OT: FBI has reportedly arrested several NCAA basketball assistant coaches.

[ctchamps]

I agree with this except for the last part. As I posted on the football board basketball is likely way dirtier for several reasons. The impact of a single player is much bigger. You could put Tom Brady on UConn and we probably beat East Carolina. The Virginia game is closer but we still lose. Too

In hoops there is an "infrastructure" in the AAU system funded by the very same companies that fund the bribes. That doesn't exist in football.

The 1 and done system encourages this . In football you need to wait 3-5 years to earn your return and over that period there can be huge changes from injury to coaching to schematic. And the payoff is not as good. Unless you luck out and land the 1st draft pick, a highly unpredictable bet, it's likely you are paying for a guy who is going to earn less initially and over his career.

I'm going to bet that unlike what was a nationwide project funded by major corporations, most football payments are relatively small and "local" in the sense that they are funded by boosters, not international corporations.

Different players but I bet the bowl people and media types are making sure certain players are getting funneled to certain programs and I'd wager the overall monies far exceed what the shoe companies and agents are throwing at a few prime hs bb athletes.

 

[JeepCSC]

They currently are on probation with SACS. So is UNC btw. They were up for a review to change status but that is unlikely now. If they are dropped from accreditation that will make the NCAA death penalty seem like a slap on the wrist. Won't happen because Virginia is chair of the reviewing committee.

Link to SACS website/FAQ:

http://www.sacscoc.org/FAQsanswers.asp

UNC isn't on probation fwiw.

 

[ctchamps]

UNC isn't on probation fwiw.

Should have written in the past. Thanks.

 

[2Infinity]

UNC isn't on probation fwiw.

Looks like it was restored last year after a year on probation. Think the athletes now need to actually attend a few classes.

SACS Restores UNC to Full Accreditation - UNC General Alumni Association

 

[Guapo]

Looks like it was restored last year after a year on probation. Think the athletes now need to actually attend a few classes.

SACS Restores UNC to Full Accreditation - UNC General Alumni Association

There was no way a school like UNC would lose its accreditation. Louisville, on the other hand...

 

[Guapo]

They currently are on probation with SACS. So is UNC btw. They were up for a review to change status but that is unlikely now. If they are dropped from accreditation that will make the NCAA death penalty seem like a slap on the wrist. Won't happen because Virginia is chair of the reviewing committee.

Link to SACS website/FAQ:

http://www.sacscoc.org/FAQsanswers.asp

Hey now, that sounds to me like the perfect way to kick them out of the ACC while the conference keeps its hands clean, officially.

 

[Guapo]

Also: hey UVA! You never wanted Louisville, you wanted UConn.

Now's your chance to make it happen!

 

[ctchamps]

Hey now, that sounds to me like the perfect way to kick them out of the ACC while the conference keeps its hands clean, officially.

Was just going to post the following quote from infinity linked article making the same claim:

That committee’s visit is Sept. 19-21, and the SACS board meets December to review U of L’s progress. Depending on results, SACS will either remove U of L from probation, extend the probation another year, or remove the university’s accreditation. Losing accreditation means academic degrees lose value, credits will not transfer from U of L, federal financial aid will not be available and the university cannot participate in the NCAA.

 

[CL82]

There was no way a school like UNC would lose its accreditation. Louisville, on the other hand...

I don't know. What's worse offering fake classes or offering worthless ones?

 

[Guapo]

I don't know. What's worse offering fake classes or offering worthless ones?

The school in subject matters

 

[Husky25]

 

[kobe]

Come on, dream bigger!! Am I alone in thinking Arizona and Miller specifically are likely toast? I know there was talk that someone spoke about Miller desperate to land some guy that payouts were being discussed for, and that's just talk, but I'm hoping there are details, conversations, emails that implicate him. That situation stunk for years now

I want Kansas too

Xavier plox

 

[FriarJ]

Looks like it was restored last year after a year on probation. Think the athletes now need to actually attend a few classes.

SACS Restores UNC to Full Accreditation - UNC General Alumni Association

My gut tells me that this is going to give the NCAA the balls to come down hard on UNC.

