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mauconnfan said:
Seriously he catches the ball and the defensive guy who reads the play needs to wait for him to turn around? They can't be serious the way that guy made that play that can't possibly be a flag, impossible it was nothing but real nice D. I doubt they got that right because it was a solid pay but if for some reason they aren't just throwing crap out there to make people believe they got it right I hope it's already changed because thats worst than the crap on the QBs and might as well just attach the flags to the QB, RBs and receivers.
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He doesn't have to wait for him to turn around.

He just can't make helmet contact.

He can hit him in the body.
 
upstater said:
He doesn't have to wait for him to turn around.

He just can't make helmet contact.

He can hit him in the body.
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It was a bad call but the only egregious call in my mind all game. And importantly, it didn't affect the score.
 
mauconnfan said:
Seriously he catches the ball and the defensive guy who reads the play needs to wait for him to turn around? They can't be serious the way that guy made that play that can't possibly be a flag, impossible it was nothing but real nice D. I doubt they got that right because it was a solid pay but if for some reason they aren't just throwing crap out there to make people believe they got it right I hope it's already changed because thats worst than the crap on the QBs and might as well just attach the flags to the QB, RBs and receivers.
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I just read that from the NFL rulebook. I don't know if they put something out there about it yet. I'm assuming they'll have to. But Roger Goodell, so you never know.
 
Walker11 said:
It was a bad call but the only egregious call in my mind all game. And importantly, it didn't affect the score.
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It was a textbook call. Easy to make and not even legitimately debatable. Helmet to helmet. Penalty. Period. Is it a dumb rule? Yes. Does it penalize some guys who tried to tackle the body but the other player went low? Yes. But that didn’t even happen.

There was one very late hit on Brady that would be called 99% of the time and another where he was thrown down, which is another automatic roughing call now. Is it a lame rule? Maybe. But it was an obvious penalty that went uncalled.

The refs let a lot go. Tons of hand checking by the dbs of both teams. Lots of incidental body contact as well. It helped lead to the low score.
 
HuskyHawk said:
It was a textbook call. Easy to make and not even legitimately debatable. Helmet to helmet. Penalty. Period. Is it a dumb rule? Yes. Does it penalize some guys who tried to tackle the body but the other player went low? Yes. But that didn’t even happen.

There was one very late hit on Brady that would be called 99% of the time and another where he was thrown down, which is another automatic roughing call now. Is it a lame rule? Maybe. But it was an obvious penalty that went uncalled.

The refs let a lot go. Tons of hand checking by the dbs of both teams. Lots of incidental body contact as well. It helped lead to the low score.
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Ehh. Maybe I'll be the only idiot to debate it. You are right that it may just be a currect application of a bad rule. I thought the call was for him being defenseless, not a hit to the head.
 
Walker11 said:
It was a bad call but the only egregious call in my mind all game. And importantly, it didn't affect the score.
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I agree that the helmet to helmet was incidental. I was just answering Mau's post that you can't hit a guy until he turns around (or gathers himself for a football move).
 
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upstater said:
He doesn't have to wait for him to turn around.

He just can't make helmet contact.

He can hit him in the body.
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There was no helmet so not sure what you’re trying to say?
 
upstater said:
You always do this.

You pick one iffy call and neglect all the others.

I mean, off the top of my head, they threw a flag on Gilmore for holding and it was clear across the field from the play and inconsequential. It was like a turnover since the Rams failed on 3rd down. It's just as iffy as any other call.
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I always do this? lol funny you come up with some beauties please don’t go there upstater.
 
upstater said:
There was helmet to helmet.
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Only a Pats fan would say that lucky if it was even a brush of the helmets. Wow even after a W you can’t be truthful about events. It didn’t matter no one got hurt by the awful call.
 
mauconnfan said:
Only a Pats fan would say that lucky if it was even a brush of the helmets. Wow even after a W you can’t be truthful about events. It didn’t matter no one got hurt by the awful call.
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It wasn't a brush of helmets, and I said above it was incidental and shouldn't have been called. Everyone saw it was helmet to helmet butyou.
 
