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hthusky74 said:
I hope this is a lame attempt at humor. If not, how did you get medicinal marijuana already?
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Here you go; I think you need one of these.


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superjohn said:
Good lord, it's not a big deal at all that's why he's getting a $75 fine. Why is driving at night so reckless? You're really saying this is the same as a DWI and that Olander is putting lives at risk? Get over yourself, this is such a ridiculous post.
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You aren't allowed to drive without a license. I believe that's common knowledge in this country. You have to pass a test to prove you can do it for a reason. If you don't pass the test, you aren't allowed to drive. I don't care what the fine is - driving without one is clearly reckless. Frankly, I think that fine should be a lot higher, but that's immaterial.

Driving at night without a license is more reckless because it is more difficult for a beginner. It's dark outside - so you can see less. In many states, you aren't allowed to drive with a learner's permit except during daylight hours. Connecticut I think it's ok.

I don't want people driving out on the roads without licenses. Sorry if you think that's ridiculous. I think it's ridiculous that you don't think it matters. I mean, he was pulled over for "jerky steering maneuvers". If he passed the sobriety test, the most obvious explanation for his poor driving is that he doesn't know how to drive. One of those jerky maneuvers could have easily taken out some college pedestrians on a Saturday night if he lost control of the car. So, yes, I consider this similar to a DWI - just instead of alcohol, his impairment is that he doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
 
upstater said:
I've never done one, but how would you know if you passed one anyway?
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I did a test once. When "I'm Dove from the Boneyard" didn't do I really impressed with a recitation of the alphabet backwards. I was pulled over simply because my passenger passed me a beer to finish...and I stoopidly did while in the cop's headlight beams. :oops:
 
Let's cut to the chase here. The bottom line is Olander has maturity and judgement problems as evidenced by his recent escapades. It is time that he grows up. I don't think Ollie will give him his captainship back. Whether he misses any games remains to be seen. I'm really disappointed in him over this incident, especially coming after the Florida escapade. I would hope that KO teaches him a little baseball: Three strikes and you're out!
 
Chief00 said:
The team would be better off if the Tyler ship sailed away.
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We would be better off if we lost a post player and didn't have anyone to take his scholarship? Good logic.
 
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hthusky74 said:
It is a blatant violation of the law and potential dangerous as evidenced in this case by his weaving. It is a big deal.
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Violation of the law - yes. But if it was such a big effiing deal then why does it only carry a $75 fine. I'm sure you've made mistakes in your life and maybe even violated some laws too. Stop making this out like it's bigger than it is.
 
I looked it up and Conn. now requires a learner's permit. But the age restriction of the accompanying driver is the same as it used to be, 20 years old. So, 20 years ago what Tyler did would not have been illegal. You didn't need a learner's permit. But it is illegal now.
 
One man's trash is another man's treasure I guess.
 
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upstater said:
He was definitely weaving I guess.
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I hope at least it was a nice basket. He is a D1 player... maybe he was getting credits for it?

First these jackasses are absolutely sure Olander is an alcoholic and should be thrown off the team... now they're 100% sure he was weaving all over the road. I never knew the UConn police had a ride along program for self-righteous blowhards.
 
UConn Dan said:
Violation of the law - yes. But if it was such a big effiing deal then why does it only carry a $75 fine. I'm sure you've made mistakes in your life and maybe even violated some laws too. Stop making this out like it's bigger than it is.
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I am pretty sure he (or his parents) is out a lot more than $75.00. I'm pretty sure the lawyer got him for all he could.
 
upstater said:
I looked it up and Conn. now requires a learner's permit. But the age restriction of the accompanying driver is the same as it used to be, 20 years old. So, 20 years ago what Tyler did would not have been illegal. You didn't need a learner's permit. But it is illegal now.
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His problem was that he is a US citizen. If he was an illegal alien, our governor would have picked him up himself and driven him to the DMV to get his license and reprimanded the state cop for harassing him.
 
hthusky74 said:
I would hope that KO teaches him a little baseball: Three strikes and you're out!
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Tyler's play in 2012-13....strike looking.
The freakin' rap video...foul tip to the backstop.
Driving in a herky jerky fashion at night and w/o a license...swung on and missed! The-e-e-e-e-e-Huskies win!!! They win!!!!
 
