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OT- Angel Hernandez

mauconnfan said:
The good news is Angel is the least of the Yankee problems. They now need to figure out if Severino is the guy for next year and just a tired arm or do they need to look beyond to put together a staff again. He's been awful minus a game or 2 for 15 starts at least.
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Maybe Boone has do a better job of managing Severino's innings similar to the way Cora handled Sale. His velocity was fine last night but he was missing in the middle of the plate. Even the outs were loud.
If the Yankees lose tonight do you think Boone is back next year? The NY media is killing him.
 
mauconnfan said:
Wow does that hurt someone with all the crap they have dancing on 2nd base with a regular double, really?????? Hilarious,
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Don’t think that’s what he was saying.

More like you can complain about a shake when you have judge doing that.

Both are fine, it just means if the team complaining needs to call leg warehouse first...
 
superjohn said:
This guy has had 5 opportunities to make a call at first base tonight and he's gotten every single call wrong, this should be the last playoff game for Mr. Hernandez.
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He was the only person involved in the game who had a worse night then Aaron Boone.
 
ctkaiser said:
He was the only person involved in the game who had a worse night then Aaron Boone.
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Severino?
 
Severino was doing his best which wasn't very good but Boone needed to get him out sooner and put in a better reliever. 3-0 is still a close game.
 
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ctkaiser said:
Severino was doing his best which wasn't very good but Boone needed to get him out sooner and put in a better reliever. 3-0 is still a close game.
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Sevy was a disaster. Everyone hit him hard, 7 hits and 9 outs. 3-0 and left the bases loaded with no outs. Angel, Sevy, and Boone all stunk. Sevy is probably the only one who didn't know what time the game was.
 
the Q said:
1) it’s not really scalable.

2) you don’t wanna use it with your best starters cause you throw them out of rhythm. You use this more out of need than normal practice.

3) Baseball is a very conservative group (functionally, not politically), it is very resistant to major changes. Although other sports aren’t real any different in this regard.
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Agents and player's association union won't have it because it would also have the effect of suppressing player's salaries. Not just the 1-3 starters but the fourth and fifth starter on a team make more than middle relievers.

The strategy works well in the playoffs as others have noted because it's a short win or go home scenario vice the drudge of a 162 game schedule.
 
I worked in baseball for five years.

There's been a huge push for a ratings system or some sort of umpiring accountability for officiating. Or at least some sort of evaluation that goes on. I'm not a robot umpires guy, but i'm pretty progressive in terms of being a huge analytics guy, etc. But i'm fine with human umps. Just not the bad ones.

And there are so many ways where we can tell if they're bad or not. And there are some that are really, really, really exceptional. But like any union, the umpires union isn't into that. Seniority > performance always.

The older umpires experience skill decline like anyone. Most of them just shouldn't be umpiring. Some of them just weren't ever good mlb umps to begin with. Hernandez by every standard has been objectively bad his entire career AND he's a flaming pile of poo as a person. He's not even that popular among the union guys, but the train of thought (again, union mentality) is you do that with him, flood gates, locusts, famine and the world ends.

What's worse is AAA has some guys who are freaking incredible umps, young and motivated. And they get stuck in AAA for years to the point where they quit because those MLB spots don't open up. Those are the guys I feel bad for.

There's a better way and Hernandez literally can't see past his nose anymore (he couldn't ever, really) and shouldn't be an MLB ump. There should never be a situation where you're correcting 5+ calls in one game due to one guy messing everything up constantly. Bad calls happen, that's why there's replay - and even that's not going to solve all the problems. But last night was past inexcusable by any standard, let alone a playoff series between your league's two marquee franchises.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Agents and player's association union won't have it because it would also have the effect of suppressing player's salaries. Not just the 1-3 starters but the fourth and fifth starter on a team make more than middle relievers.

The strategy works well in the playoffs as others have noted because it's a short win or go home scenario vice the drudge of a 162 game schedule.
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If they were that smart we’d already have the Dan Hurley in both leagues.
 
Towney007 said:
I worked in baseball for five years.