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BluestWhale said:
IDK, looks like helment to helmet.
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Crown of the helmet is the initial point of impact on the other helmet. That’s a penalty 100% of the time under the modern rules.
 
upstater said:
"Once the 2 goats leave"

Seriously, I've been hearing a version of this since 2007.

Wade Phillips did great. Our point is that the Patriots do not actually have a stellar offense that is very difficult to stop.
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Well yeah, and they are both still there...
 
That was a bad call and bad rule but jeez mau let it go your starting to sound like Dick Vital . Your on your own now most of the others have given up even superjohn hasn't chimed in . Hit the golf course you'll feel better on a sunshiny day.
 
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storrsroars said:
I'm hoping Pats get #7 real soon. The one thing annoying Steelers fans held onto was that they had 6 and nobody else did. I will enjoy this schadenfreude immensely.
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The Green Bay Packers have 13 Championships. As much as I liked the NFL 100 commercial (Here, Kid. Hold these for me.") I hate that the NFL only recognizes Super Bowls as their championships.
 
uconnphil2016 said:
Goff is a joke. McVey is smart enough to make Goff look decent, but you can’t trust a guy who doesn’t know that that the sun rises in the east to win you a super bowl
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McVey makes all of Goff's pre-snap reads, but had to stop because the Patriots would adjust to McVey's adjustment. The helmet speakers get cut off at 15 seconds and the Rams' offense wouldn't line up before then in the second half.

Long story short is that Goff is a product of McVey. The Rams are expected to exercise Goff's 5th year rookie option for a cool $22 Mil but will let him walk if he succeeds next year and McVey will do the same with someone else.
 
Husky25 said:
The Green Bay Packers have 13 Championships. As much as I liked the NFL 100 commercial (Here, Kid. Hold these for me.") I hate that the NFL only recognizes Super Bowls as their championships.
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They recogize all 100 years. People just don't grasp that.
 
Butch said:
They recogize all 100 years. People just don't grasp that.
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Without looking it up, How many championships do the Browns have? Even if the Super Bowl era is a Media driven vehicle, the NFL as an organization does nothing to dissuade the narrative.
 
Husky25 said:
The Green Bay Packers have 13 Championships. As much as I liked the NFL 100 commercial (Here, Kid. Hold these for me.") I hate that the NFL only recognizes Super Bowls as their championships.
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Why? It wasn't a league before the merger. Not enough teams anyway.
 
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Husky25 said:
The Green Bay Packers have 13 Championships. As much as I liked the NFL 100 commercial (Here, Kid. Hold these for me.") I hate that the NFL only recognizes Super Bowls as their championships.
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I feel a debate on the merits of recognizing Helms trophies coming along any minute now...
 
Walker11 said:
Ehh. Maybe I'll be the only idiot to debate it. You are right that it may just be a currect application of a bad rule. I thought the call was for him being defenseless, not a hit to the head.
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thats what they said which still makes no sense since defense is completely predicated on hitting guys to drop passes
 
Husky25 said:
Without looking it up, How many championships do the Browns have? Even if the Super Bowl era is a Media driven vehicle, the NFL as an organization does nothing to dissuade the narrative.
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The Browns have zero. Are you talking about the Ravens?
 
intlzncster said:
Why? It wasn't a league before the merger. Not enough teams anyway.
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What wasn't a league before the merger? The NFL? There were 15 teams in the NFL in 1966. By comparison, there were 14 teams when NBA/ABA merger talks began in 1970 and 18 in the final season prior to the merger.

Waquoit said:
The Browns have zero. Are you talking about the Ravens?
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The Ravens were established in 1995 (Organizational history stayed in Cleveland). The Browns won three championships in Cleveland, but whether anyone knows or not that CLE retained the history, colors, and name, and logos, their pre-Super Bowl titles don't register.
 
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storrsroars said:
I feel a debate on the merits of recognizing Helms trophies coming along any minute now...
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I can understand that from a Pittsburgh guy, seeing as the Steelers would love to erase their history prior to 1970.
 
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