OT: Jay Wright/Knicks

[MattMang23]

Our old coach "turned down" his hometown Lakers. Let's see if he's actually offered first.

 

[The Funster]

Shhhhh!

I haven't watched a minute of Knicks basketball since Dolan chased off Donnie Walsh. That was it for me. The only guy that made the franchise healthy under Dolan's watch was kicked to the curb. I'm still pissed. I'll stop there before I ruin a perfectly good afternoon, lol.

 

[fatlucy]

$5million/year is $100,000/week.

 

[Guapo]

Its a top 3 NBA job when things are good. Years ago max kellerman on his radio show said Knicks, when good, have the highest priced tickets of any sports team in NYC and they are the hardest ticket to get. Higher than the Yankees

Problem is they haven't been good since Ewing missed that layup

Look, I hate the Yankees and I would never defend them in a million years.

However, I'm also a fan of rational argument.

So:

MSG = 20k capacity.

Yankee Stadium = 55k capacity (old stadium was even more).

Plus, NBA has 41 home dates.

MLB has 81.

Look at TV ratings. I bet that when the Yankees are good, they trounce the Knicks in local tv ratings even when the Knicks are good (which is impressive because there are so many more baseball games).

Basically, ticket prices are meaningless when it comes to popularity.

Ok, now off to shower, I feel gross.

 

[gioff23]

He’s not leaving Nova. Write it down, in pen. He’s certainly not leaving for a bad job in the NBA. Nova will take care of him.

 

[gioff23]

Here’s his quote

“It’s my hometown, my wife’s alma mater, my favorite team growing up,” he said. “I’ve got a great president and a great [athletic director]. I just love going to work every day. Our guys graduate. You see these kids are great kids to coach. As a coach, there’s just nothing better.”

 

[Onions]

NYC is first and foremost a basketball town.

NYC is first and foremost an everything town. It's the best baseball town, the best basketball town and ask the Giants and Rangers what it's like to win a hockey or football title here. It's a metro area with 20 million mostly crazed sports fans - there's nothing remotely like it on this continent.

 

[Onions]

As a Knicks fan, this would make me happy.

As a Knicks fan, I have no interest in a college coach with zero NBA experience, no experience with big ego'd one and done type players, and no experience in a major media market (no, Phildadelphia is not.) Everyone will bring up Brad Stevens, but I'd rather bring up Hoiberg, PJ Carlisimo, Billy Donovan and almost anyone else that fits. Wright is a great college coach, but I don't see any evidence that what he does translates to the NBA.

 

[Guapo]

NYC is first and foremost an everything town. It's the best baseball town, the best basketball town and ask the Giants and Rangers what it's like to win a hockey or football title here. It's a metro area with 30 million mostly crazed sports fans - there's nothing remotely like it on this continent.

Boston's better

 

[Onions]

Boston's better

I spend about 2 months a year working in Boston and while they may have better fans (debatable) they have way less of them - Boston is a quarter the size of NY in population. Which is why NY hosts 2 baseball, 2 basketball, 2 football (if you count the Jets as a real football team) and 3 hockey teams. The Knicks play to 95% capacity when they haven't played a meaningful game in 15 years, which is why Dolan can get away with his crap.

 

[Guapo]

I spend about 2 months a year working in Boston and while they may have better fans (debatable) they have way less of them - Boston is a quarter the size of NY in population. Which is why NY hosts 2 baseball, 2 basketball, 2 football (if you count the Jets as a real football team) and 3 hockey teams. The Knicks play to 95% capacity when they haven't played a meaningful game in 15 years, which is why Dolan can get away with his crap.

That is a surprisingly reasonable response!

 

[superjohn]

NYC is first and foremost an everything town. It's the best baseball town, the best basketball town and ask the Giants and Rangers what it's like to win a hockey or football title here. It's a metro area with 20 million mostly crazed sports fans - there's nothing remotely like it on this continent.

I wouldn't call it the most amazing sports town, in my experience sports are overall bigger in Chicago and probably Boston but I don't know that town as intimately. I'm also guessing sports are nore the lifeblood in a place like Pittsburgh than NYC but I don't know that city at all. What I do know is basketball is bigger in NYC than everywhere else I've been and for the most part people seem to know their s^^t.

 

[Guapo]

I wouldn't call it the most amazing sports town, in my experience sports are overall bigger in Chicago and probably Boston but I don't know that town as intimately. I'm also guessing sports are nore the lifeblood in a place like Pittsburgh than NYC but I don't know that city at all. What I do know is basketball is bigger in NYC than everywhere else I've been and for the most part people seem to know their s^^t.

This debate is probably deserving of its own thread, but that's not what this thread is here for!

 

[intlzncster]

I spend about 2 months a year working in Boston and while they may have better fans (debatable) they have way less of them - Boston is a quarter the size of NY in population. Which is why NY hosts 2 baseball, 2 basketball, 2 football (if you count the Jets as a real football team) and 3 hockey teams. The Knicks play to 95% capacity when they haven't played a meaningful game in 15 years, which is why Dolan can get away with his crap.

Having all those teams waters things down though. Plus, in NYC, there are so many more competing interests. It's a different feel.

 

[KingAG]

I’m a die-hard Knicks fan and J Wright would need a drug test to take this job. MSG is a coaching graveyard

 

[gtcam]

He is "only" making $2.5 million a year at Nova. For perspective, Dan Hurley is making $2.75 million in his first year at UConn. I don't know how much they can open up the bank account for him but Hornacek was making $5 million a year before getting fired so it may be too good to pass up.

