OT: Providence

[Kolumbo]

Makes you really wonder what his next job will be.

^ Bryant

Georgetown sucks but I would really like to see what is happening at their practices this week. I'd imagine there is pain in that gym.
Georgetown has beaten nobody. They even lost to syracuse for pete's sake. I think Cooley will turn that program around once he has a chance to recruit and to portal, and it will take time. But anything can happen and I would expect a bloody brawl tomorrow in providence.

 

[CL82]

This is a big part of it. In the 1950-70s Providence was a national player. The only real one in New England. They won an NIT when the NIT was the more important tournament, played major schools, not only local ones. In many ways the Big East caused PC to lose their place in the northeast pecking order. Instead of being the Big Fish in New England, they were just another fish in the Big East and never really could get to the top.

They are a stepping stone program and likely will always be one. That’s true of PC. It’s true of most NEWBIE programs. Willard just left the Hall, where he was remarkably ordinary, to take Maryland. Most NEWBIE programs don’t have the money to compete if it comes down to that with the major conferences. Guys who have some level of success are going to get offers and most NOOBS won’t be able to match. There is a reason why last year the Jonnies, Butler and Xavier all hired old guys, 2 with ethical issues, who were unattractive to power programs.

FWIW, I was sure there would be 20 pages decrying the reference to the NEWBIE as a mid-major! LOL

 

[CL82]

Bryant

Well, sure, if he gets the opportunity. You can't fault a Coach for trying to move up.

 

[bballerct50]

I’m afraid he is going to start poaching more of our players at Gtown. Corey Floyd at PC. Who’s next? Andre Johnson Junior?

 

[Deepster]

LOL. He’s also visiting Indiana and Kansas and let’s be honest. Your best recruiting pitch right now is “you get to play UConn twice a year”. Good luck.

 

[freescooter]

Imagine in 1998 if Calhoun was poached by Syracuse midway thru the season, tanking the team, then left high and dry after lying that he was staying.

I feel for PC on this one. I’m angry with them.

That was at the point where many people thought Calhoun couldn’t get over the top. There was talk of trying to replace him with Tom Penders a few years earlier. That had mostly died down by 1998, as had Penders’ career. But I imagine many people would have said “Good. Now we can bring in the guy to take the final step.” By the way, at that time a Final Four was the big step, not a National Championship. He had also been much more successful than Cooley FWIW.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

He had to coach Jared Bynum. Was too much to handle

Hey now, he was 2nd team All Big East

 

[Rocktheworld]

I'm beyond sick and tired of PC fans whining about this. They lost a coach, that happens. They aren't the first school that this happened to and the won't be the last.

I remember when Michigan, with a team capable of making a very deep run in the tournament, discovered days before the tournament began that their head coach was negotiating with another school (to the point where an agreement had been reached and an announcement would be made once Michigan's season was over) to become their head coach. Did they whine? No! They fired the culprit before the tournament began and went on to win the whole thing.

So he had an illicit affair. If this offense is that egregious they should have fired him for it, not whine about it happening and then cry about the role that played in his departure. I remember when Arkansas fired their head football coach once an illicit affair that he was involved in was discovered.

He misled them about his looking to leave. I remember when Cincinnati's head football coach, shortly before a bowl game in what was then their best season ever responded "It's silly season. Don't listen to the noise" when asked if he was interviewing with Notre Dame.

Hell, even schools at the top of the food chain aren't immune to things like this. Michigan just lost their head football coach to the NFL. When Miami was a cut above everyone else in college football they lost their head coach to the NFL three different times (Johnson, Ericson and Davis) and fourth (Schnellenberger) that thought he had an NFL job waiting for him.

Did they apologize to Fairfield for taking Cooley? To GM for taking English? Hell, every head coach comes from somewhere and it's normally at another school's expense.

They need to get over it.

Their panties get twisted over their alleged ownership to the rights to a Taylor Swift song. It’s a fan base of snowflakes.

 

[gsmooth]

Makes you really wonder what his next job will be.

Ouch, damn.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Hey, you guys have as good a shot as anyone

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

You’re upset because he… showed love to his former Providence players before visiting?