There's been a huge push for a ratings system or some sort of umpiring accountability for officiating. Or at least some sort of evaluation that goes on. I'm not a robot umpires guy, but i'm pretty progressive in terms of being a huge analytics guy, etc. But i'm fine with human umps. Just not the bad ones.

And there are so many ways where we can tell if they're bad or not. And there are some that are really, really, really exceptional. But like any union, the umpires union isn't into that. Seniority > performance always.

The older umpires experience skill decline like anyone. Most of them just shouldn't be umpiring. Some of them just weren't ever good mlb umps to begin with. Hernandez by every standard has been objectively bad his entire career AND he's a flaming pile of poo as a person. He's not even that popular among the union guys, but the train of thought (again, union mentality) is you do that with him, flood gates, locusts, famine and the world ends.

What's worse is AAA has some guys who are freaking incredible umps, young and motivated. And they get stuck in AAA for years to the point where they quit because those MLB spots don't open up. Those are the guys I feel bad for.

There's a better way and Hernandez literally can't see past his nose anymore (he couldn't ever, really) and shouldn't be an MLB ump. There should never be a situation where you're correcting 5+ calls in one game due to one guy messing everything up constantly. Bad calls happen, that's why there's replay - and even that's not going to solve all the problems. But last night was past inexcusable by any standard, let alone a playoff series between your league's two marquee franchises.
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Those old guys are the ones who should be in New York. But even then I wonder what those guys are watching far too often than I should.
 
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15 minutes until first pitch.

Has Sabatthia made it out to bullpen yet to warm up?
 
superjohn said:
People who fight over sports teams=biggest losers on the planet
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Except for soccer Hooligans. There's something pure about a football club vs football club all out brawl. It's its own sport.
 
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Does Boone make it back next year? He's completely asleep at the wheel the past 2 games. Just awful.
 
superjohn said:
Does Boone make it back next year? He's completely asleep at the wheel the past 2 games. Just awful.
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He'll get 1 more season at least... this is tough to watch. How you let CC finish the inning in an elimination game is wild.
 
Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
Yankees fans ridiculous tonight. Groaning on every ball. He’s a bad umpire. We get it
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So far he's been fine. Only one really bad call. Think it was an inside pitch to Bogaerts that he called a strike. Other than that he's been fine.
 
polycom said:
He'll get 1 more season at least... this is tough to watch. How you let CC finish the inning in an elimination game is wild.
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It's honestly unacceptable, we're supposed to have this great bullpen and he gives the game away by keeping Severino in and turning it over to Lance "friggin" Lynn and tonight he sits on his hands again.
 
superjohn said:
It's honestly unacceptable, we're supposed to have this great bullpen and he gives the game away by keeping Severino in and turning it over to Lance "friggin" Lynn and tonight he sits on his hands again.
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Yes Lynn over green was a terrible decision.
 
superjohn said:
It's honestly unacceptable, we're supposed to have this great bullpen and he gives the game away by keeping Severino in and turning it over to Lance "friggin" Lynn and tonight he sits on his hands again.
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I can kind of side with keeping Severino in to at least face the first batter, with someone up in the bullpen, but if that first batter reaches then you have to bring somebody in, and he failed to do that. Then like you said he brought in Lance Lynn, then after that Chad Green who gave up 3 100+ MPH balls in game 1. Was hit hard again last night. Definitely unacceptable lol.
 
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Oh god Barnes is in. You’d think I’d love a Husky turned Red Sox but he makes me pooop my pants.
 
Kemba'sYogurt said:
I can kind of side with keeping Severino in to at least face the first batter, with someone up in the bullpen, but if that first batter reaches then you have to bring somebody in, and he failed to do that. Then like you said he brought in Lance Lynn, then after that Chad Green who gave up 3 100+ MPH balls in game 1. Was hit hard again last night. Definitely unacceptable lol.
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Boone definitely f”d up on Lynn over green. Lynn is a long reliever, why bring him in in a critical inning and a close game? That’s greens spot to get out of that inning, then once the game plays out more, you either fall behind a lot and use Lynn, or if it’s close bring in the big guns. Instead they pitched a catcher in the 9th...
 
If they didn't just fire Girardi I think Boone would be fired over this. Congrats to Boston, should be a great series against the Stros.
 
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