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Ollie Officially Fired

#1 PA Husky Fan said:
Every time that I hear this, I question whether there is an open invitation to the Big East. You have to be asked and our profile is very different Why would the BE want us? We don't fit their model and we would be coming in as a weak cousin. Would love to see it but don't think it will happen.
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Excalibur said:
The conference is an issue but was not the problem.
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I'm so sick of the excuse about the conference. If the conference stinks so bad then win all the friggin' games in the conference. Cincinnati is projected as a 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament with recruits that mostly weren't very highly ranked. Houston is a lock for the NCAA Tournament with talent that isn't great. Would Ollie have won a lot with Houston's players?

I admit being in the AAC has drawbacks compared to when they were in the BE but you can win in this conference and be much better than UConn has been the last 4 years. The program just hasn't been run well. I don't know why people keep making excuses for Ollie when the problem is as clear as a bright sunny day.
 
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I wanted Ollie gone, but with no payout is pretty cold blooded and if so, then there may be some teeth to the NCAA probe, which isn’t good for anyone.

 
BugsyCT said:
Since it keeps getting brought up, what happens to the football program if basketball goes back to the Big East 2.0? Stay in the AAC as football only? MAC? Independent? Back to FCS? Fold up the tent? Guess they can use that $100 million stadium on Silver Lane for high school games. Whatever - the hoop-only fans have the luxury of not caring.
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No way the AAC lets a middling at best football program stay in the conference if UConn moves their Olympic sports. Remember, they would lose UConn women too.
 
Kathy said:
If they can do this in this manner to KO, if I was a prospective coach I would wonder what tactics they would use to fire me. If he is being fired for losing, which we all know to be the case just say it and do it, you negociated the contract and now want to wiggle out. I actually would have more respect for Benedict if they didn't pull this crap. When they fired Perno at least they were honest and honorable doing it.
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Might want to find out the details of "just cause" before assuming ollie has been wronged in some way. The AD, and university President for that matter, are really putting themselves on the line with the statement they released.
 
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Huskybass said:
Aren't you the same fool that argued that KO would be back next season?

That's a decision for the Athletic Director. Personally, I would be happy with Danny Hurley.
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Fool? That's rich. Might want to check out Hurley's NCAA win total before you knock Ed Cooley's.

You nitwit.
 
Kathy said:
Yeah it is. If you did something wrong it shouldn't matter if winning or losing. Just how everyone here was upset about UNC. Who you are, how the team is doing shouldn't matter. It is wrong to have 2 sets of standards. If Benedict would have used this to fire him when he was winning as well as losing I'd have no problem. To have a sense of right or wrong change to suit your purpose is immoral and unethical. Just my values.
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I don’t think it has to be a matter of ethics or morality. It’s business. Make no mistake about it - Kevin Ollie got fired for performance. The for cause language is legalease of sorts. Most of the world doesn’t get a buyout or severance of this magnitude. That’s not Ollie’s fault. But Its clear that Kevin Ollie thinks he’s owed the full amount and that UConn doesn’t. How much UConn can/will pay him is the issue. And that’s where the details matter. If a coach (or anyone else) doesn’t like it, don’t sign a contract that has a “for clause” component. And don’t create any reason for a “for clause” termination. Contracts work both ways.
 
WestHartHusk said:
You understand that he had obligations to UConn too, and, as of right now, he left us a program that is under NCAA investigation, can't sniff the NIT bubble and has a blah recruiting class, right?
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I hear you. I just think the situation sucks all around and there will be some hard feelings from KO. It's hard to see one of your own leave like that. I'm not saying it was necessarily wrong for Uconn to pull the trigger either.

These are situations that you don't wish upon anyone. It's a difficult move for both UConn and KO. Whether it's the wrong or right move only time will tell.

I hope that a few years from now when the dust settles UConn can bring him back and honor him for the Championship and his playing years.
 
Slasher said:
No way the AAC lets a middling at best football program stay in the conference if UConn moves their Olympic sports. Remember, they would lose UConn women too.
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Very true. So what happens to them?
 
Excalibur said:
That you have no credibility in this matter.
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Still not sure how that has anything to do with asking who we're getting that is better than Ed Cooley. What did I miss?
 
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Milo65 said:
I wanted Ollie gone, but with no payout is pretty cold blooded and if so, then there may be some teeth to the NCAA probe, which isn’t good for anyone.

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That mountain dew is at a really good temperature this morning
 
gtcam said:
Please tell us - what was the atmosphere like in that negotiating room and how much input did you have in the decision?
People who make these know it all statements as if they know something intimate about specific situations leave me speechless
Please tell me how would you handle the situation if you were KO (forgive me KO)
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Sounds to me like Bluedogs merely understands a higher stakes world than you. This happens every day in the business world. Your lack of exposure or awareness to it shouldn’t leave you speechless. View this as a learning opportunity.
 
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mauconnfan said:
Wow if I'm another coach how happy would I be if they are trying to find a way for "just cause" on a guy who player here and won a national championship? Red flag
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No, it's not! "Just cause" stipulations are written into contracts for a reason! Ollie was an embarrassment of a head basketball coach on the court, and although a great guy, also was pretty bad off of it as well.
 
Ollie used leverage when things where going good and got a great contract.
UConn is using a clause in his contract that gives them an out because he seemingly acted inappropriately possible both in his personal life and professional life.

Ollie was right to use his leverage and UConn is right to enforce the just cause clause if it is justified
 
Slasher said:
No way the AAC lets a middling at best football program stay in the conference if UConn moves their Olympic sports. Remember, they would lose UConn women too.
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What's Navy? A middling at best football program, but with a good market. So is UConn.

If we can keep football and baseball in the AAC, Big East for basketball would be great. Don't think it makes sense if football doesn't stay in the AAC.
 
gtcam said:
GREAT post - couldn't agree with you more Kathy
I was/am now not caring if KO stays or KO goes but if this was done to avoid some type of payment then it is totally wrong if they cannot pin something specific on KO and make it stick without even a shred of doubt.
If the AD David Benedict is gambling that by doing this early and getting the best possible person with the knowledge that they then can negotiate with KO (while the replacement knows there is little in form of damage control) - that is wrong - not saying that it is not done in business as a tactic - but to do it to a loyal colleague - is just plain wrong - IF that is the case
I have no idea right now but I am close to some folks most likely to know specifics involved and it will be interesting to hear snippets as time goes on.
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They wouldn't have fired him for cause if there wasn't a basis. This isn't complicated.
 
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