OT: Rock and Roll lead singers

[8893]

Yeah probably thought they weren’t cool but you still sing along with it.

Wow I had never heard the song nor obviously seen the video before. Both great.

Which brings to mind one of the most criminally underrated bands of all time: NRBQ. Big Al was a genius with an embarrassment of riches in terms of musical talent, as that tune shows; but I’ve been amazed at Terry’s ability to keep it going with new guys who are legitimately equal to the task.

 

[August_West]

Yo, @August_West... as StupendousJuanita is on your payroll, please give him a bigger draw so he can afford better writers. This material isn't even good enough for Reddit, let alone the BY.

He’s gotta work on his branding

 

[Madmannsucks]

On a serious note, Dion who rocked the 60's, and made us think in 68(I was 13)....had some lean years. In the 2000's he released a couple blues albums, Bronx in Blue, Son of Skip James and Tank Full of Blues, which I urge you to give a listen...he's still got it.

 

[storrsroars]

That’s a bridge too far for me, and I know I’m on record as citing that as my vote for worst song of all time. But that has always been in the context of a response to the question of worst songs, or if directly confronted with the song itself.

The bottom line is that we can’t help whatever is wired into our musical DNA. I just read an article an hour ago in today’s NYT that was a condensed interview with Stephen Malkmus, formerly of Pavement, a 90’s band I really liked (still do actually), and he was talking about his love of the Carpenters and Captain & Tennille because it was on the radio so much during his formative years and reminded him of that time. He’s a year younger than me, and I was thinking the same thing as I was reading it. I don’t own any of their music (unless I still have them among my old 45s) and haven’t listened to it consciously in decades, but I still know it by heart and wouldn’t turn them off if they came on the 70s station, which is on my second screen of Sirius presets.

Back when there was only AM radio and even the biggest media market only had two stations playing rock n roll (WABC & WMCA), I could see this. But once FM was established and you could switch from WNEW to WPLJ to WCBS (before it was oldies) and later WLIR, then 2-3 college stations like WFUV, there was no reason to put up with schmaltzy stuff or anything else you really didn't like. Or top 40, for that matter.

My issue was the damn vans at the Stamford Advocate mostly only had AM radios. So I would spend most of my shift delivering papers avoiding Tony Orlando. Which was harder than you'd think.

And the Carpenters completely ruined "Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft", which is in my top 5 for best use of a song by a TV show.



Thinking about starting a thread on late 60s/70s FM radio, specifically WNEW-FM. It was a great time for radio, maybe the best time ever. DJs with freeform playlists acting as curators did so in a way that Pandora, et.al. just can't duplicate. I got most of my musical education from Scott Muni, Vin Scelsa, Dave Herman, Alison Steele and co.

 

[August_West]

That’s a bridge too far for me, and I know I’m on record as citing that as my vote for worst song of all time. But that has always been in the context of a response to the question of worst songs, or if directly confronted with the song itself.

The bottom line is that we can’t help whatever is wired into our musical DNA. I just read an article an hour ago in today’s NYT that was a condensed interview with Stephen Malkmus, formerly of Pavement, a 90’s band I really liked (still do actually), and he was talking about his love of the Carpenters and Captain & Tennille because it was on the radio so much during his formative years and reminded him of that time. He’s a year younger than me, and I was thinking the same thing as I was reading it. I don’t own any of their music (unless I still have them among my old 45s) and haven’t listened to it consciously in decades, but I still know it by heart and wouldn’t turn them off if they came on the 70s station, which is on my second screen of Sirius presets.

I like the jicks even better than pavement.

 

[storrsroars]

Wow I had never heard the song nor obviously seen the video before. Both great.

Which brings to mind one of the most criminally underrated bands of all time: NRBQ. Big Al was a genius with an embarrassment of riches in terms of musical talent, as that tune shows; but I’ve been amazed at Terry’s ability to keep it going with new guys who are legitimately equal to the task.

50 years of crowds who only want to hear "RC Cola and a Moonpie". Have to admire the perserverance.

I feel bad for UConn alumni who came after Shaboo burned down.

 

[storrsroars]

I like the jicks even better than pavement.

Hipster.

 

[August_West]

Hipster.

Nope.

 

[storrsroars]

Nope.

They're from Portland and they opened for Radiohead. Case closed.

 

[storrsroars]

Varg Vikernes, how's THAT for hip?

I had to look that up. Sounds like Varg could be the house band for Breitbart.

 

[August_West]

They're from Portland and they opened for Radiohead. Case closed.

What do I care. They are jammier than pavement. That’s my wheelhouse. Nothing more nothing less.

Malkmus loves Jerry btw. Because he’s not tied into being a hipster and recognizes genius for genius.

 

[storrsroars]

Malkmus loves Jerry btw. Because he’s not tied into being a hipster and recognizes genius for genius.

