OT: Boston Marathon Bombing Suspects

[superjohn]

They are being questioned.

 

[phillionaire]

America

 

[upstater]

Now, let's find out exactly why these cretins did this.

The man with the answers is probably dead: http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/201...-immigrants/AGztkXv4Y9b6sfAsVzcDQO/story.html

 

[upstater]

CNN reported that the FBI interviewed the older brother in 2011 at the request from a foreign government, they had info that said he had ties to an extremist group. The FBI searched him and told the foreign government that they had no reason to believe he had extremist ties.

If the foreign gov't was Russia asking that he be interrogated about ties, then the FBI's behavior is typical. Remember, both Bush and Obama pressured Russia for its treatment of both Chechnya and Georgia.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I think huskyhawk and upstater could go on for hours.

Sorry, back from job anchoring the news during the crisis. Did I miss something?

 

[dsturdy5]

The man with the answers is probably dead: http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/201...-immigrants/AGztkXv4Y9b6sfAsVzcDQO/story.html

I read that earlier and felt that if he was taken alive, it would be a convenient defense. Blame the dead, older brother.

 

[upstater]

I read that earlier and felt that if he was taken alive, it would be a convenient defense. Blame the dead, older brother.

What defense? Seen leaving a bomb, robbing a store, taking part in murder of officer at MIT. I'm struggling to think how he can find an insanity defense. A defense of "my brother forced me" doesn't get you off. He would plead insanity but I don't think that option is there as a terrorist.

 

[dsturdy5]

What defense? Seen leaving a bomb, robbing a store, taking part in murder of officer at MIT. I'm struggling to think how he can find an insanity defense. A defense of "my brother forced me" doesn't get you off. He would plead insanity but I don't think that option is there as a terrorist.

Didn't say it would get him off, nothing will. However, there will be a defense.

 

[Fishy]

Fair enough, but I disagree. If I'm some disaffected 22 year old loser fantasizing about jihad in my parents' basement, it's probably pretty encouraging to know that I can completely shut down a major American city with a couple homemade bombs.

Two guys injured almost 200 people with homemade bombs they placed in plain view at one of the world's biggest sporting events.

Then, they murdered a cop and hijacked a car. Afterwards, they shot another cop and then engaged in a firefight complete with 200 rounds and however many grenades. When older brother got plinked, younger brother drove over his freaking body to escape.

This is not the typical disaffected loser. I doubt you have the stuff to shut down an entire city, but these two cats certainly did - the last thing we needed was a desperation rush onto a T or into a metro station or a day care or lord knows what.

 

[Dove]

In Chechnya this would be ideal. But in Watertown Massachusetts on a cool day in April...not so much.

 

[MattMang23]

Thank God this manhunt is over. Great work by all the law enforcement and emergency personnel.

Hopefully we can get back to normality rather swiftly, which for the boneyard means we can get back to complaining about uniforms, HCPP's mismanagement of the game clock, the AAC, and Warde Manuel's diet- conversations I welcome much more than conversations pertaining to this current subject.

 

[sledog]

Whatever happened with the 2 grabbed at the Niagara Falls bridge??

or the Norwalk train stop-and-search?

 

[boog204]

Whatever happened with the 2 grabbed at the Niagara Falls bridge??

or the Norwalk train stop-and-search?

The train was stopped, searched, and then let go... I believe that they thought that perhaps either a 3rd suspect or white hat had boarded the train.

 

[WallStreetHusky]

Thank God this manhunt is over. Great work by all the law enforcement and emergency personnel.

Hopefully we can get back to normality rather swiftly, which for the boneyard means we can get back to complaining about uniforms, HCPP's mismanagement of the game clock, the AAC, and Warde Manuel's diet- conversations I welcome much more than conversations pertaining to this current subject.

Am I the only one who finds the most frightening part of this manhunt is that some guy outside smoking a cigerette found this assclown in 5 minutes when thousands of law enforcement didn't think of actually lifting stuff up and looking underneath to find someone hiding??!

Sorry to be the buzz kill, but seriously?

 

[CAHUSKY]

Am I the only one who finds the most frightening part of this manhunt is that some guy outside smoking a cigerette found this assclown in 5 minutes when thousands of law enforcement didn't think of actually lifting stuff up and looking underneath to find someone hiding??!

Sorry to be the buzz kill, but seriously?

