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We went to accepted students day at Conn, Syracuse, Nova and Holy Cross; cancelled out on Union’s which is in a few days.

All the schools, save Nova, do a really nice job and seem to be genuinely enthusiastic about the kids they’ve admitted. At the end of it, though, she just loved all the people she met at Connecticut College - it’s nice to talk to the associate dean of whatever at some schools, but at Conn, she met and spoke to the president, dean of admissions, etc., etc.

She loves the people, the campus and the fact that it’s close, but not too close, so that‘s where she’s going. Her mom likes that she has grandparents and uncles relatively close by and her father likes the scholarship.

Schools that we really enjoyed - Conn, Union, Syracuse, Vermont, Georgetown. All really nice people everywhere.

Schools that we could take or leave - Binghamton, American.

Schools that we actively disliked dealing with - Villanova and Providence. I think Nova is just overwhelmed with the number of applications they are getting these days and everything is just kinda rushed. Providence is just a disorganized mess; even the normal campus visit was a dumpster fire - first school she tossed out.
Congrats Fishy.
Believe it or not there is one more huge challenge for Dad. Trying not to let the wife see the tears rolling down your face as you drive home after dropping off the light of your life at her new college home.
 
earned varsity letters in 4 sports
Swap out a letter in one sport for a letter in another?

For example, instead of playing lacrosse as a Sr (after playing varsity as a Jr.), switch to track and field as a senior.
highschool athletics are only worth mentioning in the last line on your resume to demonstrate you are "well rounded" unless you are being recruited to play one of the sports. I might as well have spent my time playing 4 square and dodgeball instead of lettering in 3.
 
Fishy, I am in the same situation with my son. Tough year to be a high school senior going to a competitive school. He scored 1500 on SAT, was president of National Honor Society at his school, earned varsity letters in 4 sports, went to Boys' State, etc. He got rejected from almost every school he applied to. Good news for me is he is going to go to UCONN!
I'm so out of touch with college process today but 1500 used to be a great score, no clue if still is ... so how can that be possible? Was he applying to Oxford, naval academy and West Point etc?
 
Providence is pretty, the location is great and the school is good, but they managed to sing all the wrong notes with our kid.
For what it’s worth, that was my daughters experience at UConn. She knows the campus because we’ve been there often and had ties to the school through her inherited Husky fandom but the tour was entirely “meh”. Rutgers, on the other hand, represents itself surprisingly poorly. A lot of that has to do with the fact that it’s really four or five different campuses combined and lacks the impressive features of a more unified campus.

As a rule of thumb, I found the privates do a much better job presenting their campus, what the students experience will be, and just overall being welcoming. I suppose that’s because they need to be. In any event it worked out for my kids as I am sure it will for your daughter as well.
 
We went to accepted students day at Conn, Syracuse, Nova and Holy Cross; cancelled out on Union’s which is in a few days.

All the schools, save Nova, do a really nice job and seem to be genuinely enthusiastic about the kids they’ve admitted. At the end of it, though, she just loved all the people she met at Connecticut College - it’s nice to talk to the associate dean of whatever at some schools, but at Conn, she met and spoke to the president, dean of admissions, etc., etc.

She loves the people, the campus and the fact that it’s close, but not too close, so that‘s where she’s going. Her mom likes that she has grandparents and uncles relatively close by and her father likes the scholarship.

Schools that we really enjoyed - Conn, Union, Syracuse, Vermont, Georgetown. All really nice people everywhere.

Schools that we could take or leave - Binghamton, American.

Schools that we actively disliked dealing with - Villanova and Providence. I think Nova is just overwhelmed with the number of applications they are getting these days and everything is just kinda rushed. Providence is just a disorganized mess; even the normal campus visit was a dumpster fire - first school she tossed out.
Congratulations. I am weeping right now for Little Fishy. I can't focus on work right now.
 
Swap out a letter in one sport for a letter in another?

For example, instead of playing lacrosse as a Sr (after playing varsity as a Jr.), switch to track and field as a senior.

I'm dumb. lol. Thank you.
 
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I'm getting into this process (gulp) now. As I see it I have 18 months to sell her on the benefits of the California university system. For the people that have gone through it, or are going through it, is there a benefit to seeing these places during the summer? Or do you not get a useful sense of the school when you visit outside of the academic calendar? We had been trying to line up a few trips this summer.