I have no idea what you're arguing.

Ray Davies is a genius. I like Ray Davies. I guess that eliminates me from hipsterdom.

 

[8893]

I like the jicks even better than pavement.

I keep trying and hoping but I’m not there yet. But I do like them. Pavement just blew my mind at the time. Oysters and Dry Lancers’? Who thinks of that stuff?

I discovered them at Brighten the Corners and worked my way backwards through their catalogue. Mostly brilliant.

 

[superjohn]

What do I care. They are jammier than pavement. That’s my wheelhouse. Nothing more nothing less.

Malkmus loves Jerry btw. Because he’s not tied into being a hipster and recognizes genius for genius.

storrs really needs to stop caring about trying to be cool. He's like 50 years too old for that.

 

[August_West]

storrs really needs to stop caring about trying to be cool. He's like 50 years too old for that.

I know his ilk. They were a few years ahead of me in the 80’s, too cool for school.

 

[storrsroars]

storrs really needs to stop caring about trying to be cool. He's like 50 years too old for that.

That's why it's effortless.

Do or do not. There is no try.

 

[Madmannsucks]

Give this a listen.

 

[storrsroars]

Nope, you’re the guy who always tries too hard to seem unconventional and edgy.

You drinking a PBR in that fedora brah?

You liked my protest song posts though. Non-mainstream black guys not found on radio. So what's that make you?

Saw Gil-Scott Heron at Jorgensen back in mid-70s. Didn't even pull in a full house. Great show though.

 

[UConnWingman]

Echo the love for Ray Davies.

Oh and the new Malkmus & the Jicks LP is really freakin good. Looking forward to seeing them next month at the Black Cat in DC.

 

[8893]

You liked my protest song posts though. Non-mainstream black guys not found on radio. So what's that make you?

Saw Gil-Scott Heron at Jorgensen back in mid-70s. Didn't even pull in a full house. Great show though.

It makes me someone who likes those songs, both of which I have heard on the radio frequently (usually on the Loft on Sirius).

I knew of GSH long before I had Sirius though.

I don't need to wear their obscurity as a cred badge in order to like them.

 

[Rico444]

Is that what you were listening to when you had your first period?

A few pages ago, you trashed Axl Rose for being a "racist, mysoginstic ," if I recall your exact words correctly. This is now the 2nd time you've insulted people that like CMW by calling them little girls.

lol

 

[browndog319]

Springsteen hasn't written anything worth listening to since The Rising. Thankfully Patti let him start doing Rosalita again a few years back because without that and Jungleland, his concerts would be a total bore.

/hottake

Patti should shut up and be glad he lets her do her two stupid songs at each show although I’m grateful for the chance to go to the bathroom and get a beer.
I’ll agree with the nothing great since The Rising (which is an amazing album). However, Badlands, Thunder Road, and Born To Run are unbelievable life. In fact, Born to Run is the penultimate live song.
Throw in some shows where he does some Out In the Streets, Dancing In The Dark, Glory Days, you have yourself a memorable show.

 

[browndog319]

I disagree While a lot of Springsteen's newer material is not his best work imo, he's still pretty damn great in concert and plays many of his best songs. The band is tight, each show is different, and no one expends more energy on stage than Bruce. Amazing at his age.


Sound very much like you are "one of the critics"

Bruce live is such an experience. I got to see him on his birthday at MetLife stadium (in NJ!) in 2012. He had paid the stadium concession workers to work late that night so people could keep buying drinks bc he was going to do an extra long show. The stadium was evacuated because of bad storms. After it was safe, he still did close to 4 hours. When it was midnight, his mother came out and it got even more lively - he kept saying “did I tell you it’s my birthday???”
One of the most fun and amazing concerts I’ve been to and I’ve been to 100s. Close to 1000.
I will always see a Springsteen show.

 

[UConnWingman]

It makes me someone who likes those songs, both of which I have heard on the radio frequently (usually on the Loft on Sirius).

I knew of GSH long before I had Sirius though.

I don't need to wear their obscurity as a cred badge in order to like them.

I’d consider myself a music snob (though I don’t care to get into any back and forth on the subject)...Is it just me or has SiriusXM gone more mainstream with all these dedicated stations (albeit temporary): The Eagles? Billy Joel? Lynyrd Skynyrd? I get why the Grateful Dead and the Beatles have their own stations...But I start to struggle with Bruce getting his own, and I laugh at the notion Pearl Jam deserves their own station. Petty’s a little different: he put in hundreds (if not thousands) of hours DJ’ing playlists that are worthy of airplay. He’s passed on into iconic with his, well...passing. Jimmy Buffet I suppose represents a state of mind (summed up best by the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band... “And dream Jamaica is a big neon sign...”), so that makes sense...But back to the top: The Eagles? Billy Joel? Lynyrd Skynyrd?

