OT: Providence

[Rocktheworld]

@HeGotGame

Old news, do better. Another 5* though taking an official to little old PC. That’s a new phenomenon this year.

Hey, you guys have as good a shot as anyone

 

[Deleted at users request]

He hadn’t tweeted in a month but somehow managed this yesterday. Enough bad can’t happen to this guy Saturday.

https://x.com/HoyaCoachCooley/status/1750230567952531870?s=20

You’re upset because he… showed love to his former Providence players before visiting?

 

[Captbluefin]

F&uk Cooley… Was always a Grasshole.

 

[Deleted at users request]

four decades ago? They were in the Final Four in 2007 and made NCAA tournament appearances in 1990, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 2001, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2021 (wikipedia)

I think Otto Porter Jr was POY and a top 3 pick as early as 2012. Georgetown hasn’t been bad for all that long lol

 

[Inyatkin]

I guess it's mainly the result of like two posters who spend a lot of time here, but it's still remarkable how much attention is spent on a UConn board about a sort-of rival that rarely wins much of anything.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

four decades ago? They were in the Final Four in 2007 and made NCAA tournament appearances in 1990, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 2001, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2021 (wikipedia)

What I was referring to was the dominance they had early to mid 1980's the aura that surrounded the program at that time and the allure it had for (then it was Dunbar) top HS recruits.

Yes, they had success outside of that period but they never recaptured the image.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

four decades ago? They were in the Final Four in 2007 and made NCAA tournament appearances in 1990, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 2001, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2021 (wikipedia)

I know quite a few Georgetown alums. Not one of them could give less of an F about Georgetown basketball and they were all there in some pretty good years. I just do not believe the alumni support is there to bring it back to where it was.

 

[CL82]

Reading is fundamental. Emphasis on mental for you. He said, "no one worth their salt", you now can figure out the rest.

Yeah, he said no one worth their salt would want to coach at Providence.

 

[FriarJ]

You’re upset because he… showed love to his former Providence players before visiting?

no, its the two words at the top. You don't get it, believe me we do.

 

[ucp990411]

I’m not sure what your point is here.

A good recruit is visiting your school and you’re at another schools message board bragging about that?

Geez, maybe he actually thinks we are decent fans of hoop and he is looking for some of that and he doesn’t get it on the PC message boards. I for one find him to be a good poster. He has admitted he wishes they had what we have.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I guess it's mainly the result of like two posters who spend a lot of time here, but it's still remarkable how much attention is spent on a UConn board about a sort-of rival that rarely wins much of anything.

Maybe I'm an outlier here but that's what makes regional rivalries fun. It doesn't matter if both teams are ranked in the Top 5 or Final Four hopefuls or whatever. The whole proverbial "throw out the record books with this one" sort of thing.

 

[uconnfan68]

Reading is fundamental. Emphasis on mental for you. He said, "no one worth their salt", you now can figure out the rest.

RIF exactly. He said “coach”, which the visiting player isn’t going to do.

 

[FriarJ]

RIF exactly. He said “coach”, which the visiting player isn’t going to do.

Glad to see your are still kicking, my old "friend"

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

I'm beyond sick and tired of PC fans whining about this. They lost a coach, that happens. They aren't the first school that this happened to and the won't be the last.

I remember when Michigan, with a team capable of making a very deep run in the tournament, discovered days before the tournament began that their head coach was negotiating with another school (to the point where an agreement had been reached and an announcement would be made once Michigan's season was over) to become their head coach. Did they whine? No! They fired the culprit before the tournament began and went on to win the whole thing.

So he had an illicit affair. If this offense is that egregious they should have fired him for it, not whine about it happening and then cry about the role that played in his departure. I remember when Arkansas fired their head football coach once an illicit affair that he was involved in was discovered.

He misled them about his looking to leave. I remember when Cincinnati's head football coach, shortly before a bowl game in what was then their best season ever responded "It's silly season. Don't listen to the noise" when asked if he was interviewing with Notre Dame.

Hell, even schools at the top of the food chain aren't immune to things like this. Michigan just lost their head football coach to the NFL. When Miami was a cut above everyone else in college football they lost their head coach to the NFL three different times (Johnson, Ericson and Davis) and fourth (Schnellenberger) that thought he had an NFL job waiting for him.

Did they apologize to Fairfield for taking Cooley? To GM for taking English? Hell, every head coach comes from somewhere and it's normally at another school's expense.

They need to get over it.

Pretty thorough post, enough for me to doubt that your omitting that this was the first intra-conference coaching switch in the Big East's 40+ year history was mere oversight.

To close with what "they need to" do? How is that your call to make?

Besides, it needn't be an either/or situation anyway. Why not think poorly of Cooley & wish him a period of stinging consequences for unseemly behavior AND think that Providence fans' reactions reflect poorly on them & confirm their place in the pecking order?

Cooley did what he felt was right for him and PC fans are doing what they feel is right for them. Things will sort themselves out. In the meantime, let the good times roll.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

That was at the point where many people thought Calhoun couldn’t get over the top. There was talk of trying to replace him with Tom Penders a few years earlier. That had mostly died down by 1998, as had Penders’ career. But I imagine many people would have said “Good. Now we can bring in the guy to take the final step.” By the way, at that time a Final Four was the big step, not a National Championship. He had also been much more successful than Cooley FWIW.

Hey, look at you, third post has some charm...and a measure of validity. I keep wondering when you're going to get poached and move up to a more fitting conference and deserving fanbase. On the meantime, I count my blessings that you're here.

 

[Deleted at users request]

no, its the two words at the top. You don't get it, believe me we do.

He said Family Forever… maybe saying that Providence will always be his family no matter what?

