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Waquoit said:
After 1978, Yankee fans couldn't engage a Sox fan without alluding to Dent. It rankled for a while but multiple Sox titles since and no one talks about Dent anymore. Like you couldn't engage without alluding to something that happened multiple titles ago but nonetheless still makes me feel insecure when engaging with Giants fans thinking , knowing that it might would elicit a reaction other than bemusement. And thanks for your concern with my post-season enjoyment. I bet it's a bit higher than yours. Eagles or Pats, who ya got!
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Thanks for confirming what I observed.

As for the Super Bowl, I am rooting for an earthquake to swallow both teams and their fans. Short of that, the Pats having another title out of the weakest division in football history yet again is so much of a yawner that I'm fine with it; no one but you guys will remember it after next weekend. It doesn't add anything notable to an already storied run for the cheaters and their leaders, and it doesn't take away from the fact that the Giants own the Pats when they meet in the Super Bowl. In that sense, it is preferable to me than seeing all the Philly yahoos adopt the pink hat Red Sox fan mentality that you have.
 
NC_Uconn_Fan said:
As a Giants fan, I hope the Pats destroy the Eagles. I have no real hate for the Pats, except that I am sick of watching them every year. No Giants fan I know wants the Eagles to win a SB.
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Ever since Joe Pisarcik and Herman Edwards, the Eagles were a bad word in the household.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Actually once can be an accident,twice is a pattern..
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Once is chance. Twice is a coincidence. Three times a pattern.

Thank god Coughlin is gone. Although his prints are all over Jacksonville, so the Pats will now have to contend with that in their own conference.
 
8893 said:
I don't get the Bucky Dent analogy.

I just find it telling that, with all the Pats' accolades, you and so many of their fans remain so insecure about the Giants that you have to try to insult them and hope to keep them down in order to make yourself feel better. And I thought it a strange place to choose to make a barb based on the results of one game instead of a body of work, which is exactly the opposite tact fans of your ilk take when trying to explain away the fact that the Giants own the Pats head-to-head and are the only team that does.

So...thanks for confirming that it still bothers you I guess; shame that it distracts you from enjoying another successful post-season.
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It's a Boston vs NY fan thing first and foremost. Even so, it's not that common on this board anyway.

Again, glad Coughlin is gone. One of the few coaches in the League who doesn't fear Belichick. And his teams were tough. Just as Jacksonville is now.
 
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intlzncster said:
It's a Boston vs NY fan thing first and foremost. Even so, it's not that common on this board anyway.
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I got that much, but it's not analogous to Giants vs. Pats.

And as a Mets fan, I'm more partial to the Bill Buckner taunts (even though the game was already tied by then).
 
8893 said:
Thanks for confirming what I observed.

As for the Super Bowl, I am rooting for an earthquake to swallow both teams and their fans. Short of that, the Pats having another title out of the weakest division in football history yet again is so much of a yawner that I'm fine with it; no one but you guys will remember it after next weekend. It doesn't add anything notable to an already storied run for the cheaters and their leaders, and it doesn't take away from the fact that the Giants own the Pats when they meet in the Super Bowl. In that sense, it is preferable to me than seeing all the Philly yahoos adopt the pink hat Red Sox fan mentality that you have.
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As has been proven wrong over and over and over again, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

And talk about insecurity, your post is riddled with it. If you need to denigrate the Pats at every turn, it is what it is. Glass houses 8893 ;)
 
intlzncster said:
As has been proven wrong over and over and over again, but whatever helps you sleep.

And talk about insecurity, your post is riddled with it.
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It was a troll post meant to further entangle Pats fans like yourselves who, like everyone else, are so bored with another totally expected cake walk to the Super Bowl that you have to burrow into Giants fan discussion threads.

Note, I haven't even felt the need to click on the Pats threads since their inevitable clinching.
 
8893 said:
It was a troll post meant to further entangle Pats fans like yourselves who, like everyone else, are so bored with another totally expected cake walk to the Super Bowl that you have to burrow into Giants fan discussion threads.
Note, I haven't even felt the need to click on the Pats threads since their inevitable clinching.
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How have you trollingly entangled me? I'm not remotely angry about any of this. You've engaged me in discussion, but that's the whole point of a message board.

