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mauconnfan said:
Yeah because you’re the expert. You’re hilarious you believe you know more than most. And by the way there are plenty of so-called experts out there who know a ton more than you and navery, who say he can still make the throws he needs protection but please keep preaching. You have a few listening. Lol
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I say this with complete sincerity, can you find one expert who says that?
 
mauconnfan said:
Yeah because you’re the expert. You’re hilarious you believe you know more than most. And by the way there are plenty of so-called experts out there who know a ton more than you and navery, who say he can still make the throws he needs protection but please keep preaching. You have a few listening. Lol
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They’re only experts if they agree with you, right?
 
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navery12 said:
What has Eli done to help this team win a game?
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What did Beckham do to win a game so far? What has the OLine done to help win a game? Olivier? Coaches? Refs today?

He’s not the only reason and it’s funny you
Guys point at him yet again today after he was pretty good. Check that mirror if you and super John want bizarre because you also have blinders on. For you and a chosen others it’s immediately placed on Eli. He’s a piece I agree sometime but it’s rather odd how you all need to throw the daggers even when wrong.

But they’re cooked now anyway maybe there’s a QB out there for you guys to like.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
They’re only experts if they agree with you, right?[/QUOTE

Ok that works.

Obviously not at all what I feel but you and I will never agree on the Giants. You were way too happy to come here and throw me the “happy now” crap post after the interception. Again can hardly believe you’re actually a Giant fan.
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mauconnfan said:
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What did Beckham do to win a game so far? What has the OLine done to help win a game? Olivier? Coaches? Refs today?

He’s not the only reason and it’s funny you
Guys point at him yet again today after he was pretty good. Check that mirror if you and super John want bizarre because you also have blinders on. For you and a chosen others it’s immediately placed on Eli. He’s a piece I agree sometime but it’s rather odd how you all need to throw the daggers even when wrong.

But they’re cooked now anyway maybe there’s a QB out there for you guys to like.
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If you haven't noticed it's a quarterback league, that's why people tend to focus on quarterbacks. It doesn't matter all that much what you have all over the field, if you have one of the worst QB's in the league your team is going to be pretty bad.
 
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mauconnfan said:
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What did Beckham do to win a game so far? What has the OLine done to help win a game? Olivier? Coaches? Refs today?

He’s not the only reason and it’s funny you
Guys point at him yet again today after he was pretty good. Check that mirror if you and super John want bizarre because you also have blinders on. For you and a chosen others it’s immediately placed on Eli. He’s a piece I agree sometime but it’s rather odd how you all need to throw the daggers even when wrong.

But they’re cooked now anyway maybe there’s a QB out there for you guys to like.
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If you read my post, I didn't blame him for today's loss and said he played a little better today. But 1 game doesn't change the fact that he's one of the worst starting QBs in the league.

And still waiting on those experts who think Eli is good you conveniently chose to ignore
 
mauconnfan said:
What did Beckham do to win a game so far? What has the OLine done to help win a game? Olivier? Coaches? Refs today?
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Forgot about this part, it's possible to have multiple problems. The OLine and coach and QB can all be bad at the same time
 
Maybe if Eli had the Jacksonville OL he would be adequate but given the realities - he is washed up and has been for 3-5 years.
 
I’m a Giants fan, when the QB who has led us for the past 15 years has become mediocre, I start to get pretty annoyed, normal right? Nah, I guess I have to be content with 5 yard passes 90% of the time, negative mobility, and overall shotty (to say the least) decision making. When everyone who watches the sport besides a small, stubborn contingent of fans is saying the same, or similar thing, it’s probably mostly true. The line was pretty good this game, so you can’t blame them.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
I’m a Giants fan, when the QB who has led us for the past 15 years has become mediocre, I start to get pretty annoyed, normal right? Nah, I guess I have to be content with 5 yard passes 90% of the time, negative mobility, and overall shotty (to say the least) decision making. When everyone who watches the sport besides a small, stubborn contingent of fans is saying the same, or similar thing, it’s probably mostly true. The line was pretty good this game, so you can’t blame them.
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You're actually being really kind when you call him mediocre, he's one of the worst starting qb's in the league and has been the past couple of years. Don't let the completion % and lack of int's fool you. It's pretty damn easy to complete 4 yard screen passes but it's not a recipe to win NFL games.
 
Devland said:
I was listening to the post game in the car. By listening to Beckham you would have thought the Giants won. All he talked about was what a positive effect his comments during the week had on his team. It is part of him becoming a leader (his words).
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Beckham is a flat out strange guy.
 
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superjohn said:
He's not even mediocre, he's one of the worst starting qb's in the league and has been the past couple of years. Don't let the completion % and lack of int's fool you. It's pretty damn easy to complete 4 yard screen passes but it's not a recipe to win NFL games.
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Agree.
 
