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An actual post I saw on the Louisville board this morning...

Agreed. Jurich did not run a crooked program. If that was the case you would have had problems with other sports teams like baseball or football and you did not have this.

All of our "sports enemies" want to see Jurich gone and UofL return to being mediocre.

Jurich needs to be retained. I do feel that powers behind the scenes that are Anti Louisville are pulling levers that are harmful to UofL.
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They are past the point of no return.
 
freescooter said:
I think playing players is a long term disaster. It turns the sport into the d-league and who is going to care about that long term? Nobody. And a number of schools won't do it either because they can't or just won't for philosophical reasons. So who is going to watch March Madness when it involves 16 teams from P5 minor leagues and who is going to pay billions to do it?

What needs to happen is to end the 1-done program. Tell the NBA we aren't going to be your whores anymore. And tell the coaches that you recruit those guys at your peril. Guy leaves early you lose the scholarship until his class would have graduated.

The second thing is the shoe companies need to be out of the AAU program and that needs to happen tomorrow. Deprived of big money it may not disappear but will shrink back to what it was meant to be.

Third a few guys need to go to jail. Not assistants but the likes of Pitino.

Fourth, Louisville needs to get the death penalty. Followed by a long term ban and combined with a television ban. Why no tv? It also hurts the Conference who suddenly loses a chunk of its inventory. Sorry Johnny, you play with scum you get dirty. That would hurt more than the tourney ban I bet. Id be tempted to add Miami to that penalty too. Aren't they also on probation? Frankly you need to absolutely destroy a program such that they can't come back for a decade or more and I can't think of a better example. Then finally a couple of players who got paid need to spend some time making Little Rock's out of big rocks too. If Mr. Bowen were to find himself spending the next few years shooting jumpers in a prison yard somewhere instead of the Yum Center or MSG it could send a message to these punks that it isn't worth the risk.
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This actually makes sense - but I’m sitting in an emergency room so my cognitive capabilities my be compromised.
 
The silver lining in our recruitment of 3/4 star prospects of late:
I doubt we are wiring 100k through Nike to secure the commitment of Tyler Polley.
 
Stinger92860 said:
I think the NBA will step in here, as there is more money available to them. I was listening to Solo last night. He suggested expanding the NBA G league and implementing the same system they use in Europe. Sign the kids when they are 16 and develop them. No more one and done, no more academic scandals. I'd rather see this, than paying for kids to play in college. You have to assume football is more dirty, not sure what to do there.
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The NBA is a part of the problem ,to suggest the’re a solution by essentially destroying college basketball doesn’t seem like a very great plan
There are 30,000 kids playing D1 college basketball. The idea that college B.B. is the handful of kids that don’t want to be there is and insult perpetrated on those other kids, by the Media to promote their other products . This kid and the money surrounding him is the root problem and the NBA dream that turns into a nightmare for most ,is a big part of that evil.
Immediately end the one and done rule . That’s a start
The baseball rules although not perfect are s much better solution. If the kid has to be a regular student for at least three years There is a chance that the he might actually leave with something of value for the time spent. If a kid has no interest in going to school that’s his prerogative but a kid skating around the academic system for a year just to fulfill a bogus rule is demeaning to the real student athletes who are using their physical gifts to better themselves and their families.
The reality is with a couple of exceptions these kids have brought little value to their teams other than media hype.
The Soccer/Hockey systems are rift with abuse with a 14 year old kids reduced to a commodity . The ones that don’t make it end up with nothing except broken bodies.
We had a good system called the intercollegiate system that enabled many from poor areas to get an education that otherwise would have been reserved for the privileged.
Why not figure a way to preserve that as it actually serves the greater good ,instead of rotating the system around a handful of alleged elites.
 
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UConnSwag11 said:
what year did this investigation start?
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The investigation began in 2015 but as something completely different. They stumbled into this stuff and it seems most of this happened in the last 8 weeks, at least the Louisville stuff.
 
I want to know where the money Nike and Adidas paid came from. I have trouble paying for a departmental lunch........Do they have a marketing slush fund and expense it as Miscellaneous Expenses......?
 