 

[Captbluefin]

F&uk Cooley… Was always a Grasshole.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

four decades ago? They were in the Final Four in 2007 and made NCAA tournament appearances in 1990, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 2001, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2021 (wikipedia)

I think Otto Porter Jr was POY and a top 3 pick as early as 2012. Georgetown hasn’t been bad for all that long lol

 

[Inyatkin]

I guess it's mainly the result of like two posters who spend a lot of time here, but it's still remarkable how much attention is spent on a UConn board about a sort-of rival that rarely wins much of anything.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

four decades ago? They were in the Final Four in 2007 and made NCAA tournament appearances in 1990, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 2001, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2021 (wikipedia)

What I was referring to was the dominance they had early to mid 1980's the aura that surrounded the program at that time and the allure it had for (then it was Dunbar) top HS recruits.

Yes, they had success outside of that period but they never recaptured the image.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

four decades ago? They were in the Final Four in 2007 and made NCAA tournament appearances in 1990, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 2001, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2021 (wikipedia)

I know quite a few Georgetown alums. Not one of them could give less of an F about Georgetown basketball and they were all there in some pretty good years. I just do not believe the alumni support is there to bring it back to where it was.

 

[CL82]

Yeah, he said no one worth their salt would want to coach at Providence.

 

[ucp990411]

I’m not sure what your point is here.

A good recruit is visiting your school and you’re at another schools message board bragging about that?

Geez, maybe he actually thinks we are decent fans of hoop and he is looking for some of that and he doesn’t get it on the PC message boards. I for one find him to be a good poster. He has admitted he wishes they had what we have.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I guess it's mainly the result of like two posters who spend a lot of time here, but it's still remarkable how much attention is spent on a UConn board about a sort-of rival that rarely wins much of anything.

Maybe I'm an outlier here but that's what makes regional rivalries fun. It doesn't matter if both teams are ranked in the Top 5 or Final Four hopefuls or whatever. The whole proverbial "throw out the record books with this one" sort of thing.

 

[uconnfan68]

RIF exactly. He said “coach”, which the visiting player isn’t going to do.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

I'm beyond sick and tired of PC fans whining about this. They lost a coach, that happens. They aren't the first school that this happened to and the won't be the last.

I remember when Michigan, with a team capable of making a very deep run in the tournament, discovered days before the tournament began that their head coach was negotiating with another school (to the point where an agreement had been reached and an announcement would be made once Michigan's season was over) to become their head coach. Did they whine? No! They fired the culprit before the tournament began and went on to win the whole thing.

So he had an illicit affair. If this offense is that egregious they should have fired him for it, not whine about it happening and then cry about the role that played in his departure. I remember when Arkansas fired their head football coach once an illicit affair that he was involved in was discovered.

He misled them about his looking to leave. I remember when Cincinnati's head football coach, shortly before a bowl game in what was then their best season ever responded "It's silly season. Don't listen to the noise" when asked if he was interviewing with Notre Dame.

Hell, even schools at the top of the food chain aren't immune to things like this. Michigan just lost their head football coach to the NFL. When Miami was a cut above everyone else in college football they lost their head coach to the NFL three different times (Johnson, Ericson and Davis) and fourth (Schnellenberger) that thought he had an NFL job waiting for him.

Did they apologize to Fairfield for taking Cooley? To GM for taking English? Hell, every head coach comes from somewhere and it's normally at another school's expense.

They need to get over it.

Pretty thorough post, enough for me to doubt that your omitting that this was the first intra-conference coaching switch in the Big East's 40+ year history was mere oversight.

To close with what "they need to" do? How is that your call to make?

Besides, it needn't be an either/or situation anyway. Why not think poorly of Cooley & wish him a period of stinging consequences for unseemly behavior AND think that Providence fans' reactions reflect poorly on them & confirm their place in the pecking order?

Cooley did what he felt was right for him and PC fans are doing what they feel is right for them. Things will sort themselves out. In the meantime, let the good times roll.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

That was at the point where many people thought Calhoun couldn’t get over the top. There was talk of trying to replace him with Tom Penders a few years earlier. That had mostly died down by 1998, as had Penders’ career. But I imagine many people would have said “Good. Now we can bring in the guy to take the final step.” By the way, at that time a Final Four was the big step, not a National Championship. He had also been much more successful than Cooley FWIW.

Hey, look at you, third post has some charm...and a measure of validity. I keep wondering when you're going to get poached and move up to a more fitting conference and deserving fanbase. On the meantime, I count my blessings that you're here.