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HuskyFich said:
Our front court is abysmal. Think about how bad we would have been without Josh having a huge jump the second half of the year.

You can’t win in college without a big time front court. Either a rim protector, post player, or both.

Next year, we’ll have both.
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The front court will be better next year with more improvement from Carlton and Akok. Add in a good backup grad center 5 and we are on the way.
 

I believe we'd be in the hunt apparently means I said we'd win it. Cool stuff bro. And until Jalen went down and we went on a 1-7 skid, that was still true. But when you lose Alterique and Jalen for significant time each, you can't stay in the hunt...
 
Rico444 said:
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If Jalen and Alterique didn't get hurt we probably get to 20 wins...
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Absolutely! I agree with you completely. And that's my point. Alterique comes back, along with other talented new recruits and players who are growing into their roles like Carlton and Polley. It's hard for me to even fathom how this board now thinks the NIT is a bridge too far. If that's what you guys think, I'm clearly not going to change that opinion so I'll stop trying...
 
UConnDan97 said:
I believe we'd be in the hunt apparently means I said we'd win it. Cool stuff bro. And until Jalen went down and we went on a 1-7 skid, that was still true. But when you lose Alterique and Jalen for significant time each, you can't stay in the hunt...
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Jeezus, you're insane. We had a chance to win the conference before Jalen got hurt?!?? Lulz.
 
UConnDan97 said:
Absolutely! I agree with you completely. And that's my point. Alterique comes back, along with other talented new recruits and players who are growing into their roles like Carlton and Polley. It's hard for me to even fathom how this board now thinks the NIT is a bridge too far. If that's what you guys think, I'm clearly not going to change that opinion so I'll stop trying...
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Who is saying the NIT is unrealistic for next year? If Alterique stays healthy I think we have a great shot to get there, and maybe even an outside chance at the NCAAs. The problem is you can't pencil Gilbert in for a full season.

Gaffney, Bouknight and Akok are all very talented, but all will have some growing pains for sure (like most freshman). I expect them to make the team better, but even Jeremy Lamb barely played his freshman year until conference play started. It's going to take some time there, but I would be stunned if top to bottom the roster wasn't better next year. If Gilbert gets hurt and misses time again, we probably don't make a postseason run. Both of those last two statements can be true though.
 
HuskyAlum012 said:
On our current roster, we had 3 guys who were ranked in the top 100 (looking at ESPN) for their recruiting classes. All of those players (J Adams, A Gilbert, M Diarra) missed at least 7 games with injuries this year and one player barely played at all. We have 3 top 100 recruits coming in next year and hopefully more on the way for years to come. The cupboard was bare, but I believe Hurley can restock and bring us back. Tough loss today, but while depression has set in that we wont be able to redeem ourselves for 9 months, I am confident we will be much better next year.

Trust The Process. Trust In Hurley.
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Wilson was also top 100.
 
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Rico444 said:
Who is saying the NIT is unrealistic for next year? If Alterique stays healthy I think we have a great shot to get there, and maybe even an outside chance at the NCAAs.
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That's what we've been talking about the entire time. So what exactly are you arguing with me for??? Of course if players get injured then all bets are off. That's true of any team in any year...
 
UConnDan97 said:
That's what we've been talking about the entire time. So what exactly are you arguing with me for??? Of course if players get injured then all bets are off. That's true of any team in any year...
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Well, this was the quote I was originally arguing against...

UConnDan97 said:
Nah.

The proposed goal was a 50/50 at a tourney bid. Next year is year 2. With multiple upperclassmen having already had a full year in his system, along with Akok having a semester with him.

If he isn't good enough in year 2 to give us a coin flip chance at a tourney bid, he's not the right one. Period.
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Big difference from "good enough to make the NIT."
 
Rico444 said:
Well, this was the quote I was originally arguing against...



Big difference from "good enough to make the NIT."
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"Good enough to make the NIT" is a big difference from "we have a great chance to make the NIT"...
 
UConnDan97 said:
"Good enough to make the NIT" is a big difference from "we have a great chance to make the NIT"...
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What are you talking about? You flat out said if Hurley doesn't get us close to the NCAAs next year that he's not the right coach for our program, "period." Are you changing your mind on that?

I think if the team stays relatively healthy next year we should absolutely be in the NIT, maybe even NCAAs if things go well. I don't think we have a great chance of that happening with Gilbert's injury history and the fact that he's our leader and point guard.
 
This year's team had flaws. Physically we were undersized. Mentally, we played hard but not smart. Chemistry is huge- Jalen, CV and Alterique for all their individual talent did not mesh well. Too many turnovers and stupid shot selection. Cutting down on turnovers and hitting more free throws would have yielded a few more wins.

But moving on to next year, Polley is a stretch 4 but does not do enough of the other things to be a top flight 4. Think De Andre Daniels - DD could hit the 3- drive to the basket but he also could get 10 rebounds a game. Polley has to get stronger and want to rebound. Akok is a rim protector but will need to get stronger to help in rebounding. Carlton needs to get stronger but he needs a second person in the paint to help him rebound. And it isn't a 6'1" guard. He has taken a big leap and the next step is consistency.

Wilson has the physical ability and it is alarming that after sitting for a year, he had so little basketball knowledge. He would be more effective in a pressing style up and down game. He has lots of work to do and hopefully will apply himself to meet Hurley's standards.

Whaley and Diarra are not physically able to make it at this level(and I am talking Championship).

From a guard perspective, Gaffney and Bouknight are freshmen, It is hard for freshmen to take over unless they are really really special. But they will get opportunities. I am not sold on Brendan Adams - I trust Hurley but I did not see much improvement from him.

