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If some of the waivers are approved, could make for some exciting games this year. South Carolina vs Tennessee could have some serious competitive drama.
 
nwhoopfan said:
That's the second reference I've seen to Slocum. I wonder what they are trying to base the waiver on?
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Home sickness would make since, sure is more understandable then the Cooper situation.
 
Homesickness? Huh. Corvallis isn't all that close to Meridian, ID (just outside Boise). Certainly closer than Maryland but still, a bit tough to accept that.


7 1/2 hour drive according to google. Fairly quick flight time though.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Yeah, but it was still weak. He was in serious trouble at Oregon and just walked away from it like it didn't even happen. Nice to know that Ole Miss was willing to disregard his issues if they thought he could help them win football games.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiHlt2y9v_WAhUhl1QKHW-0CccQFggmMAA&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Masoli&usg=AOvVaw3shE1EA33gaDfG3QRlYsdQ
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We've recently been made aware of what kind of football program they're running down in Oxford, Mississippi. This doesn't surprise me.
 
By electing to a "voluntary transfer" Cooper avoided any discipline. That sort of thing happens all the time in the workplace. So in effect she is considered to be a transfer who had just finished sitting out a year due to injury. Her alleged violations of school rules don't figure into it because there was never a finding that she violated any rule.

Furthermore, all we have to judge her on are message board posts and vague comments from her coach. I for one won't judge anyone based on that. I think she has an excellent case for playing this year.
 
UConnCat said:
Why not? Waivers for everyone.
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Been keeping an eye on the Shepard saga over at ND. They see a herd of unicorns prancing under a green and gold rainbow at the prospect of a waiver for her. The folks left behind at Nebraska find that amusing but that's another story.
 
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UConnCat said:
Why not? Waivers for everyone.
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Wafers for everyone.

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Alydar said:
By electing to a "voluntary transfer" Cooper avoided any discipline. That sort of thing happens all the time in the workplace. So in effect she is considered to be a transfer who had just finished sitting out a year due to injury. Her alleged violations of school rules don't figure into it because there was never a finding that she violated any rule.

Furthermore, all we have to judge her on are message board posts and vague comments from her coach. I for one won't judge anyone based on that. I think she has an excellent case for playing this year.
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You explained this better than I ever could've.
 
If Cooper gets a waiver it will be a terrible precedent. Normal transfer, have to sit out a year, but fight teammates, transfer and play right away. This being the NCAA, I think she gets the waiver.
 
The NCAA is in the business of setting "terrible precedents".... (see the recent UNC decision)

With the Tarheels, they basically came to the conclusion that it's not cheating or preferential treatment if you allow non-athletes to participate in it.
 
triaddukefan said:
I hope Cooper gets a waiver to play this season...... just to see the post game handshake line when they play Tennessee :D





I had no idea that colleges had homecoming kings and queens :confused:
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Really?? Is that not the case at Duke?
 
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Alydar said:
By electing to a "voluntary transfer" Cooper avoided any discipline. That sort of thing happens all the time in the workplace. So in effect she is considered to be a transfer who had just finished sitting out a year due to injury. Her alleged violations of school rules don't figure into it because there was never a finding that she violated any rule.

Furthermore, all we have to judge her on are message board posts and vague comments from her coach. I for one won't judge anyone based on that. I think she has an excellent case for playing this year.
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I don't understand what you're saying here. The transfer rules require that the student athlete spend a year in academic residence at the new school before being eligible to play. The rule would not appear to be satisfied by simply not playing for a year for whatever reason at the previous school. I've heard of student athletes not playing for 2 years (injury + transfer). Is there a precedent for the waiver you're suggesting?

Also, although we as fans know only what's been posted on message boards and included in a Knoxville blog written by a radio host, that will not be the extent of the NCAA's knowledge on the matter. The NCAA will submit questions to the student athlete and both universities.
 
MilfordHusky said:
My granddaughter is very self-conscious. I was instructed to say nothing during her campus visit. She probably would be ok about going to the game with me--provided that I didn't cheer or bring attention to her.
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I think you're right. When I went to college it was to get away from my family, it's just what teenagers do.
 
KnightBridgeAZ said:
One could only hope. Hideous for quite a while - and to think they were decent back when Jim Davis was there. Its been a while.
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I even remember when Annie Tribble was there. I'm sorry to hear the young lady got hurt.
 
UConnCat said:
Why not? Waivers for everyone.
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Actually, I think they should do away with the rule that transfers sit for a year. When coaches change jobs, they don't have to sit. I know it's to discourage transfers, but I don't like penalizing the athletes.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Homesickness? Huh. Corvallis isn't all that close to Meridian, ID (just outside Boise). Certainly closer than Maryland but still, a bit tough to accept that.


