed should have gotten the earlier game in order for the winner to watch their prospective opponent in the next game?

Bad mojo.
 
Fishy said:
They just didn't play well last night - they were out of sorts from the tip.

God help the country next year, though. It's going to be ugly.
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Geno's growing edge: overtime games. What kind of practice regimen can he devise to prepare for them?
 
Ok, I don't really care about the women's team much, but I do watch from time to time. What REALLY lost them the game last night was Geno sitting Dangerfield the entire 4th quarter. She was the only one that could stick with MSU's little PG. When she started and played most of the 3rd quarter UConn dominated them (she penetrated and created opportunities for others at will). I was kind of shocked she sat, what I believe if my memory is correct, for the entire 4th quarter.
 
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What gets me is UConn get more ratings for ESPN in a loss than BC makes for ESPN in all sports for an entire year yet here we are being blackballed from major conferences by a company in our own state
 
Geno came up with a whole bunch of curious plays and decisions
Not his best night
 
Scoe said:
The perception is this is an upset, which yeah it is because its Uconn, in reality is this a huge upset, it was a young Uconn team, its not like they had Stewie on the team.
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No, our team exceeded even UConn's fans (and Geno's) expectations. Let someone else enjoy a title. Glad it's Mississippi State and South Carolina. Both schools have been starved to win.

This "huge upset" stuff is all media hype.
 
Scoe said:
The perception is this is an upset, which yeah it is because its Uconn, in reality is this a huge upset, it was a young Uconn team, its not like they had Stewie on the team.
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Miss State is ranked #4. There are articles that made it sound like some Div II team beat UConn. And, yeah, they're young. Geno said on one of the HBO shows that this team isn't mean enough. Hopefully they're pissed off enough to have some mean next year.
 
Olliewood216 said:
Ok, I don't really care about the women's team much, but I do watch from time to time. What REALLY lost them the game last night was Geno sitting Dangerfield the entire 4th quarter. She was the only one that could stick with MSU's little PG. When she started and played most of the 3rd quarter UConn dominated them (she penetrated and created opportunities for others at will). I was kind of shocked she sat, what I believe if my memory is correct, for the entire 4th quarter.
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That's exaclty what I was wondering the whole time, where is Dangerfield? Also find it strange that pretty much everyone on the women's board is okay with Chong driving the lane with 13 seconds left in a tie game. Geno also said he was okay with Chong doing that because she was trying to make a play. I understand he is probably trying to take heat off her but Geno also says he never wants to bring the clock down to the end for a shot. I can understand wanting enough time to get a tip in at the end off a missed shot but explaining away Chong's play is impossible. It is the worst possible basketball play you could possibly make.

Sounds crazy to criticize anything about Geno but their losses in tight games always leave me scratching my head. It only seems to happen once every couple of years but the tight games are his achilles heel.
 
Olliewood216 said:
Ok, I don't really care about the women's team much, but I do watch from time to time. What REALLY lost them the game last night was Geno sitting Dangerfield the entire 4th quarter. She was the only one that could stick with MSU's little PG. When she started and played most of the 3rd quarter UConn dominated them (she penetrated and created opportunities for others at will). I was kind of shocked she sat, what I believe if my memory is correct, for the entire 4th quarter.
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Crystal played 17 minutes, took one shot - and missed - had one assist and two turnovers. Saniya's defense was better and she put up 10 points and had to be defended. Miss State sagged off Crystal because she wasn't thinking offense which meant someone else was double-teamed.
 
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Butch said:
No, our team exceeded even UConn's fans (and Geno's) expectations. Let someone else enjoy a title. Glad it's Mississippi State and South Carolina. Both schools have been starved to win.

This "huge upset" stuff is all media hype.
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Exactly my point.
 
Guy, UConn was -6000 on the money line. It was a huge f in upset.

The flagrant at the end of the first overtime is one of the worst calls I've ever seen. I don't even think it was a common foul. The contact had nothing to do with the play and the women sold the living hell out of it.

UConn is not bad for the sport but the power imbalance that exists is. The fact that people ITT are already adamant that they won't lose the next two seasons is exhibit A. We need more games like last night.
 
MSU was much more physical. Uconn also didn't get many gimme layups or wide open 3' s that they always get.
MSU was tougher and better.
All that being said Uconn got the game to OT and could have won.
 
champs99and04 said:
Guy, UConn was -6000 on the money line. It was a huge f in upset.

The flagrant at the end of the first overtime is one of the worst calls I've ever seen. I don't even think it was a common foul. The contact had nothing to do with the play and the women sold the living hell out of it.

UConn is not bad for the sport but the power imbalance that exists is. The fact that people ITT are already adamant that they won't lose the next two seasons is exhibit A. We need more games like last night.
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No, it was the correct call based on the new rule, and I'm surprised at how many people keep ignoring this point. The rule is horrendous and needs to be changed immediately, but they've been calling contact to the face a flagrant all year.

Whether it was an acting job or not, it was definitely a common foul. Not sure what you're talking about there.
 
UConn990411 said:
No, it was the correct call based on the new rule, and I'm surprised at how many people keep ignoring this point. The rule is horrendous and needs to be changed immediately, but they've been calling contact to the face a flagrant all year.

Whether it was an acting job or not, it was definitely a common foul. Not sure what you're talking about there.
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Sure, it was the correct call based on the rule. But if you called everything based on the rule you would have a holding call on every play in football. Different sport, I know, but the first step to being a good official is acknowledging that you're not going to see everything. I'm more concerned about the contact that directly impedes the action - on that play last night, the tipped pass and contact occurred on separate continuum's, so while there was obviously enough contact to justify a foul call on that play, it is my opinion that incidental contact away from the play should never be called, I don't care if somebody is decapitated.
 
champs99and04 said:
Sure, it was the correct call based on the rule. But if you called everything based on the rule you would have a holding call on every play in football. Different sport, I know, but the first step to being a good official is acknowledging that you're not going to see everything. I'm more concerned about the contact that directly impedes the action - on that play last night, the tipped pass and contact occurred on separate continuum's, so while there was obviously enough contact to justify a foul call on that play, it is my opinion that incidental contact away from the play should never be called, I don't care if somebody is decapitated.
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Again, I hate, hate, HATE the rule, but it's been called that way all season. I'm all for letting 50-50 calls go down the stretch, but I don't agree with the mindset that the rule book should be thrown out the window entirely.

With that said, I think we can all agree that the rule needs to be modified in the offseason. Which means they'll probably change it to call even more flagrants...
 
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