Your kid would be crazy not to go to one of the UC or CSU schools if they can get in. They're fantastic. I doubt money is tight if you're sitting in floor seats at MSG, but the community colleges in Cali are also stellar and guarantee admissions to a bunch of the CS schools.
 
For what it’s worth, that was my daughters experience at UConn. She knows the campus because we’ve been there often and had ties to the school through her inherited Husky fandom but the tour was entirely “meh”. Rutgers, on the other hand, represents itself surprisingly poorly. A lot of that has to do with the fact that it’s really four or five different campuses combined and lacks the impressive features of a more unified campus.

As a rule of thumb, I found the privates do a much better job presenting their campus, what the students experience will be, and just overall being welcoming. I suppose that’s because they need to be. In any event it worked out for my kids as I am sure it will for your daughter as well.
I purposely didn't do the UConn visit with our oldest because I wanted her to experience it free from my influence. She and my wife did the accepted student visit and were both pretty impressed with the presentations and campus, etc. It was another of her final three.

They also really liked UMD.
 
I purposely didn't do the UConn visit with our oldest because I wanted her to experience it free from my influence. She and my wife did the accepted student visit and were both pretty impressed with the presentations and campus, etc. It was another of her final three.

They also really liked UMD.

Seems like SO MANY kids choose between UMD and UConn that I have done admissions stuff with. It's uncanny.
 
The wife and I both graduated from UCONN. We enjoyed it and we are avid fans. Raised 3 sons in a small town. School district K-12 600-700 kids. We thought a smaller college experience would better fit their personalities. The college selection and application process was arduous to say the least. The boys were excellent students and specialized in swimming, track, and golf. They applied to highly competitive schools and having hook was critical. Most DIII schools offer a range of sports but if they play football, basketball, and baseball they had better be stars or the hook doesn't work. Swimming worked for them. We visited 28 colleges between the 3 of them. Tortious! Let them decide. They ended up at Williams, Bowdoin, and Davidson.

One other insight. Pay NO attention to the sticker price. Look for schools with substantial endowments. They will give kids substantial discounts if they have the funds. We felt like we were campaigning dogs during the entire process. We were SO glad when we were done.

Good luck!
 
The boys were excellent students and specialized in swimming, track, and golf.

This isn't specialization, lol.

Bless your heart for going on 28 college visits. I went on 3 as a high school junior and hated every second of it.
 
Fishy, I am in the same situation with my son. Tough year to be a high school senior going to a competitive school. He scored 1500 on SAT, was president of National Honor Society at his school, earned varsity letters in 4 sports, went to Boys' State, etc. He got rejected from almost every school he applied to. Good news for me is he is going to go to UCONN!
Wow... startling.

I can only think of one explanation, and that's testing optionals getting a huge number of seats.
 
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I'm so out of touch with college process today but 1500 used to be a great score, no clue if still is ... so how can that be possible? Was he applying to Oxford, naval academy and West Point etc?
It's the equivalent of a 1400 from before the new scoring system installed 20 years ago.

1400 was Ivy level back then, but the schools haven't opened more seats despite the rise in population.
 
I'm getting into this process (gulp) now. As I see it I have 18 months to sell her on the benefits of the California university system. For the people that have gone through it, or are going through it, is there a benefit to seeing these places during the summer? Or do you not get a useful sense of the school when you visit outside of the academic calendar? We had been trying to line up a few trips this summer.
Go during the school year. When I spent a week on Cal San Diego's campus, I thought it was the most fantastic campus I'd ever seen. Loved it. But all the students walking around in that beautiful sunshine were sullen. Student bodies have their own vibe despite some beautiful surroundings.
 
We went to accepted students day at Conn, Syracuse, Nova and Holy Cross; cancelled out on Union’s which is in a few days.

All the schools, save Nova, do a really nice job and seem to be genuinely enthusiastic about the kids they’ve admitted. At the end of it, though, she just loved all the people she met at Connecticut College - it’s nice to talk to the associate dean of whatever at some schools, but at Conn, she met and spoke to the president, dean of admissions, etc., etc.

She loves the people, the campus and the fact that it’s close, but not too close, so that‘s where she’s going. Her mom likes that she has grandparents and uncles relatively close by and her father likes the scholarship.

Schools that we really enjoyed - Conn, Union, Syracuse, Vermont, Georgetown. All really nice people everywhere.

Schools that we could take or leave - Binghamton, American.

Schools that we actively disliked dealing with - Villanova and Providence. I think Nova is just overwhelmed with the number of applications they are getting these days and everything is just kinda rushed. Providence is just a disorganized mess; even the normal campus visit was a dumpster fire - first school she tossed out.
Congratulations to your daughter.
 