7 1/2 hour drive according to google. Fairly quick flight time though.
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Probably the only direct flight from Corvallis to Meridian is on a crop duster.
 
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UConnCat said:
I don't understand what you're saying here. The transfer rules require that the student athlete spend a year in academic residence at the new school before being eligible to play. The rule would not appear to be satisfied by simply not playing for a year for whatever reason at the previous school. I've heard of student athletes not playing for 2 years (injury + transfer). Is there a precedent for the waiver you're suggesting?

Also, although we as fans know only what's been posted on message boards and included in a Knoxville blog written by a radio host, that will not be the extent of the NCAA's knowledge on the matter. The NCAA will submit questions to the student athlete and both universities.
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Despite the rule you quote we all know that the rule is waived for various reasons. Notre Dame is in the process of trying to get a waiver for their transfer. There have been several waivers in the last couple of years.

My point was that Cooper wasn't expelled for cause. She transferred voluntarily and Tennessee gave her a full release. For what I have read she transferred in good standing. I was involved in employee misconduct situations in my job and more often than not the accused was offered an opportunity to resign prior to any disciplinary hearing and finding. It saves the employers from a process that they would like to avoid and it allows the employee to maintain a clean record. If we are to believe the stories, Cooper would have an opportunity to face the team mates with whom she had the fight along with her other team mates and the coaches. Those situations can be stressful for everyone as there are always two sides to every story. We don't know if the entire team wanted her gone. A hearing could leave scars on those remaining. She was offered an opportunity to transfer and she took it.

Whatever the standards the NCAA uses to grant waivers, we know they are given. It wouldn't surprise me if the NCAA says that having to sit 2 years places "an undo burden' on Cooper, or some such BS.
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
Probably the only direct flight from Corvallis to Meridian is on a crop duster.
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Ha ha. Well I was thinking Portland to Boise, with some driving to/from both airports. I did look, there are some direct flights, but some w/ 1 connection through Seattle.
 
Charliebball said:
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Littlepage was a Rutgers Men's BB coach in the 80's, where he went 23-63. Much better AD. We have a friend that has connections to both Rutgers and Virginia and always spoke very highly of him.

Nice to see the direction of their new hire, as well.
 
Alydar said:
Despite the rule you quote we all know that the rule is waived for various reasons. Notre Dame is in the process of trying to get a waiver for their transfer. There have been several waivers in the last couple of years.

My point was that Cooper wasn't expelled for cause. She transferred voluntarily and Tennessee gave her a full release. For what I have read she transferred in good standing. I was involved in employee misconduct situations in my job and more often than not the accused was offered an opportunity to resign prior to any disciplinary hearing and finding. It saves the employers from a process that they would like to avoid and it allows the employee to maintain a clean record. If we are to believe the stories, Cooper would have an opportunity to face the team mates with whom she had the fight along with her other team mates and the coaches. Those situations can be stressful for everyone as there are always two sides to every story. We don't know if the entire team wanted her gone. A hearing could leave scars on those remaining. She was offered an opportunity to transfer and she took it.

Whatever the standards the NCAA uses to grant waivers, we know they are given. It wouldn't surprise me if the NCAA says that having to sit 2 years places "an undo burden' on Cooper, or some such BS.
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Cooper was given the opportunity to transfer with no restrictions. She was facing discipline (suspension from school) from the university and I do wonder if the LV program was even given the opportunity to place restrictions on where she could go.

We know of 3 waiver requests:

Shepard at Notre Dame -- Muffet has used the term "hardship" to describe the request. I thought the NCAA had done away with the hardship waiver but maybe there's a new type of hardship waiver we haven't heard about. Maybe it's the hardship of Brianna Turner not being able to play.

Cooper at South Carolina -- the sitting-out-2-years-would-not-be-a-good-student-athlette-experience waiver.

Slocum at Oregon State -- the homesickness waiver.

A Notre Dame football transfer (Alohi Gilman) came up with an interesting argument earlier this year. Gilman transferred from Navy to Notre Dame and his argument for immediate eligibility was that he entered Navy when the Dept of Defense rule allowed graduates from the academies to defer the 2-year service commitment to play professional sports. The DoD changed the rule in the spring of 2017 and Gilman then transferred out. I guess the argument was that he would not have chosen Navy had he known his chance to play in the NFL would be delayed 2 years. The NCAA denied the request.
 
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