IMind said:
I hope at least it was a nice basket. He is a D1 player... maybe he was getting credits for it?

First these jackasses are absolutely sure Olander is an alcoholic and should be thrown off the team... now they're 100% sure he was weaving all over the road. I never knew the UConn police had a ride along program for self-righteous blowhards.
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Well, first off, you self-righteously completely missed the sarcasm in upstater's response about the weaving, then you include everyone who does not think it is a trivial matter to drive without a license as being the same as someone who wants to kick him off the team (one poster).

Young inexperienced drivers are being killed by poor judgment and/or substance use at an alarming rate in CT this year. One was killed 4 doors down from where I live. The shrine around her crashsite is still there, weeks later. I see it 4-5 times a day and think of her being dead for no good reason nearly every time I see it.

Tyler driving without a license, without training, and without practice makes him a high risk driver who very well might not handle a difficult situation safely...especially at night. That he was only fined $75 is the problem with this situation. It makes a mockery of the law requiring a license and I think that having a license to drive is important. It is one imperfect way of trying to take steps to reduce the number of people being hurt and killed by irresponsible drivers. CT has been one of the leaders nationally in creating much stricter regulations governing young drivers and I believe that deaths had been down after these laws were put in place. .....signed, Bloviating Blowhard.
 
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Actually I did get EXACTLY what upstater was saying... which is why I responded the way I did about basket weaving. My point is no one knows what went on that night... but we have a lot of people on here that certainly think they do... even when they've been proven wrong... repeatedly. I get a little sick at people that just can't wait to jump all over kids on here...

I never once said what Tyler did was okay... I'm sorry that happened to your neighbor but it really has nothing to do with what I posted.
 
At the end of all this, he drove without a license and paid a $75 fine.

For all the hue and cry.....$75.

He's been suspended from team activities for about a month and is still suspended. If Ollie wants to reinstate him tomorrow, I'd be fine with that. If he doesn't, I'm fine with that.

When this was a DUI....I would have been fine with dismissing him.

But since it ain't, and he wasn't drunk, why the hell was he arrested for it?
 
upstater said:
I looked it up and Conn. now requires a learner's permit. But the age restriction of the accompanying driver is the same as it used to be, 20 years old. So, 20 years ago what Tyler did would not have been illegal. You didn't need a learner's permit. But it is illegal now.
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Actually the learners permit is a new requirement as of January 1st, 2013. "December 5, 2012""The Department of Motor Vehicles announced today that new adult drivers 18 and older will be required as of January 1 to hold a three-month learner's permit before taking a road test for a driver's license. The new requirement changes 106 years of history in which an adult had no required training period to complete prior to obtaining a driver's license." If this happened last December he would have had nothing to even give him a $75 fine. I will be honest when I first heard about his arrest I was with the many that felt he needed a severe punishment. The more I hear about this the less I think that is the case.
 
Hume said:
Actually the learners permit is a new requirement as of January 1st, 2013. "December 5, 2012""The Department of Motor Vehicles announced today that new adult drivers 18 and older will be required as of January 1 to hold athree-month learner's permit before taking a road test for a driver's license. The new requirement changes 106 years of history in which an adult had no required training period to complete prior to obtaining a driver's license." If this happened last December he would have had nothing to even give him a $75 fine. I will be honest when I first heard about his arrest I was with the many that felt he needed a severe punishment. The more I hear about this the less I think that is the case.
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Aha, I knew this was the law when I began driving. Thanks
 
IMind said:
Actually I did get EXACTLY what upstater was saying... which is why I responded the way I did about basket weaving. My point is no one knows what went on that night... but we have a lot of people on here that certain think they do... even when they've been proven wrong... repeatedly.