 

[Guapo]

My gut tells me that this is going to give the NCAA the balls to come down hard on UNC.

You know how I know PC fans don't get college sports...

 

[ctchamps]

My gut tells me that this is going to give the NCAA the balls to come down hard on UNC.

You know how I know PC fans don't get college sports...

I'm in agreement with Friar but for a different reason. They'll come down hard on UNC because of this situation. It's called CYA. The NCAA will want the world to falsely believe they are a bastion of integrity.

 

[huskymedic]

LOL - #headfake

They are moving to Adidas in 2018 lol

SI: Paul Johnson: I’m glad we’re with Russell Athletic

Have to wonder if they re-think it.

 

[2Infinity]

My gut tells me that this is going to give the NCAA the balls to come down hard on UNC.

I happen to agree with you. The NCAA has proven repeatedly that they play favorites with the P5's privileged programs. If the NCAA hopes to survive this rocky period, then instead of paying lip service to their compliance oversight duties, they'll need to prove they can still do their job. If not, I expect Congress, prompted by the FBI investigation and public outcry, to take up the issue of it's tax-exempt status.

 

[Guapo]

I'm in agreement with Friar but for a different reason. They'll come down hard on UNC because of this situation. It's called CYA. The NCAA will want the world to falsely believe they are a bastion of integrity.

Hey I hope both of you are right.

I also hope to one day see pigs fly

 

[80shusky]

My gut tells me that this is going to give the NCAA the balls to come down hard on UNC.

I disagree. They are going to use this as cover and hope everyone completely forgets about it.

 

[Northbound]

I want to know where the money Nike and Adidas paid came from. I have trouble paying for a departmental lunch...Do they have a marketing slush fund and expense it as Miscellaneous Expenses.?

Easily - $150K is a rounding error - I remember when I was a pup and a client sent me and two photographers to Miami for a week, then to Moab, Utah for a week to shoot. I came back and said to the client what to we want to do with the photos - he says keep them I had to spend the budget and I figured why not send you to some cool places while I did it.

That was a long time ago and that was probably $40-$60K all in with special rigging, etc.

Edit to amend for the damn iphone

 

[2Infinity]

John Wall, once the nation's top recruit, on the NCAA basketball FBI allegations

Kind of refreshing to hear a player, actually a couple, who could have been influenced at the time, NOT blaming the system.

 

[Guapo]

Also: hey UVA! You never wanted Louisville, you wanted UConn.

Now's your chance to make it happen!

Calling @Dooley wherever you are.

I saw your tweets re: ACC needing 11/14 to vote Louisville out. Please also consider this...

 

[huskymedic]

>>Oklahoma State officially fired associate head coach Lamont Evans for cause Thursday. The university announced his termination at 3:45 p.m. Evans had been suspended with pay since Tuesday. He is one of 10, including four men's basketball assistant coaches, charged in a bribery and corruption investigation by the FBI.

Court documents allege Evans received at least $22,000 in bribes in exchange for influencing student-athletes during his time at South Carolina and Oklahoma State to retain business advisory and/or investment management services from the bribe payers.<<

 

[huskymedic]

 

[scoobydoo]

Under review, is my understanding.

And now with Jurich gone, they won't be able to bribe their way to accreditation like they did to get in the ACC.

 

[UCDaveD]

And now with Jurich gone, they won't be able to bribe their way to accreditation like they did to get in the ACC.

No doubt in my mind that they payolla'd their way into the ACC. Sure helps Adidas if Louisville's perception is raised by association with a P5 conference. Florida St, Georgia Tech, Clemson, wouldn't be surprised if they were all on the take.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[FriarJ]

Thamel, couldn't help taking a shot at the AAC in it.

 

[Kemba429]

As far as between sports, you can make the language be based on revenue. That is 'fair'. Most sports would get nothing.

I just feel if that happened, a lot of lawsuits would happen.

 

[Kemba429]

...and would you adjust for caliber? Is a future NBA stud going to be content to take the same money as a kid who gets a couple of minutes during mop up? Paying players changes nothing regarding this issue.

Im just saying what ive heard other people say. And no they would want more, which would make schools go broke even quicker.