I'm getting into this process (gulp) now. As I see it I have 18 months to sell her on the benefits of the California university system. For the people that have gone through it, or are going through it, is there a benefit to seeing these places during the summer? Or do you not get a useful sense of the school when you visit outside of the academic calendar? We had been trying to line up a few trips this summer.
One, you've got a great state U system the rest of us would envy. As for summer visits, I would say yes, there is a benefit. But that depends on your kid and what they are looking for. My daughter visited Storrs and knew for sure she didn't want that, even without the visit. I'd say that if he/she is thinking about U Colorado for example, visiting Boulder even out of session will help narrow things down. The Berkeley campus is certainly a lot different than Davis, and UCSC is frankly an outlier to every campus I've ever seen. I think you can use summer to narrow things down based on campus size, feel, urban/rural/suburban. Then you can go back to the possible choices in the fall.
 
Go during the school year. When I spent a week on Cal San Diego's campus, I thought it was the most fantastic campus I'd ever seen. Loved it. But all the students walking around in that beautiful sunshine were sullen. Student bodies have their own vibe despite some beautiful surroundings.
A co-worker who attended Holy Cross told me he never would have gone if he toured it in winter. Weather matters, at least around here.
 
I'm getting into this process (gulp) now. As I see it I have 18 months to sell her on the benefits of the California university system. For the people that have gone through it, or are going through it, is there a benefit to seeing these places during the summer? Or do you not get a useful sense of the school when you visit outside of the academic calendar? We had been trying to line up a few trips this summer.

My advice is….start early. The pandemic really killed us there. Definitely go in the summer to get a look at the campuses - you will be going back in the fall or spring to see again the ones she is interested in.

Make a point to demonstrate interest to her top schools - tours, online sessions, interviews, etc. That matters.

The Cal system is excellent, so I am sure no issue there. But again, start early, start early, start early….the time freaking flies.
 
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I'm so out of touch with college process today but 1500 used to be a great score, no clue if still is ... so how can that be possible? Was he applying to Oxford, naval academy and West Point etc?
The SAT's are different than they were back in the day. 1500 is still a really great score but the test is considered easier now and the scale is different. My brother who is 50 now got a 1500 back in the day (800 on math and 700 on verbal) the first and only time he took the test. His score was so uncommon he was advised not to take it again for fear he would get a perfect score. That was a ridiculously high score back then and got him into the Ivy League schools he applied to without him ever really applying himself in school or doing any extracurriculars. They felt that if he got a perfect score it would show he doesn't apply himself at all.
 
Fishy, I am in the same situation with my son. Tough year to be a high school senior going to a competitive school. He scored 1500 on SAT, was president of National Honor Society at his school, earned varsity letters in 4 sports, went to Boys' State, etc. He got rejected from almost every school he applied to. Good news for me is he is going to go to UCONN!

It was an absolutely brutal year.

Test optional kids flooded the system and just took seats away. Your son’s application likely got three seconds of review.

My daughter got waitlisted at G’town, American(!) and either got waitlisted or rejected by Tufts. Normal year…she likely gets into all three and maybe has a puncher’s chance at one of the lesser Ivys. This year….we did not even bother because we saw the crazy application numbers last year.
 
Your kid would be crazy not to go to one of the UC or CSU schools if they can get in. They're fantastic. I doubt money is tight if you're sitting in floor seats at MSG, but the community colleges in Cali are also stellar and guarantee admissions to a bunch of the CS schools.

Trust me I've been dropping subliminal hints about how great Berkeley is for months, but in a teenager's mind the Bay Area might as well be a suburb of Los Angeles - she thinks her mother is going to be popping in on weekends. She's got NYU on the brain but my hope is we go for a visit and she backs off the idea of going to school in NY. I'm tempted to take her to St. Johns and pay some student to tell her it's NYU and the west village isn't as nice as it seems.
 
Good to hear about Marist, thanks. We did the Walkway over the Hudson (after grabbing a bite at Lola's) because I wanted her get a sense of how freaking massive it is. She thought it was pretty cool. We stayed in Poughkeepsie several years ago on one of our visits to Levon Helm's barn and I remember enjoying a couple good meals at a restaurant named Crew, which I see is still in business; as well as the Half Time craft beer store where I spent several hundred dollars, back when I was a hop head.