Alterique is the X factor. Outside of staying healthy, he has to learn how to run an offense as opposed to getting his shots. Drives down the lane are designed to disrupt a defense, not create degree of difficulty shots. I think Hurley can help him meld his game to what Hurley wants.

We need another big or 2 and a legit 3 in my estimation for next year. Precious a JUCO and a grad transfer would work. If CV leaves, then another guard.

My hope next year is a more up tempo team that presses, turns people over for easy baskets but the half court offense will be ugly to watch. Just cut down on turnovers and shoot free throws better and the win total will increase. I think NIT next year and then NCAA's from there out.
 
Rico444 said:
What are you talking about? You flat out said if Hurley doesn't get us close to the NCAAs next year that he's not the right coach for our program, "period." Are you changing your mind on that?

I think if the team stays relatively healthy next year we should absolutely be in the NIT, maybe even NCAAs if things go well. I don't think we have a great chance of that happening with Gilbert's injury history and the fact that he's our leader and point guard.
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Yes I said that. I was commenting on what you said. And we're both saying the same thing. And you continue to argue with nobody. This team should absolutely make the NIT next year. Period.
 
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JMick said:
It's way too early to be setting any sort of expectations. We don't even know who will be on the roster, nevermind how good some of them will be.
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There will be more roster attrition beyond graduating players. This is almost certain.
 
UConnDan97 said:
Yes I said that. I was commenting on what you said. And we're both saying the same thing. And you continue to argue with nobody. This team should absolutely make the NIT next year. Period.
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We are not saying the same thing at all. I'm not saying Hurley needs to make us a bubble team next year or he's not the right guy to lead the program, you're the only one saying that.
 
ucp990411 said:
Ever see these guys play?
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Just high school but what I’ve heard and seen and read, these guys are going to make an impact. Yer right I don’t have much to base it on except expectations , but I just have a good feeling about them. Fir some reason I think bouknight is gonna be nasty. I cud be wrong. Just a feel. I do kno that Polley and especially Sid did not impress me much this year. I don’t think I saw sid hit one jumper from January on. I’ll give sid a pass. Polley I’m harder on cuz he saw a ton of minutes this year
 
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We are so conditioned to no player development because of the prior regime. These guys are going to get better. The work coach hunter did with Josh this yr was incredible. You can expect guys like sid and Brendan Adams to also improve. Vital staying would be huge imo. I believe we could really see him blossom next yr with another yr under Hurley. Health is my only concern with rique. We should have a lot of hope for next yr because we have a staff that specializes in player development. Hurley and staff are up to the task. The guys we have returning and the talent we bring in will give us good times next season. I truly am confident in that. Trust The Process
 
AntG168 said:
We are so conditioned to no player development because of the prior regime. These guys are going to get better. The work coach hunter did with Josh this yr was incredible. You can expect guys like sid and Brendan Adams to also improve. Vital staying would be huge imo. I believe we could really see him blossom next yr with another yr under Hurley. Health is my only concern with rique. We should have a lot of hope for next yr because we have a staff that specializes in player development. Hurley and staff are up to the task. The guys we have returning and the talent we bring in will give us good times next season. I truly am confident in that. Trust The Process
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I agree with this100%
 
HuskyFich said:
Our front court is abysmal. Think about how bad we would have been without Josh having a huge jump the second half of the year.

You can’t win in college without a big time front court. Either a rim protector, post player, or both.

Next year, we’ll have both.
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This is a bad take. Akok and Carlton is a monster starting frontcourt, and will be one of the best in the AAC. The only problem is the depth behind them.

Also wanted to add that Gaffney will start next year. He’s a better ball handler than anyone not named Gilbert, and Gaffney just knows how to score at all 3 levels.
 
Monster front court? Come on Akok is 185 lbs, I think he may get pushed around quite a bit, ever see any of the incoming recruits play? Or just going by boneyard hype? The hype said Sid was a stud, guess that proved to be wrong.
 
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AntG168 said:
We are so conditioned to no player development because of the prior regime. These guys are going to get better. The work coach hunter did with Josh this yr was incredible. You can expect guys like sid and Brendan Adams to also improve. Vital staying would be huge imo. I believe we could really see him blossom next yr with another yr under Hurley. Health is my only concern with rique. We should have a lot of hope for next yr because we have a staff that specializes in player development. Hurley and staff are up to the task. The guys we have returning and the talent we bring in will give us good times next season. I truly am confident in that. Trust The Process
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Nice to see some sanity and common sense. The roster we had, including Diarra and Yawke, was easily NIT NCAA bubble capable without the injuries. Yawke and Diarra were our two toughest most physical front court players. They would have helped in league play where we got manhandled. I never want to see a 175 pound Sid at PF ever again. Hurley learned this year too. His teams will be bigger and more physical going forward.

Next year we need to be at least an NIT lock NCAA bubble team and I think we will be. Sid will be better. B. Adams will get better. Carlton will get better too, and anybody else who comes back. We do need some depth up front. Guys coming in will have an impact. Borges all but said Akok was already kicking everybody else’s butt in practices.

I also expect Hurley to stick with the press and running game all year next year. It was very effective at times, but we lacked the personnel to run it, especially once injuries hit.
 
RayIsTheGOAT said:
Not you, I don't think. Maybe you.
The one suggesting Hurley should be fired next season if we aren't a coin flip for the NCAA tournament.
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Well I certainly don’t think he should be fired if we don’t make the tournament. He probably would be coach of the year if we did. Painfully obvious how high the mountain is that we have to climb.
 
StepbackCity said:
This is a bad take. Akok and Carlton is a monster starting frontcourt, and will be one of the best in the AAC. The only problem is the depth behind them.

Also wanted to add that Gaffney will start next year. He’s a better ball handler than anyone not named Gilbert, and Gaffney just knows how to score at all 3 levels.
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That's literally what I said?
 
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