Do Providence fans really think Cooley hates Providence and intentionally wants to burn bridges? Has he done anything to do that outside of you all trying to twist his public comments to be shots?

 

[ecasadoSBU]

I'm beyond sick and tired of PC fans whining about this. They lost a coach, that happens. They aren't the first school that this happened to and the won't be the last.

I remember when Michigan, with a team capable of making a very deep run in the tournament, discovered days before the tournament began that their head coach was negotiating with another school (to the point where an agreement had been reached and an announcement would be made once Michigan's season was over) to become their head coach. Did they whine? No! They fired the culprit before the tournament began and went on to win the whole thing.

So he had an illicit affair. If this offense is that egregious they should have fired him for it, not whine about it happening and then cry about the role that played in his departure. I remember when Arkansas fired their head football coach once an illicit affair that he was involved in was discovered.

He misled them about his looking to leave. I remember when Cincinnati's head football coach, shortly before a bowl game in what was then their best season ever responded "It's silly season. Don't listen to the noise" when asked if he was interviewing with Notre Dame.

Hell, even schools at the top of the food chain aren't immune to things like this. Michigan just lost their head football coach to the NFL. When Miami was a cut above everyone else in college football they lost their head coach to the NFL three different times (Johnson, Ericson and Davis) and fourth (Schnellenberger) that thought he had an NFL job waiting for him.

Did they apologize to Fairfield for taking Cooley? To GM for taking English? Hell, every head coach comes from somewhere and it's normally at another school's expense.

They need to get over it.

Taking it too serious ma man...

Hatred and anger makes for good and exciting entertainment. I wouldn't watch the game tomorrow if it wasn't just to find out how the Providence crowd reacts to Cooley. See? it's fun!

Don't kill the vibes!

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Yes, Georgetown has a significant amount of potential for many reasons. Anyone who can’t see that has to take off their NE blinders.

Are they bad now? Of course after a decade of losing. But Cooley will have a lot more juice building that back into a Sweet 16 program than he did doing it for Providence for all the reasons you stated.

The basketball program you’re referring to is ‘Basketball County: In The Water’

Basketball County: In the Water (2020) ⭐ 6.6 | Documentary, Sport

1h | TV-MA

m.imdb.com

Thx for the link re PG County. I'll look to stream it.

I appreciate what you wrote about DC's market distinction from Providence for Cooley, and his historical connection to John Thompson gives it some background. That said, my preference today would be for him to fail if it reveals that he's not all that good, or succeed if he is that good...but not before he takes some knocks for being smarmy in pursuing his ambition.

@UConnSwag11 's post that joked about Kim English landing at Georgetown if he succeeds at Providence made me chuckle. There's now established precedent.

 

[willie99]

Ed was overrated. Look at his record.

He was good enough for PC, and now Georgetown

If Sweet 16 is his ceiling, he's overrated

 

[CL82]

Geez, maybe he actually thinks we are decent fans of hoop and he is looking for some of that and he doesn’t get it on the PC message boards. I for one find him to be a good poster. He has admitted he wishes they had what we have.

Or maybe he's desperately looking for validation after having his team's longstanding coach dump them for one of the worst two teams in the conference?

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Taking it too serious ma man...

Hatred and anger makes for good and exciting entertainment. I wouldn't watch the game tomorrow if it wasn't just to find out how the Providence crowd reacts to Cooley. See? it's fun!

Don't kill the vibes!

I'm not sure I'm the one taking things too seriously.

I will simplify things a bit:

1 - Has there been a past occurrence of a coach departing a school that has led to a reaction somewhat similar to how PC fans have reacted (and continue to react) to this one?

2 - What was so uniquely and excessively over the line (when compared to all other coaching departures) about this one case that warrants the fan base's reaction?

 

[Icehawk]

this was the first intra-conference coaching switch in the Big East's 40+ year history

Whoa, really? Cooley handled this all so poorly. It will be interesting to see what happens at PC and GT over the next few years. Looking forward to this weekend's games!

 

[freescooter]

What I was referring to was the dominance they had early to mid 1980's the aura that surrounded the program at that time and the allure it had for (then it was Dunbar) top HS recruits.

Yes, they had success outside of that period but they never recaptured the image.

You mean the era when they won One championship, right?

 

[BGesus4]

https://x.com/TiptonEdits/status/1750898269012504746?s=20

I think this is the point. You guys are hanging banners for sweet 16s and official visits.

 

[NJHoops]

Providence fans mad? Cooley going to have a bad weekend? I love it all.

 

[gsmooth]

You mean the era when they won One championship, right?

3 national title game appearances including that one championship. That's a good era of dominance in a 4-year span.

1 championship is a great accomplishment. A Final Four is a great accomplishment. There are so many schools and coaches that have tried so hard in vain to even accomplish those goals.

 

[Huskybass]

Ed was overrated. Look at his record.

3 NCAA tournament wins in 17 seasons. He isn't the answer. At some point you are what your record says you are.

 

[Inyatkin]

Maybe I'm an outlier here but that's what makes regional rivalries fun. It doesn't matter if both teams are ranked in the Top 5 or Final Four hopefuls or whatever. The whole proverbial "throw out the record books with this one" sort of thing.

I guess, but this is page after page about purely Providence internal drama. It's not about us facing them, just about why they're sad

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I guess, but this is page after page about purely Providence internal drama. It's not about us facing them, just about why they're sad

Well, for whatever reason, we have a very vocal Providence fan who feels compelled to respond to every PC-related post that most of us probably just ignore.

 

[JohnnyJr]

I guess it's mainly the result of like two posters who spend a lot of time here, but it's still remarkable how much attention is spent on a UConn board about a sort-of rival that rarely wins much of anything.

And people jump down your throat if you talk about next years roster but 100 posts about providence nonsense is fine