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OT: my new diet

Right, via the liver, which is sufficient itself. Hence no need for dietary cholesterol. Thanks.

Respond if you want but I don’t care to continue this. This will not end up being productive.

This all stemmed from me responding to a comment that suggested that something that is near-universally recommended in moderation can somehow be healthier than something you could eat with literally every meal.
Personally I think that we paint nutrition with too broad of a brush. I think there are people that can eat red meat at every meal and it will be good for them, and others that should only eat red meat a couple times per week.
 
Personally I think that we paint nutrition with too broad of a brush. I think there are people that can eat red meat at every meal and it will be good for them, and others that should only eat red meat a couple times per week.
Ahhh gotta love anecdotes

My grandpa smoked a pack a day for 50 years and he’s doing great at 84! I guess we paint pulmonology with too broad a brush. I think there are people that can just let em rip and some who should just have a couple with some buddies on the course
 
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We need cholesterol for survival.

For most people dietary cholesterol has no impact on their heart health.

Basically everything in balance and moderation is good for you.

How on earth is any of that not true? Why does that get an "Lol. Okay, pal response."
 
Ahhh gotta love anecdotes

My grandpa smoked a pack a day for 50 years and he’s doing great at 84! I guess we paint pulmonology with too broad a brush. I think there are people that can just let em rip and some who should just have a couple with some buddies on the course
well, no, that's not what I'm saying at all. I think some peoples bodies, due to genetics and other variables, do a better job of processing certain foods compared to others.
 
Down 10 pounds in 4 weeks. Had been pretty into lifting, slacked badly for the past year, still ate that bulking diet. Trying to get a lean enough bf% for that beach body, then after summer start a slow bulk. Goal at the beginning was to lose 15 pounds and then reevaluate. Going more by mirror than anything.

I have myfitnesspal set to 1900 calories per day, most days I go 200-300 short of that. Lifting 4-5 days a week, cardio 6-7 days a week, switching between a high intensity 15 minute session or a moderate intensity 25 minutes. Only stuff I completely cut out diet wise is deserts, and snacks that are completely useless for you. Besides that its pretty flexible, just focused on planning ahead for me. Most days its small, low calorie meals all day. If I'm really craving take out or something with some extra calories for a meal, make sure I eat a little less the other meals. If I'm going to have a few beers, just make sure I'm absolutely perfect with food that day, and maybe do some extra cardio. Just been about having some balance and not making any terrible choices that can wipe away days of gains
 
Down 10 pounds in 4 weeks. Had been pretty into lifting, slacked badly for the past year, still ate that bulking diet. Trying to get a lean enough bf% for that beach body, then after summer start a slow bulk. Goal at the beginning was to lose 15 pounds and then reevaluate. Going more by mirror than anything.

I have myfitnesspal set to 1900 calories per day, most days I go 200-300 short of that. Lifting 4-5 days a week, cardio 6-7 days a week, switching between a high intensity 15 minute session or a moderate intensity 25 minutes. Only stuff I completely cut out diet wise is deserts, and snacks that are completely useless for you. Besides that its pretty flexible, just focused on planning ahead for me. Most days its small, low calorie meals all day. If I'm really craving take out or something with some extra calories for a meal, make sure I eat a little less the other meals. If I'm going to have a few beers, just make sure I'm absolutely perfect with food that day, and maybe do some extra cardio. Just been about having some balance and not making any terrible choices that can wipe away days of gains
Congrats on your start! Now you’re heading into what I always consider the hardest part. The second month, after the “I gotta do this” adrenaline rush. It’s good that you have some medium and longer term goals.

I’m at 4 months. Just hit 40 pounds. 9 more to go. I’ve lost my cravings, but I know they can come back at any time. I’m not a weight training guy traditionally, but I’ve done some lifting and I’ve enjoyed it and I think it’s helped.
 
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“We need cholesterol for survival” yet people who eat nothing but plants have better life expectancy and lower rates of all major chronic conditions than do those who consume the standard Western diet
What is a purported "standard Western diet"?
 
What is a purported "standard Western diet"?
Western pattern diet - Wikipedia

That was hard

Edit lmao just look at the highlighted health concerns: Obesity, IBD, Diabetes, Cancer, Heart Disease (which further contributes to stroke, and along with obesity and diabetes contributes to circulatory disroders)... are any of those associated with consumption of a plant-based diet?
 
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Amazing, vegetarians/vegans don't die from heart disease and cancer. Learn something new here every day!
 
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Such an overly generalized, under informed perspective of the widely-diverse western diets was expected. The western world's sort of big, its' vast array of cuisines massively diverse, and dietary compositions not nearly so simplified to reasonably define in one narrow minded pattern, but hey it's a Wikipedia link. :rolleyes:
I don’t think it’s that diverse, and I don’t think the generalization was unfounded. If you want to argue crap diets from other regions are just as bad that’s one thing. But your average Westerner is absolutely eating way too much (red) meat; way too much dairy; way too much processed sugar and carbs; and not nearly enough vegetables or fiber.