I never once said what Tyler did was okay... nor did I trivialized it. I'm sorry that happened to your neighbor but it really has nothing to do with what I posted.
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My assumption about his driving skills is based on what was reported:

Olander was pulled over driving a friend's car just after 11 p.m. on Sept. 7 after a motorist reported he was making "several jerky steering maneuvers" near the UConn campus in Storrs, said prosecutor Cynthia Baer.

If you're driving poorly enough for someone to call the cops on you, you're doing it wrong. Which isn't surprising if you don't know how.

I will give the caveat is that if his friend was going to drive drunk and there were no other good options available, then I don't have a problem with him taking the keys - it may have been the least bad of a bunch of bad options. There would be some lessons about not putting himself in those situations, but that's tangential.

Now even if it was exactly what it seems like - college kids on a Saturday night joyride without thinking (or caring about laws and things) - I don't think TO should be thrown off the team by any means. In fact, I don't even have a recommendation without knowing more details. I guess my range would probably go from nothing if he took the keys away from a drunk friend to, say, suspended through the MSG trip if he was joyriding with a .07 (it would sting a little to lose his last chance to play there). But we probably will never know all the details, so I won't balk at anything KO decides to do.
 
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Was he driving without his license on him or driving while not licensed at all? Driving without a license on you, driving unlicensed, driving with an expired license and driving with a non reinstated license after suspension are all $75 fines according to the CT site I googled.
 
Robertelamin said:
Was he driving without his license on him or driving while not licensed at all? Driving without a license on you, driving unlicensed, driving with an expired license and driving with a non reinstated license after suspension are all $75 fines according to the CT site I googled.
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I found this stuff out the hard way when I was pulled over for "training" of a rookie cop, and didn't have my license to show. When I showed up at court, driving without my license was suddenly turned into driving unlicensed. I fought it and didn't pay a fine, but still, it was the same infraction.
 
Robertelamin said:
Was he driving without his license on him or driving while not licensed at all? Driving without a license on you, driving unlicensed, driving with an expired license and driving with a non reinstated license after suspension are all $75 fines according to the CT site I googled.
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He's never had a license.
 
upstater said:
Aha, I knew this was the law when I began driving. Thanks
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That law is not relevant to TO's situation, though. All the law says is that you now need a three-month learner's permit before you can take a road test for your license, whereas before you could go straight to the road test.

It's still just as illegal to drive without a license as it was last year.
 
IMind said:
Actually I did get EXACTLY what upstater was saying... which is why I responded the way I did about basket weaving. My point is no one knows what went on that night... but we have a lot of people on here that certainly think they do... even when they've been proven wrong... repeatedly. I get a little sick at people that just can't wait to jump all over kids on here...

I never once said what Tyler did was okay... I'm sorry that happened to your neighbor but it really has nothing to do with what I posted.
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I certainly agree with the sentiment about the people who want to hammer the players. You seemed to lump everyone together and the issue was about his driving when never having been licensed. That did occur...it is not a question. That is a real safety issue and he is a dumbsh*t in my book for having done that. I'm glad he was not legally drunk, but that was not the issue being discussed...it was about his driving without being licensed to drive. To me, that is a big deal and it is not bashing to point that out.
 
Gurleyman said:
That law is not relevant to TO's situation, though. All the law says is that you now need a three-month learner's permit before you can take a road test for your license, whereas before you could go straight to the road test.

It's still just as illegal to drive without a license as it was last year.
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I'd like to see that shown, because as I wrote earlier, I know that the law used to be you could go on the road to train without a permit as long as you drove with a 20 year old or else someone who had a license for 4 years. Back then (1980s), you hit the road when you were 15, and you could take the test after your 16th birthday.
 
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