I also dig all those other cool towns nearby. I think it's a neat area to explore, and not a bad home base for four years, assuming you take advantage of the NYC access and study abroad.


They are decent on merit aid, but they also start from a much lower sticker price than most. It would have ended up in the same ballpark as UConn would have been for us, which was our measuring stick then. Hoping for the same outcome this time...


Crew and Halftime are both still there.

There are a bunch of good restaurants in the area. A ton of bad ones, too.

What I love about Lola’s is that periodically, the owners scrap what they’re doing and just completely change the restaurant. New name, new menu.
 
What I love about Lola’s is that periodically, the owners scrap what they’re doing and just completely change the restaurant. New name, new menu.
Yeah, I figured that the Lolita’s Pizza part was an experiment of theirs; we stuck with the wraps, sandwiches and fries. All solid, but we hadn’t eaten all day and can’t say we were the most discriminating diners at that point.

It was nice to walk it off immediately afterwards on the Walkway.
 
Trust me I've been dropping subliminal hints about how great Berkeley is for months, but in a teenager's mind the Bay Area might as well be a suburb of Los Angeles - she thinks her mother is going to be popping in on weekends. She's got NYU on the brain but my hope is we go for a visit and she backs off the idea of going to school in NY. I'm tempted to take her to St. Johns and pay some student to tell her it's NYU and the west village isn't as nice as it seems.
If you're lucky, maybe you'll get mugged. Take her to UC Santa Cruz, I guarantee her mom could pop in on weekends and still never find her. Seems she wants a city experience like mine did. I discovered none of them are cheap, at least not on the east coast. UDub maybe? It's kind of funky and cool, cheaper than NYU.
 
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It was an absolutely brutal year.

Test optional kids flooded the system and just took seats away. Your son’s application likely got three seconds of review.

My daughter got waitlisted at G’town, American(!) and either got waitlisted or rejected by Tufts. Normal year…she likely gets into all three and maybe has a puncher’s chance at one of the lesser Ivys. This year….we did not even bother because we saw the crazy application numbers last year.

Yep. I'm in same boat with my oldest. Kid's an eagle scout, HM all conf in Football, and on a robotics team that's going to the world championships next week.

Test-optional and the common app is the admissions comparison to the transfer portal. Just a flood.

Wait-listed at WPI and Lehigh (latter somewhat expected), but got into Virginia Tech, UConn, RPI and RIT. He's going to be a hokie, which is hilarious when you consider he wanted a small school, close to home, and cheap. He picked the opposite of all 3. LOL the 18 yo brain.
 
We went to accepted students day at Conn, Syracuse, Nova and Holy Cross; cancelled out on Union’s which is in a few days.

All the schools, save Nova, do a really nice job and seem to be genuinely enthusiastic about the kids they’ve admitted. At the end of it, though, she just loved all the people she met at Connecticut College - it’s nice to talk to the associate dean of whatever at some schools, but at Conn, she met and spoke to the president, dean of admissions, etc., etc.

She loves the people, the campus and the fact that it’s close, but not too close, so that‘s where she’s going. Her mom likes that she has grandparents and uncles relatively close by and her father likes the scholarship.

Schools that we really enjoyed - Conn, Union, Syracuse, Vermont, Georgetown. All really nice people everywhere.

Schools that we could take or leave - Binghamton, American.

Schools that we actively disliked dealing with - Villanova and Providence. I think Nova is just overwhelmed with the number of applications they are getting these days and everything is just kinda rushed. Providence is just a disorganized mess; even the normal campus visit was a dumpster fire - first school she tossed out.
Congrats. As I said earlier my daughter is a Sophomore there and has really done well, and I have no complaints so far. I can hook her up with your daughter if she has any questions, the dorms, class registration, clubs, or anything else. You also might want to join the Conn College Parents and Families Facebook group, it is a good resource, and it is fun to see the super uber-helicopter parents freak out when their kid complains about the type of fish in the sushi-bowls.
 
Trust me I've been dropping subliminal hints about how great Berkeley is for months, but in a teenager's mind the Bay Area might as well be a suburb of Los Angeles - she thinks her mother is going to be popping in on weekends. She's got NYU on the brain but my hope is we go for a visit and she backs off the idea of going to school in NY. I'm tempted to take her to St. Johns and pay some student to tell her it's NYU and the west village isn't as nice as it seems.
We did a family trip to CA several summers ago and did an overnight in SLO. I woke up the next day and tried to sell our oldest on studying urban planning at Cal Poly.
 
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