UCweCONN said:
I want to know where the money Nike and Adidas paid came from. I have trouble paying for a departmental lunch...Do they have a marketing slush fund and expense it as Miscellaneous Expenses.?
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Yes. That's Gatto.
 
methodology said:
Not going to happen. Nba uses college bball as its farm system at no cost. They aren't going to spend the multimillion dollars to create the infrastructure and pay coaches, trainers, etc. There about 400 NBA players (roughly) these college kids aren't going to want to live in the conditions minor leaguers live in making peanuts. Just ask any minor league baseball or hockey guy. These bball players are naive to how well off they have it compared to other sports
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The NBA is making money on the summer league. They can make money on a new g league also.
 
freescooter said:
I'm going to bet that unlike what was a nationwide project funded by major corporations, most football payments are relatively small and "local" in the sense that they are funded by boosters, not international corporations.
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This, I believe is the main difference between what is going on in football and what has happened here with the FBI. The FBI does not really care if Cam Newton gets a suitcase full of cash from some guy in Alabama, but it does care if major corporations are committing prosecutable crimes. Nike, Adidas, and Under Armour are less likely to be looking for a college to sign a particular football player because football players don't have the same ability to drive people to their brand. Nike built a whole offshoot around Jordan. Everyone wants to wear Jordan's. Some people wanted to wear Kobe's, hell, some people even wanted to wear Starbury's. Look at the Ball's. Daddy Ball knows there is more money to be made off of a shoe than playing basketball. Football is not even close in this regard. Any footballer ever have a shoe? No, for several reasons which we don't need to get into but there is a major difference between Adidas wiring $150K in payments to someone they think they can make $10M from in the long run vs. bubba handing Cam a bag of cash because he wants to see his favorite team win on Saturday. The NCAA may care about both, but look the other way. The FBI only cares about one of these.
 
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2Infinity said:
Yum! Center chairman says UofL basketball scandal presents ‘serious challenge’ to refinancing arena bonds

I guess you could call this unfortunate timing. :rolleyes:

Yum! Center chairman says UofL basketball scandal presents 'serious challenge' to refinancing arena bonds - Insider Louisville
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Wow. UofL taking massive finacial hits.

With all the sleaziness in their BB program, the Yum, their accreditation, the football program... I still wonder if something untoward happened with them getting in the ACC.
 
UCweCONN said:
I want to know where the money Nike and Adidas paid came from. I have trouble paying for a departmental lunch...Do they have a marketing slush fund and expense it as Miscellaneous Expenses.?
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your departmental lunch isn't offering potential returns of 10-20x or more.
 
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Chuck said:
What I'll look like when Louisville and Miami get hammered (and UConn remains clear).
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Come on, dream bigger!! Am I alone in thinking Arizona and Miller specifically are likely toast? I know there was talk that someone spoke about Miller desperate to land some guy that payouts were being discussed for, and that's just talk, but I'm hoping there are details, conversations, emails that implicate him. That situation stunk for years now

I want Kansas too
 
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Guapo said:
What is Louisville's current accreditation status?
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They currently are on probation with SACS. So is UNC btw. They were up for a review to change status but that is unlikely now. If they are dropped from accreditation that will make the NCAA death penalty seem like a slap on the wrist. Won't happen because Virginia is chair of the reviewing committee.

Link to SACS website/FAQ:

http://www.sacscoc.org/FAQsanswers.asp
 
auror said:
The investigation began in 2015 but as something completely different. They stumbled into this stuff and it seems most of this happened in the last 8 weeks, at least the Louisville stuff.
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The recordings, taps, videos all got done within the last year. That's when this investigation went to the next level. They have these guys dead to rights and expect at least some to talk.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
The NBA is a part of the problem ,to suggest the’re a solution by essentially destroying college basketball doesn’t seem like a very great plan
There are 30,000 kids playing D1 college basketball. The idea that college B.B. is the handful of kids that don’t want to be there is and insult perpetrated on those other kids, by the Media to promote their other products . This kid and the money surrounding him is the root problem and the NBA dream that turns into a nightmare for most ,is a big part of that evil.
Immediately end the one and done rule . That’s a start
The baseball rules although not perfect are s much better solution. If the kid has to be a regular student for at least three years There is a chance that the he might actually leave with something of value for the time spent. If a kid has no interest in going to school that’s his prerogative but a kid skating around the academic system for a year just to fulfill a bogus rule is demeaning to the real student athletes who are using their physical gifts to better themselves and their families.
The reality is with a couple of exceptions these kids have brought little value to their teams other than media hype.
The Soccer/Hockey systems are rift with abuse with a 14 year old kids reduced to a commodity . The ones that don’t make it end up with nothing except broken bodies.
We had a good system called the intercollegiate system that enabled many from poor areas to get an education that otherwise would have been reserved for the privileged.
Why not figure a way to preserve that as it actually serves the greater good ,instead of rotating the system around a handful of alleged elites.
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There's a problem here. People like Bilas are saying that college players have a market snd should be paid accordingly. But the market here is high school players wanted by shoe companies. So I think it is entirely appropriate to suggest that these kids are professionalizing a long time prior to college, and because of that, it really is an NBA issue mostly. The NBA should develop a pro league for 18 year olds. Whether that destroys CB or no is another story.
 
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