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Am I missing something? Tatum is obviously a fantastic player. But KD is still a better scorer especially in the Olympic stage and is a legendary player. KD had a near historic performance in the first half and team really only pulled away at the very end. Why is everyone so upset that Tatum, who played pretty poorly leading up to this, not get any run? This isn't park and rec where everyone gets their chance to play. It's the freakin' Olympics.
 
boog204 said:
Am I missing something? Tatum is obviously a fantastic player. But KD is still a better scorer especially in the Olympic stage and is a legendary player. KD had a near historic performance in the first half and team really only pulled away at the very end. Why is everyone so upset that Tatum, who played pretty poorly leading up to this, not get any run? This isn't park and rec where everyone gets their chance to play. It's the freakin' Olympics.
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I’m confused at the situation in general. I’m assuming the purpose for getting worked up about Tatum’s minutes is because he’s a star and a reigning champion that would have helped team USA win

But they won by almost 30! It was the biggest blowout of the weekend. Is the outrage because we wanted to win by 35 instead? Or are we worried about hurting people’s feelings while entering group play of the OLYMPICS?
 
boog204 said:
KD had a near historic performance in the first half and team really only pulled away at the very end.
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Not really. Up 5 after 1st quarter, 9 at the half, 19 after 3rd quarter and 26 at the end of the game. So that seems like they slowly pulled away, but 3rd quarter was the best.
 
boog204 said:
Am I missing something? Tatum is obviously a fantastic player. But KD is still a better scorer especially in the Olympic stage and is a legendary player. KD had a near historic performance in the first half and team really only pulled away at the very end. Why is everyone so upset that Tatum, who played pretty poorly leading up to this, not get any run? This isn't park and rec where everyone gets their chance to play. It's the freakin' Olympics.
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part of it here in the video below, if you lose Tatum along with pretty much the Jaylen Brown bridge being burnt up, who are your wings and hybrid 3/4s in 2028? Banchero will be in play at the 4 but you need more switchable 3/4s like the role KD/Bron currently occupy. Will someone like Brandon Miller be ready by then? who knows but you at least have more of a sure thing that produced in the 2021 in Tatum, you want to keep that relationship alive. nobody is asking for Tatum to play 20 minutes but I think finding 8-10 was reasonable somewhere along the line. I'm sure Kerr will adjust because that has probably been communicated him to from the top of USA Basketball.

 
aceboon said:
don't usually see Legler get worked up like this

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I guaranty you Legler doesn't even believe that -- it's just controversy to increase clicks or ratings. A coach's job isn't being respectful to a player -- it's about winning games and championships. Being "respectful" is only impactful if it affects winning this tournament. I don't care if you think Tatum is the best player in the world -- we're trying to put the best TEAM on the floor, not the best five players. UConn has won plenty of championships where we didn't have the best players, but did have the best team. The thought that this makes winning in '28 harder is beyond stupid. Who knows if Tatum will be playing basketball then, uninjured and at a high level, without others having become better. And who knows if we'll need him at home to win.

The coach's job is to win the gold this year. Nothing that occurred yesterday could cause a rational person to believe he was jeopardizing that.
 
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businesslawyer said:
I guaranty you Legler doesn't even believe that -- it's just controversy to increase clicks or ratings. A coach's job isn't being respectful to a player -- it's about winning games and championships. Being "respectful" is only impactful if it affects winning this tournament. I don't care if you think Tatum is the best player in the world -- we're trying to put the best TEAM on the floor, not the best five players. UConn has won plenty of championships where we didn't have the best players, but did have the best team. The thought that this makes winning in '28 harder is beyond stupid. Who knows if Tatum will be playing basketball then, uninjured and at a high level, without others having become better. And who knows if we'll need him at home to win.

The coach's job is to win the gold this year. Nothing that occurred yesterday could cause a rational person to believe he was jeopardizing that.
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nothing about the way Legler carries himself and the way that pod does business is about generating clicks and engagement bait, the All-NBA pod with Legler is just straight basketball talk, it's not some First Take or Skip Bayless type nonsense.
 
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aceboon said:
part of it here in the video below, if you lose Tatum along with pretty much the Jaylen Brown bridge being burnt up, who are your wings and hybrid 3/4s in 2028? Banchero will be in play at the 4 but you need more switchable 3/4s like the role KD/Bron currently occupy. Will someone like Brandon Miller be ready by then? who knows but you at least have more of a sure thing that produced in the 2021 in Tatum, you want to keep that relationship alive. nobody is asking for Tatum to play 20 minutes but I think finding 8-10 was reasonable somewhere along the line. I'm sure Kerr will adjust because that has probably been communicated him to from the top of USA Basketball.

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If Tatum won’t play in 2028 because he’s upset he didn’t get minutes in 2024 (on a team with Lebron, KD, and Curry doing their last Olympics), then he’s softer than Charmin

2028 is his and Ant Edwards’ team, and he definitely knows that. I don’t think he’ll refuse to play because he didn’t get a lot of PT 4 years prior
 
Tatum is aferall a whining Dookie... Why would you expect anything else?

On another note, the NBC coverage of a classic sporting event is horrible once again... The frequency of commercials per broadcast hour has to be in world record territory.
 
Dogdeacon said:
C’mon
A. KD greatest score in Olympic history got health and plays Tatum’s position
B. Given playoff wear and tear as a Celtics fan I’d rather Tatum get rest and can find bright side of motivating him to prove he’s better than Durant & others.
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What’s KD have to do with Tatum getting a handful of backup minutes?

