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Ollie fighting to keep his job..Link from ESPN

whaler11 said:
Your posting history on Ollie affords you zero credibility - so do yourself a favor and sit this one out or someone will go dig it up.
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He turned around relatively quick compared to the stalwarts posting here now
 
JMick said:
SJ broke the news of his firing first. Pay the guy some respect
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Yeah the guy who posts 300 times about the evils of microwaves but has started a thread on the best brands of frozen pizza.

That’s some logical stuff.
 
If the university is going to fire someone for performance, just say it and pay him and move along.

If it's just cause because the NCAA shows up and does an investigation, a whole crap load of coaches are in trouble. Coach K, Roy Williams, Calipari, Avery Johnson, Miller, etc.
 
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Javjudah said:
What facts? There hasn't been any charges or violations issued against UCONN or KO from the NCAA.
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That you know about...there could very well be pending charges that the AD knows about but the public doesn’t. How about we sit back and wait before smearing the school.
 
Go KO! Keep fighting! Screw the AD and Herbst! #FireADBenedict
 
whaler11 said:
Yeah the guy who posts 300 times about the evils of microwaves but has started a thread on the best brands of frozen pizza.

That’s some logical stuff.
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Deflecting. Not usually like you.
 
noeynox said:
What was the leak? I don't recall it.
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Two seconds after they beat SMU, Jacobs broke the news of the NCAA investigation.

A few days later he actually printed that the leak didn’t come from the AD. LOL.
 
whaler11 said:
Your posting history on Ollie affords you zero credibility - so do yourself a favor and sit this one out or someone will go dig it up.
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I supported KO, I thought he was the guy. I was wrong. THE END. When you show that your stance is based on the evidence presented you become more credible. When you hold firm on your stance when it’s clear your wrong you just become an idiot
 
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JMick said:
"No one is rooting for Ollie over UConn guys stop putting words in our mouths!!"
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Rooting for DB and SuzieLax to go IS ROOTING FOR UCONN
 
AntG168 said:
I supported KO, I thought he was the guy. I was wrong. THE END. When you show that your stance is based on the evidence presented you become more credible. When you hold firm on your stance when it’s clear your wrong you just become an idiot
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Credit I guess you are just a little slow to the draw.
 
Javjudah said:
The University has fired the first shot, they didn't care about him as they are smearing his name. Do you think Ollie cares if he's dead to you or me? The man has every right to fight and defend himself.
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Don't you have classes to study for Jay?

You Ollie folks are irrational and clueless. There is NO WAY the AD would jump to firing him for cause without first approaching him to negotiate. NO WAY. The AD is not an idiot. Herbst is not an idiot and UConn's lawyers are not idiots. It is WAY more likely that Ollie refused to negotiate or that they couldn't agree on a number. No one knows what the university offered. Or do you? If you do, stop being a coward and tell us what they offered and who you are to know this. Otherwise, you and Kathy and the rest of you nut jobs need to stop accusing the university of not trying to negotiate.
 
Paesano said:
Don't you have classes to study for Jay?

You Ollie folks are irrational and clueless. There is NO WAY the AD would jump to firing him for cause without first approaching him to negotiate. NO WAY. The AD is not an idiot. Herbst is not an idiot and UConn's lawyers are not idiots. It is WAY more likely that Ollie refused to negotiate or that they couldn't agree on a number. No one knows what the university offered. Or do you? If you do, stop being a coward and tell us what they offered and who you are to know this. Otherwise, you and Kathy and the rest of you nut jobs need to stop accusing the university of not trying to negotiate.
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You give all of those people way too much credit.

THOSE ARE THE SAME IDIOTS WHO SIGNED THE CONTRACT.
 
whaler11 said:
Credit I guess you are just a little slow to the draw.
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When you genuinely like someone and you want something to work it can cloud your judgement. I genuinely like KO and I wanted him to succeed and I thought he could, so yes it took a little more evidence than usual for me to pull the plug on my KO hope
 
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Paesano said:
Don't you have classes to study for Jay?