Beckham has unique God given talents that potentially make him one of the greatest in history BUT the guy is a walking time bomb, to the point where I seriously think he is touched in the head
Glad he is a GMan.................I think.
 
gtcam said:
Beckham has unique God given talents that potentially make him one of the greatest in history BUT the guy is a walking time bomb, to the point where I seriously think he is touched in the head
Glad he is a GMan.......I think.
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He needs a QB who can allow him to run the deep routes. These short passes create too much physical punishment for Becham.
 
gtcam said:
Beckham has unique God given talents that potentially make him one of the greatest in history BUT the guy is a walking time bomb, to the point where I seriously think he is touched in the head
Glad he is a GMan.......I think.
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If that’s what it takes for the offense to open up the playbook past page 1, i’m for it. Maybe not totally about the way he went about it, should keep most of that stuff in house, but it got peoples attention, and the offense did look better. We actually threw the ball 20+ yards down the field, nice to see again.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
If that’s what it takes for the offense to open up the playbook past page 1, i’m for it. Maybe not totally about the way he went about it, should keep most of that stuff in house, but it got peoples attention, and the offense did look better. We actually threw the ball 20+ yards down the field, nice to see again.
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Most of the reason they were able to throw downfield today was this was the first game they had the time to. Was it because the o-line played better? Or was Carolina's pass rush bad? The future games will tell.
 
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Devland said:
Most of the reason they were able to throw downfield today was this was the first game they had the time to. Was it because the o-line played better? Or was Carolina's pass rush bad? The future games will tell.
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That definitely played a role, but it was also a concerted effort to look downfield. It's not that receivers weren't open or Eli didn't have time, a lot of the time they were just checking down before anyone could get into their routes.
 
On a day he leads the team down the field in the last two minutes for what should have been a great road win the Eli haters just can’t help themselves.

He’s past his prime sure - but with time to pass he can still be a quality QB.
In the final drive he went 75 yards in four plays that took about 60 seconds, including a great 40 yard pass to Shepard.

They lost today because of a freakish special teams TD, horrible officiating which will likely lead to an NFL apology and a ridiculous FG.
 
Eli isn't the worst QB in the league, but I think the biggest problem is we might not have the draft capital to move on next year. We didn't have to play the guy we could've drafted this year, but having a plan in place would've been nice.
 
The Viking said:
In the final drive he went 75 yards in four plays that took about 60 seconds, including a great 40 yard pass to Shepard.
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Sure would be nice if he could do things similar to that before we're down. Or if he could do that more often in general.
 
I mean I’ll settle for him doing it when the game is on the line like he did today but whatever floats your boat
 
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To those worried that we didn’t get a QB this past draft don’t worry we are going to have a top ten pick again this year - and we have Barkley who is a hell of a player
 
The Viking said:
To those worried that we didn’t get a QB this past draft don’t worry we are going to have a top ten pick again this year - and we have Barkley who is a hell of a player
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This is the motivation between a lot of my disappointment in the Barkley pick. Even if we have a top 10 pick this draft is very weak in terms of QBs. Herbert probably goes top 10 and maybe top 5 just because he's a QB but there's nothing behind him if we miss on him
 
navery12 said:
This is the motivation between a lot of my disappointment in the Barkley pick. Even if we have a top 10 pick this draft is very weak in terms of QBs. Herbert probably goes top 10 and maybe top 5 just because he's a QB but there's nothing behind him if we miss on him
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Last year was a very strong QB draft, they had 2 overall and used it on a beach house.

They're 4-18 in their last 22 games. Eli played 21 of them. C'mon. Its over.
 
zls44 said:
Last year was a very strong QB draft, they had 2 overall and used it on a beach house.

They're 4-18 in their last 22 games. Eli played 21 of them. C'mon. Its over.
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This.

It's nuts, Eli never should have been QB even last year, to not have a plan in place was just prolonging the rebuild and then to be in position to snag a QB in a QB stacked class and instead opting for a luxury is just crazy. It doesn't matter how great Barkley is, it's a QB league and as you say they bought a beach house when they need an entire new roof on their house.
 
I only caught 5 minuts of the game before I had to run off for my son's soccer game; but, man, that 15 yard flag on Collins (?) for hit to the head/roughness/pass interference/etc. was complete BS as all of the players were simply going for the ball. The Carolina reciever actually ran into him as the Giants DB had a better angle on the pass than he did.

As for the Giants overall, as long as they keep beating the Pats in the Super Bowl, I really don't care what else they do.
 
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Should/Should have gone after Bridgewater. May be in the minority but I think he can still be a good starting Quarterback.
 
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