Personally, I think Durant should be starting and Tatum should be playing over guys like Booker, Jrue, and Bam. But the main point is that he’s a versatile enough player to be able to fill many roles for this team from game to game (i.e., how his role changed nearly every game in the finals, even when his shooting was off).
 
UConn990411 said:
What’s KD have to do with Tatum getting a handful of backup minutes?

Personally, I think Durant should be starting and Tatum should be playing over guys like Booker, Jrue, and Bam. But the main point is that he’s a versatile enough player to be able to fill many roles for this team from game to game (i.e., how his role changed nearly every game in the finals, even when his shooting was off).
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He absolutely should not be playing over Jrue
 
UConn990411 said:
What’s KD have to do with Tatum getting a handful of backup minutes?

Personally, I think Durant should be starting and Tatum should be playing over guys like Booker, Jrue, and Bam. But the main point is that he’s a versatile enough player to be able to fill many roles for this team from game to game (i.e., how his role changed nearly every game in the finals, even when his shooting was off).
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If you saw the exhibitions Tatum was getting a handful of minutes off the bench, in 1st game of being healthy Durant used in that exact same role and shot the lights out.

Kerr says Tatum will play vs South Sudan due to better matchup, so probably less Embid or Bam.
 
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Dogdeacon said:
If you saw the exhibitions Tatum was getting a handful of minutes off the bench, in 1st game of being healthy Durant used in that exact same role and shot the lights out.

Kerr says Tatum will play vs South Sudan due to better matchup, so probably less Embid or Bam.
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If Bam has to sit for Tatum and Embiid then it’s not really about who’s playing the best.
 
Dogdeacon said:
If you saw the exhibitions Tatum was getting a handful of minutes off the bench, in 1st game of being healthy Durant used in that exact same role and shot the lights out.

Kerr says Tatum will play vs South Sudan due to better matchup, so probably less Embid or Bam.
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There in lies the problem - they shouldn’t be playing the same role.

Durant is much more of a floor spacer and was used properly in that role. Tatum should be an international 4 whose role is to attack relentlessly, find open teammates, switch all over the place, and help control the defensive glass.
 
I really love all the people on every social media platform claiming to have a clue what Tatum is thinking.

Players wanna play--duh. I doubt he's oblivious to the fact that his shooting has been off and KD is red hot in what is probably his last Olympic run. If he was 6'3 he'd be playing over Jrue and White... but he's not. There's a 6'12 scoring machine in front of him.

There's really nothing to see here IMO until Tatum shows his cards.
 
Giddey has been good so far through 2, we've seen ordinary guys transform in FIBA but I'm interested in seeing how he does with the Bulls, still very young

 
aceboon said:
Giddey has been good so far through 2, we've seen ordinary guys transform in FIBA but I'm interested in seeing how he does with the Bulls, still very young

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He hit a step back contested 3 that had me wondering who was this Giddey??

To think Ben Simmons should be on this Australia team too.
 
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win or lose the French takeover of the basketball world has been greatly exaggerated. struggling with Japan and currently trailing in the 4th, they were terrible in the exhibitions leading up to the Olympics, and that is after they were terrible in last year's World Cup. They're going to need to develop some guards because Killian Hayes and Frank Nik have been complete busts. Nolan Traore has the hype but so did the 2 lottery pick guards that preceded him.
 
this France vs Japan game is crazy, Japan up 84-80 and France hits a 3 and gets fouled to tie it with 10 secs left and forces OT
 
aceboon said:
Giddey has been good so far through 2, we've seen ordinary guys transform in FIBA but I'm interested in seeing how he does with the Bulls, still very young

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Never understood the amount of bashing the Bulls got over only getting Giddey for Caruso. Caruso is a really good defender and will absolutely help OKC but Giddey is the more talented player and he's still just a kid. Bulls management stinks but I didn't see this as a highway robbery. Giddey is still just a kid and the change of scenery should do him well, he can play.
 
France wins in OT, Japan had nothing left and Wemby took over. the call to force OT was homecooking, very soft foul on the 3pt attempt. I know nothing about Japan's national team but surprised Keisei Tominaga that played for Nebraska can't get any minutes for them, especially since there guards were completely gassed down the stretch and into OT.
 
aceboon said:
France wins in OT, Japan had nothing left and Wemby took over. the call to force OT was homecooking, very soft foul on the 3pt attempt. I know nothing about Japan's national team but surprised Keisei Tominaga that played for Nebraska can't get any minutes for them, especially since there guards were completely gassed down the stretch and into OT.
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Rui got ejected on soft flagrant calls
 
3x3 bb… Jimmer Fredette playing and getting star treatment for NPOY jn college. And getting torched in a loss. Couldn’t they find any younger guys?
 
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It is a more entertaining tournament if France advances, but both those teams are mediocre at best, Japan's tiny guards might be better than that abysmal French backcourt. They'd be way better off if Tony Parker walks thru that door onto the court.
 
boog204 said:
Am I missing something? Tatum is obviously a fantastic player. But KD is still a better scorer especially in the Olympic stage and is a legendary player. KD had a near historic performance in the first half and team really only pulled away at the very end. Why is everyone so upset that Tatum, who played pretty poorly leading up to this, not get any run? This isn't park and rec where everyone gets their chance to play. It's the freakin' Olympics.
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It’s the freakin’ Olympics!!!!!! Ok Still no reason for JT not to touch the floor. Think Kerr would sit Curry an entire Olympic game? It’s the freakin’ Olympics
 
A lot worse hijacking of threads has happened here... its the Olympics... so here goes... US women's rugby gets the bronze on the final play vs the big bad Aussies

 
Man, I almost stayed up to watch the Japan v France game (started after midnight Japan time)... would have been a crushing way to go to bed.
 
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