I come here because there's nothing else to talk about. UCONN basketball? I can recite all the arguments in my sleep. It's like clockwork. I enjoy talking football, even other teams. Roster management, coaching, etc are one of the most interesting things in sports for me. When discussing these things, it's common to reference Belichick, as he's the gold standard.

The Pats are generally brought up by Giants fans first anyway, but in this case, two of the Pats coaches were in the discussion for the job. If somebody posts something incorrect about the Pats, I'll respond and correct the error. But I'm not jumping over hoops to talk about them. And if you think they have a cakewalk every year, I guess you haven't been watching the games. Which is fine.

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Back to the Giants. What do you think of the hires? Gettleman/Shurmer/Bettcher

I like the Bettcher hire maybe the best of the three. Ever since he became the Arizona defensive coordinator, they've been comfortably a top 10 defense. Don't know why Arizona didn't hire an offensive HC, and keep Bettcher.

I'm not quite sold on Gettleman. What did he really do with that Carolina roster? And if he was so effective, why did Carolina let him go?

Shurmer did well with Keenum this year. And Teddy B in previous years. I've really haven't the faintest idea about his ability to run a team.
 
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I may be alone here (although most from my neck of the woods feel as I do) but I don't have any real hatred (as a Yankee/Giant fan) towards the Pats or Red Sox (although I'll never forgived the Sox for blowing the 86 series). I do however find it humorous that many Sox fans view their few recent titles as the equivalent to what we've done. It reminds me of when a PC fan told me their 94 Big East tournament title was worth three of ours.

The closest I have to any animosity is in baseball, towards the Mets and that is very limited. It is also based on (true until ~15 + years ago) their fan base and the number of fans they had (Cowboys have been similar) who a) are only fans when the team is winning and b) know very little about the sport (to my dismay, a lot of those jerks became Yankee fans post 2000 world series).

I won't get overly excited about this super bowl but if tthe Pats win, we will still be the only team that beat Bellichick/Brady and if the Eagles win, our division will be the only one where all four teams have super bowl trophies.
 
intlzncster said:
How have you trollingly entangled me? I'm not remotely angry about any of this. You've engaged me in discussion, but that's the whole point of a message board.

I come here because there's nothing else to talk about. UCONN basketball? I can recite all the arguments in my sleep. It's like clockwork. I enjoy talking football, even other teams. Roster management, coaching, etc are one of the most interesting things in sports for me. When discussing these things, it's common to reference Belichick, as he's the gold standard.

The Pats are generally brought up by Giants fans first anyway, but in this case, two of the Pats coaches were in the discussion for the job. If somebody posts something incorrect about the Pats, I'll respond and correct the error. But I'm not jumping over hoops to talk about them. And if you think they have a cakewalk every year, I guess you haven't been watching the games. Which is fine.

******

Back to the Giants. What do you think of the hires? Gettleman/Shurmer/Bettcher

I like the Bettcher hire maybe the best of the three. Ever since he became the Arizona defensive coordinator, they've been comfortably a top 10 defense. Don't know why Arizona didn't hire an offensive HC, and keep Bettcher.

I'm not quite sold on Gettleman. What did he really do with that Carolina roster? And if he was so effective, why did Carolina let him go?

Shurmer did well with Keenum this year. And Teddy B in previous years. I've really haven't the faintest idea about his ability to run a team.
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Yeah, you and Waquit are different. You come here to discuss; he just comes here because he's not happy with the Pats success unless he can try and somehow denigrate the Giants in the process. He's done the same thing for years, repeating the same lines like Johnny One-Note, apparently because he still can't come to terms with the fact that his team can't beat the Giants when it counts. Oh well. The world needs ditch diggers, too, I suppose.

As for the Giants, I'm happy enough with the hires and to be done with the McAdoo experiment. I am more concerned about personnel, which will be up to the GM.
 