Do we know he was in the boat when the police searched the area earlier? He may have wandered in to the boat after they were there

 

[Dogbreath2U]

The boat was just a block or so outside the search area.

 

[WallStreetHusky]

Do we know he was in the boat when the police searched the area earlier? He may have wandered in to the boat after they were there

I read that the official reason is he was one block outside of the search perimeter, which means he was hiding one block away from thousands of people looking for him. I am not being cynical about law enforcements efforts, but they got lucky, which is my bigger point. A lot of luck, good and bad, is involved in preventing and catching terrorists.

 

[Scoe]

I read that the official reason is he was one block outside of the search perimeter, which means he was hiding one block away from thousands of people looking for him. I am not being cynical about law enforcements efforts, but they got lucky, which is my bigger point. A lot of luck, good and bad, is involved in preventing and catching terrorists.

They probably did get lucky but they did need to protect the community there had to check for explosives. I think they had to display patience through the whole process knowing they had the clear advantage and they did want the suspect alive. Eventually fatigue/hunger was going to wear off, not to mention he was bleeding.

 

[Gurleyman]

I read that the official reason is he was one block outside of the search perimeter, which means he was hiding one block away from thousands of people looking for him. I am not being cynical about law enforcements efforts, but they got lucky, which is my bigger point. A lot of luck, good and bad, is involved in preventing and catching terrorists.

He was covered in blood, in serious medical condition, pretty much exhausted. He was at the end of his rope. He found a boat, but he pretty much could've found some concealed bushes and nobody would have found him until they smelled the corpse.

I don't even think we can call them sophisticated terrorists. They knew how to make homemade bombs, but I don't think top of the line terrorists are going to start robbing 7-11s, shooting cops, carjacking strangers for their ATM money, etc. two days later. They either blow themselves up with the bomb or have some plan of how to fade back into the woodwork. My sense is that there aren't a lot of grand lessons we can take from this ordeal. Hopefully the only lesson is to would-be copycats - that there are too many video cameras and picture-takers out there these days to slink in and out of crowds unnoticed.

 

[Dogbreath2U]

It might be useful for the future to see how they decided the limits of the search area. It looked like there was a big street and stores just south of where he was found in the boat, which might have made a better boundary (e.g. suspect avoiding big streets, open areas where more likely to be seen). I'm sure that it is always a guess where to set the boundary. The high level of alert with the "shelter in" message had everyone on such a high level of vigilance that he would have been found eventually as long as he did not escape the area entirely.

 

[upstater]

Whatever happened with the 2 grabbed at the Niagara Falls bridge??

or the Norwalk train stop-and-search?

They were Turkish kids from Mass. Not Russians or Chechnyans. Stopped for having a Mass. plate.

 

[upstater]

He was covered in blood, in serious medical condition, pretty much exhausted. He was at the end of his rope. He found a boat, but he pretty much could've found some concealed bushes and nobody would have found him until they smelled the corpse.

I don't even think we can call them sophisticated terrorists. They knew how to make homemade bombs, but I don't think top of the line terrorists are going to start robbing 7-11s, shooting cops, carjacking strangers for their ATM money, etc. two days later. They either blow themselves up with the bomb or have some plan of how to fade back into the woodwork. My sense is that there aren't a lot of grand lessons we can take from this ordeal. Hopefully the only lesson is to would-be copycats - that there are too many video cameras and picture-takers out there these days to slink in and out of crowds unnoticed.

Also, posting clips on youtube about your politics is not likely for would be terrorists either.

 

[CL82]

Am I the only one who finds the most frightening part of this manhunt is that some guy outside smoking a cigerette found this assclown in 5 minutes when thousands of law enforcement didn't think of actually lifting stuff up and looking underneath to find someone hiding??!

Sorry to be the buzz kill, but seriously?

Well in their defense, it was bloody. I mean really who'd want to touch that?

 

[sledog]

The train was stopped, searched, and then let go... I believe that they thought that perhaps either a 3rd suspect or white hat had boarded the train.

There is a pix in Sat WSJ of the train stopped on tracks in Norwalk. A friend there said he had heard many sireens at about that time.

But what about the 2 MIT dues with 4 backpacks heading for Canada at Niagra Falls?

 

[CAHUSKY]

But what about the 2 MIT dues with 4 backpacks heading for Canada at Niagra Falls?

http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/crime/authorities-respond-to-scene-in-falls