Oh and the opportunity cost of this new #30 station (where they’re presumably going to beat a singular band’s music into your brain non-stop)? That’s the channel the Loft was on.

 

[August_West]

 

[browndog319]

I’d consider myself a music snob (though I don’t care to get into any back and forth on the subject)...Is it just me or has SiriusXM gone more mainstream with all these dedicated stations (albeit temporary): The Eagles? Billy Joel? Lynyrd Skynyrd? I get why the Grateful Dead and the Beatles have their own stations...But I start to struggle with Bruce getting his own, and I laugh at the notion Pearl Jam deserves their own station. Petty’s a little different: he put in hundreds (if not thousands) of hours DJ’ing playlists that are worthy of airplay. He’s passed on into iconic with his, well...passing. Jimmy Buffet I suppose represents a state of mind (summed up best by the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band... “And dream Jamaica is a big neon sign...”), so that makes sense...But back to the top: The Eagles? Billy Joel? Lynyrd Skynyrd?

Oh and the opportunity cost of this new #30 station (where they’re presumably going to beat a singular band’s music into your brain non-stop)? That’s the channel the Loft was on.

Listen to E street radio. They have shows of covers of Bruce songs. They have celebrity DJs who do shows where they get to “Be the Boss” and talk about why certain songs are their favorites. And regular people too. They play whole concerts live. I love the channel.

 

[UConnWingman]

Listen to E street radio. They have shows of covers of Bruce songs. They have celebrity DJs who do shows where they get to “Be the Boss” and talk about why certain songs are their favorites. And regular people too. They play whole concerts live. I love the channel.

Yeah. I was probably came down a little hard on 'E Street Radio', and it's for the reasons you mentioned.

 

[8893]

I’d consider myself a music snob (though I don’t care to get into any back and forth on the subject)...Is it just me or has SiriusXM gone more mainstream with all these dedicated stations (albeit temporary): The Eagles? Billy Joel? Lynyrd Skynyrd? I get why the Grateful Dead and the Beatles have their own stations...But I start to struggle with Bruce getting his own, and I laugh at the notion Pearl Jam deserves their own station. Petty’s a little different: he put in hundreds (if not thousands) of hours DJ’ing playlists that are worthy of airplay. He’s passed on into iconic with his, well...passing. Jimmy Buffet I suppose represents a state of mind (summed up best by the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band... “And dream Jamaica is a big neon sign...”), so that makes sense...But back to the top: The Eagles? Billy Joel? Lynyrd Skynyrd?

Oh and the opportunity cost of this new #30 station (where they’re presumably going to beat a singular band’s music into your brain non-stop)? That’s the channel the Loft was on.

I'm actually still in somewhat of a depression about how badly they have screwed up by shuttling the Loft for all these limited run artist-specific stations. I was so happy when I discovered that station because my tastes are very eclectic and I love having similarly-but-differently-minded DJs curate the selections in the moment, talk about the music--and the times--from the heart, and basically do what the great DJs I grew up with used to do. It's a sin that they have relegated Meg Griffin to the Spectrum, which plays the same dozen songs to death every single day. And the limited run, artist-specific stations are the exact opposite of what the Loft was.

The only thing I can surmise is that many if not most of the Loft listeners are, like me, not on social media and therefore not letting their voices be heard. I have been thinking about dropping Sirius now that it looks like the Loft will be forever banished to streaming only, and no longer has Meg's show in the afternoons.

 

[browndog319]

I'm actually still in somewhat of a depression about how badly they have screwed up by shuttling the Loft for all these limited run artist-specific stations. I was so happy when I discovered that station because my tastes are very eclectic and I love having similarly-but-differently-minded DJs curate the selections in the moment, talk about the music--and the times--from the heart, and basically do what the great DJs I grew up with used to do. It's a sin that they have relegated Meg Griffin to the Spectrum, which plays the same dozen songs to death every single day. And the limited run, artist-specific stations are the exact opposite of what the Loft was.

The only thing I can surmise is that many if not most of the Loft listeners are, like me, not on social media and therefore not letting their voices be heard. I have been thinking about dropping Sirius now that it looks like the Loft will be forever banished to streaming only, and no longer has Meg's show in the afternoons.

I think some of the special audiences are not needed... the Loft was very good but E street radio is also great. Do we need a traffic station for every metro area when we have Waze?
I think there is a way to have content everyone loves without bashing others...

 

[browndog319]

Yeah. I was probably came down a little hard on 'E Street Radio', and it's for the reasons you mentioned.

Too funny... I loved the show when the drummer from jeez, John Cougar Mellancamp’s band, talked about which songs he loved from a drumming perspective. I am trying to learn to drum which is hard... and he had so many insightful things that he pointed out and made you appreciate why songs you never realized were that complex from a percussion perspective were. So intellectually it’s pretty cool.