Either someone is being under paid or someone is over paid
I really don't think $5Mill will get him to jump but do think that Nova gives Jay some more $
Knicks may prove to be a tough fill with Dolan there

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

You wouldn't live in Manhattan if someone handed you a check for a hundred billion dollars?

I'd do it for a tenth of that if you are offering, but I'd need it to be a bank check.

 

[mjmoney23]

NYC is first and foremost a basketball town.

Serious question, then why is it always baseball season on WFAN? I have been listening to it for going on 16 years and basketball is a distant 3rd behind baseball and then the diet and 2nd football.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Can't speak for the OP, but personally, if I could make what jay is making now (or can be expected to make in coming seasons) I wouldn't even consider moving to manhattan. It's not like he's not able to live pretty large in his current situation.
You know how people say It's a great place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there? I avoid visiting it at all costs.

I'm on West 26th Street right now, after a visit to the Jazz Record Center, and quite enjoying my last couple hours after 4 days, but I wouldn't want to live here again, or pair it with a high expectation job.

 

[superjohn]

Serious question, then why is it always baseball season on WFAN? I have been listening to it for going on 16 years and basketball is a distant 3rd behind baseball and then the diet and 2nd football.

Because the Knicks and Johnnies have sucked for the past 2 decades, also Fatso and Fruitloops are basketball illiterate.

 

[whaler11]

Maybe he already has his handpicked college job

You also have to take in taxes Philly vs NYC, cost of living, etc

According to bankrate.com cost of living calculator it is 90% more expensive to live in metro Manhattan vs metro Philly

If Jay Wright was making 2.5 in Philly he would have to make 4.75 in Manhattan to have the same lifestyle.

That calculator doesn’t really work at those income levels.

 

[UconnU]

Knicks job is one of if not the most coveted job in the basketball coaching world. Who are you guys kidding?!?

 

[whaler11]

Serious question, then why is it always baseball season on WFAN? I have been listening to it for going on 16 years and basketball is a distant 3rd behind baseball and then the diet and 2nd football.

Because SJ likes to talk out of his rear end?

Baseball is by far and away the biggest sport in NY and you are 100% correct that football is second.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Because SJ likes to talk out of his rear end?

Baseball is by far and away the biggest sport in NY and you are 100% correct that football is second.

Glad someone else said this.

Baseball is hands down the biggest sport in NYC.

It's talked about on the FAN non-stop.

 

[methodology]

When the Knicks are good they Trump all other sports. Nyc has the most bball courts per capita of anywhere in the world. As someone mentioned when they suck they still sell 95%. The celebs and stars are always at Knicks games dame can't be said for Yankees and giants.

Problem is it's been 20 years since the Knicks have been good so people forget how big they are. Meanwhile the Yankees are more or less always always contenders

 

[UconnAngel]

I haven't watched a minute of Knicks basketball since Dolan chased off Donnie Walsh. That was it for me. The only guy that made the franchise healthy under Dolan's watch was kicked to the curb. I'm still pissed. I'll stop there before I ruin a perfectly good afternoon, lol.

Donnie Walsh's termination was the handwriting on the wall. Follow that by the childish disrespect on Jeremy Lin by Dolan and Carmelo just added fuel to the fire. If somehow the Knicks can have the money to snag Kemba and Lin to together, plus the successful recovery of the big Lithuanian, then you may not need a stellar coach to get them to the playoffs and win some.

 

[whaler11]

When the Knicks are good they Trump all other sports. Nyc has the most bball courts per capita of anywhere in the world. As someone mentioned when they suck they still sell 95%. The celebs and stars are always at Knicks games dame can't be said for Yankees and giants.

Problem is it's been 20 years since the Knicks have been good so people forget how big they are. Meanwhile the Yankees are more or less always always contenders

Yeah no but whatever.

The Mets at the Winter Meetings are a bigger story than the Knicks.

 

[superjohn]

Because SJ likes to talk out of his rear end?

Baseball is by far and away the biggest sport in NY and you are 100% correct that football is second.

Spoken like someone who has never lived in the city. NYC has always been the hoops mecca despite the Knicks being mismanaged for decades. Huge high school hoops scene, MSG, the Rucker, The GOAT, Joe Hammond, Lou Alcindor, PeeWee Kirkland, Connie Hawkins, Dr. J etc.

The Knicks are still the hottest ticket despite being horrendously run for so many years, when there is a good Knicks team there is a buzz like no other. The Yankees are the most historic team in sports and had an amazing run in the late 90's but that doesn't make it a baseball town. Football is hugely popular throughout the country, NYC is one of the places it's least popular in.

 

[KingAG]

Donnie Walsh's termination was the handwriting on the wall. Follow that by the childish disrespect on Jeremy Lin by Dolan and Carmelo just added fuel to the fire. If somehow the Knicks can have the money to snag Kemba and Lin to together, plus the successful recovery of the big Lithuanian, then you may not need a stellar coach to get them to the playoffs and win some.

Dolan and Melo disrespected Lin? Lmboooo. That’s so false. During that time there were ppl who were Lin fans and not Knick fans. They wanted Melo to be the second option to Jeremy Lin, they were delusional

 

[whaler11]

Spoken like someone who has never lived in the city. NYC has always been the hoops mecca despite the Knicks being mismanaged for decades. Huge high school hoops scene, the Rucker, The GOAT, Joe Hammond, Lou Alcindor, PeeWee Kirkland, Connie Hawkins, Dr. J etc.

The Knicks are still the hottest ticket despite being horrendously run for so many years, when there is a good Knicks team there is a buzz like no other. The Yankees are the most historic team in sports and had an amazing run in the late 90's but that doesn't make it a baseball town. Football is hugely popular throughout the country, NYC is one of the places it's least popular in.

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Make up whatever you like.

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