Didn’t think I’d need a wiki link for you to see that but here we are. Just helping where I can.
 
For most people dietary cholesterol has no impact on their heart health.
Abject lie. I’ll leave this and step back out of another stupid and fruitless exchange. Maybe you’ll post some sources one of these days.

 
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Lmao most useless link ever. There were dozens of legitimate research from at least the American Journal of Cardiology. I didn’t see any references in that article. Are they referencing the kind of bad research my video talks about? That is, studying sick populations who already have high cholesterol scores and will necessarily appreciate a lesser increase in cholesterol level with increased intake, than will someone who started off with a healthy level (140 or lower).

Edit yup here it is. “Normal” for a Westerner is not objectively healthy. So when you take a person who statistically is within a normal range around a mean level, even if that median level still places people at risk for heart disease, their cholesterol levels won’t go much higher with more intake. But if you take an objectively healthy person and do the same, the change is significant


Please just watch the video so you know first of all what kinds of studies are appropriate for investigating diet and heart health. Stop deluding yourself with bad research.

Have a good one
 
Lettuce is just a terrible vegetable in general. You're much better off with spinach
Tomatoes are ripening daily. Lady Hans brought home the bacon. Just missing one ingredient...
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(Photo from newly opened Farmer's India Market in Orange)
 
Lmao most useless link ever. There were dozens of legitimate research from at least the American Journal of Cardiology. I didn’t see any references in that article. Are they referencing the kind of bad research my video talks about? That is, studying sick populations who already have high cholesterol scores and will necessarily appreciate a lesser increase in cholesterol level with increased intake, than will someone who started off with a healthy level (140 or lower).

Edit yup here it is. “Normal” for a Westerner is not objectively healthy. So when you take a person who statistically is within a normal range around a mean level, even if that median level still places people at risk for heart disease, their cholesterol levels won’t go much higher with more intake. But if you take an objectively healthy person and do the same, the change is significant



Please just watch the video so you know first of all what kinds of studies are appropriate for investigating diet and heart health. Stop deluding yourself with bad research.

Have a good one
Holy , you actually did post a Vegan Gains video. This is amazing, you just may have become my favorite poster.

Yep, your Vegan Gains video is a better source than the Cleveland Clinic.

Vegan Boy never disappoints!
 
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Need a re-fill on my water here.

And tell the bartender they did a great job on the drink.
I remember you saying you lift. Really hope you get all your lifting advice from Vegan Gains too, you'll be benching 135 lbs. in no time.

That's so awesome that your source on all this stuff is a mentally ill virgin who gets in fights on youtube.

Also knew Rocko was one of those people who goes to the bar and only orders water.
 
Holy , you actually did post a Vegan Gains video. This is amazing, you just may have become my favorite poster.

Yep, your Vegan Gains video is a better source than the Cleveland Clinic.

Vegan Boy never disappoints!
Dude references actual articles from the American Journal of Cardiology.

Whatever, stick to being willfully ignorant
 
I remember you saying you lift. Really hope you get all your lifting advice from Vegan Gains too, you'll be benching 135 lbs. in no time.

That's so awesome that your source on all this stuff is a mentally ill virgin who gets in fights on youtube.

Also knew Rocko was one of those people who goes to the bar and only orders water.
Lmao says the guy who can’t even pull his body weight for reps
 
Yep, that's me. Bench press is a push exercise.
Congratulations on knowing at least that. Unfortunately I wasn't talking about your bench. I guess I over-estimated you as a lifter, given just about anyone I know who has been at it seriously for more than a few months knows that what you "pull" is what you deadlift. Incredibly common term in the lifting world.

lol you're at best some aging gym bro. Plenty of curls and leg extensions, right? Maybe some hernia-inducing DB rows here and there?
 
Congratulations on knowing at least that. Unfortunately I wasn't talking about your bench. I guess I over-estimated you as a lifter, given just about anyone I know who has been at it seriously for more than a few months knows that what you "pull" is what you deadlift. Incredibly common term in the lifting world.

lol you're at best some aging gym bro. Plenty of curls and leg extensions, right? Maybe some hernia-inducing DB rows here and there?
lol, you're flailing all over the place.
I remember you saying you lift. Really hope you get all your lifting advice from Vegan Gains too, you'll be benching 135 lbs. in no time.

That's so awesome that your source on all this stuff is a mentally ill virgin who gets in fights on youtube.

Also knew Rocko was one of those people who goes to the bar and only orders water.

Lmao says the guy who can’t even pull his body weight for reps
 
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