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Waquoit said:
After 1978, Yankee fans couldn't engage a Sox fan without alluding to Dent. It rankled for a while but multiple Sox titles since and no one talks about Dent anymore. Like you couldn't engage without alluding to something that happened multiple titles ago thinking that it might elicit a reaction other than bemusement. And thanks for your concern with my post-season enjoyment. I bet it's a bit higher than yours. Eagles or Pats, who ya got!
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"Like you couldn't engage without alluding to something that happened multiple titles ago thinking that it might elicit a reaction other than bemusement. And thanks for your concern with my post-season enjoyment. I bet it's a bit higher than yours."

You are Waq'd, the arrogance is unbecoming but expected. Just typing it brought reaction from you lol. It wasn't all that long ago - Eli 2, Brady 0.

Fly Eagles Fly
 
Waquoit said:
After 1978, Yankee fans couldn't engage a Sox fan without alluding to Dent. It rankled for a while but multiple Sox titles since and no one talks about Dent anymore. Like you couldn't engage without alluding to something that happened multiple titles ago thinking that it might elicit a reaction other than bemusement. And thanks for your concern with my post-season enjoyment. I bet it's a bit higher than yours. Eagles or Pats, who ya got!
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Maybe it’s because you have to be 50 to remember the Bucky Dent HR?

It’s been a little while...
 
Waquoit said:
Is that wrong?
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You seem stunned that people don’t walk around talking about Bucky Dent constantly.

I haven’t talked to anyone about Super Bowl IX all week. Odd.
 
whaler11 said:
You seem stunned that people don’t walk around talking about Bucky Dent constantly.

I haven’t talked to anyone about Super Bowl IX all week. Odd.
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Being over 50 I meant. Is that wrong.? And you should settle down, you seem to use a bazooka for every little quibble these days.
 
Waquoit said:
What, I'm afraid of Giants fans doing their Bucky Dent thing on me?
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I watched Bucky Dent's home run from the right field bleachers...as a Red Sox fan. I watched the 2 Super Bowls as a Giants fan. This isn't one of your better posts.
 
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mauconnfan said:
It wasn't all that long ago - Eli 2, Brady 0.
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Mau, the entire point is that Bucky Dent (and Bill Buckner) went away the second the Sox beat the Cards. Same with the above, the moment Butler picked off that pass. Doesn't matter how long ago it was.
 
Waquoit said:
Mau, the entire point is that Bucky Dent (and Bill Buckner) went away the second the Sox beat the Cards. Same with the above, the moment Butler picked off that pass. Doesn't matter how long ago it was.
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Yes it does because you erase everything the Yanks or Giants do in the past 10-15-20 years as ancient history because you elect to start in 2004 with everything, it's a joke Waq. But expected. I get Bucky is ancient history but it's your pattern that is hilarious.
 
Cut flowers. Again, Eli’s inaccuracy and the drops kill the team. Odell has two touchdowns if Eli can just throw it somewhat accurately. Run blocking was absolutely atrocious as well. Same old stuff
 
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Told all y'all Eli sucks. Still can't believe he beat Brady twice in the SB.
 
superjohn said:
I'm not watching the game but how the hell is Flowers still on the team, let alone starting? They had another full offseason to address this and nothing. The guy is legit the worst offensive lineman in the league.
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ABSOLUTELY!!! I was shocked to see him in the SL. If today's performance hasn't convinced anyone he should be gone nothing will. Still the drive killer. AND he has earned that title.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Cut flowers. Again, Eli’s inaccuracy and the drops kill the team. Odell has two touchdowns if Eli can just throw it somewhat accurately. Run blocking was absolutely atrocious as well. Same old stuff
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Eli's stats were not that bad. Two dropped balls from Shepard and Engram (tight end)? did not help. I felt great for Barkley on that 68 yarder. He was getting pounded 3/4 of the game. Still the offense line (so far today) is in question. Thankfully Rosas is deadly. Once again the offense fails to score. With all those weapons, all they could muster up was a Barkley thriller. The defense was great. Allowed only 1 TD. Why was Barkley running up the middle most of the time?? That 4th down and 2 at the 5? 7? call was pathetic. Passing game got them there, running game at that point was non existent. Sorry for the ramble.
 
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