You Ollie folks are irrational and clueless. There is NO WAY the AD would jump to firing him for cause without first approaching him to negotiate. NO WAY. The AD is not an idiot. Herbst is not an idiot and UConn's lawyers are not idiots. It is WAY more likely that Ollie refused to negotiate or that they couldn't agree on a number. No one knows what the university offered. Or do you? If you do, stop being a coward and tell us what they offered and who you are to know this. Otherwise, you and Kathy and the rest of you nut jobs need to stop accusing the university of not trying to negotiate.
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Well the AD agreed to the buyout...so I don't know that he isn't an idiot. As this gets uglier, the national media is going to be brutal on UConn for this. It's Saturday and the conference tournaments are on. Someway, somehow, this should have been handled better.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Is there a binding arbitration clause in his contract? If so, UConn needs to fire the lawyers working for the the AD. If there isn’t, he can go pound sand.
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Arbitration clauses are almost always inserted by employers, not employees.

But I guess here he has some special kind of right to a hearing
 
AntG168 said:
When you genuinely like someone and you want something to work it can cloud your judgement. I genuinely like KO and I wanted him to succeed and I thought he could, so yes it took a little more evidence than usual for me to pull the plug on my KO hope
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Nothing wrong with this. I kept hoping it worked, but it was trending terribly bad for us/him.
 
JMick said:
So getting fired for breaking rules is now a smear campaign?
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Paesano said:
Don't you have classes to study for Jay?

You Ollie folks are irrational and clueless. There is NO WAY the AD would jump to firing him for cause without first approaching him to negotiate. NO WAY. The AD is not an idiot. Herbst is not an idiot and UConn's lawyers are not idiots. It is WAY more likely that Ollie refused to negotiate or that they couldn't agree on a number. No one knows what the university offered. Or do you? If you do, stop being a coward and tell us what they offered and who you are to know this. Otherwise, you and Kathy and the rest of you nut jobs need to stop accusing the university of not trying to negotiate.
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The University asked him to resign... They can't afford to pay him a $10 million buyout and another coach $2.5-$3 million annually.
 
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Javjudah said:
At this point the University has showed it's true colors. If UCONN wants to fire KO as the head coach because of the performance of his team over past few years they have every right to do so. To smear his name and fire him for just cause for allegations that have not been proven is plain wrong. They're doing this to avoid paying him the $10 million he's owed if he's fired.
You're right, Ollie will show his true colors and his true color is he's a fighter. The fact that the University is putting him through this and smearing his name will only make this very very bad for the University moving forward. No love lost now. Fire him, pay him his money and both parties move on.
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It’s all about the contract and just cause. If there was a violation and just cause defined broadly in the K, the University wins. I don’t think for a moment the university wants to stiff him and offer zero. At the end of the day, it’s not a charity it’s a state entity in the state has a duty to defend their contracts not to give away money they are not legally obligated to give away. This will settle and I would be shocked if offers were not already made and rejected. Eventually it will settle before binding arbitration
 
nomar said:
Arbitration clauses are almost always inserted by employers, not employees.

But I guess here he has some special kind of right to a hearing
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Yup. If half of what we have heard is true, KO breached his contract and gets $0. Any sane council will tell him to take $3m and walk into the night. Arbitration on his contract won't work out well for him.
 
This is not rocket science.

It’s not as if UConn’s surprised by what Ollie is doing or Ollie is surprised at what the university is doing.

Ollie has a contract that very broadly says that he can be fired for cause for breaking any rule. He’s not walking away with $10,600,000. And the university is not going to get off paying him $0.

They’ll negotiate a settlement. There won’t be a Perry Mason moment in court on this one.

Neither side will want this to go on a minute longer than it has to.
 
With out a doubt the AD probably tried to negotiate a buyout, but remember, Ollie belongs to a union. Unions negoatiate and play hardball when it comes to fullfilling labor contracts. They may have told Ollie in no uncertain terms it is their responsibility to go for the full Monty.
 
Just cause is having Sean Miller on tape discussing payments to DeAndre Ayton.
Just cause is Roy Williams' players taking fake classes at UNC.
Just cause is having the balance sheet of ASM Sports agency showing Dennis Smith Jr, Isaiah Whitehead and a whole boatload of players getting payments. (LOL @ the dude that got less than $100)
Just cause is Lemont Evants, Chuck Person, Book Richardson and Tony Bland being charged.

So which head coach has been fired here? Which AD has been fired here? None.

Just negotiate the settlement and be done. There's no reason to drag KO's name in the mud before he's actually charged with anything. He's still a part of the UConn family.
 
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