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True, but it won't work that way since FB drives the bus.They'd get some historically good basketball programs back in the fold in the bargain.
True, but it won't work that way since FB drives the bus.They'd get some historically good basketball programs back in the fold in the bargain.
It's a big double decker bus with basketball on topTrue, but it won't work that way since FB drives the bus.
The BE would no longer be able to compete for natties any more. A not-football BE will get outspent by conferences (P-whatevers) with surplus football money that they could invest in not-football.Agreed. But the BB only schools don't get much out of adding FB. The FB revenue goes to the FB schools. I do not see the incentive.
People been saying this since 2013. The league won 3 titles since then. If and when schools are given the ability to directly pay players with media money, then it might become an issue, but right now it's not.The BE would no longer be able to compete for natties any more. A not-football BE will get outspent by conferences (P-whatevers) with surplus football money that they could invest in not-football.
Things are different now than 2013.People been saying this since 2013. The league won 3 titles since then. If and when schools are given the ability to directly pay players with media money, then it might become an issue, but right now it's not.
Not to mention that NIL all it takes is one person with a lot of money to compete at a high level, like we've seen with St Johns.
Don't disagree, but when a conference has survived multiple "fatal" wounds throughout it's history and has continued to thrive, I don't see why they wouldn't be able to do it again.Things are different now than 2013.
Because the paradigm is about to be turned on its head like it never has before.Don't disagree, but when a conference has survived multiple "fatal" wounds throughout it's history and has continued to thrive, I don't see why they wouldn't be able to do it again.
Fair point. I stand by my assertion that I think the BE won’t survive in the upcoming landscape without accepting a football wing. I can see an ACC remnant/Big East merger that is strong G-whatever in both football and hoops.The other Fox game also got outdrawn by ESPN games. It involved the B1G. Making such declarations without contextualizing weakens the argument.
Not happening. The TV money is from football and you would need at least 12 football schools for a BE football league to make any sense. And, it would mean a 21 school BE basketball conference which isn't going to work. Plus, you would bring back the football/basketball tension again which nobody wants.Fair point. I stand by my assertion that I think the BE won’t survive in the upcoming landscape without accepting a football wing. I can see an ACC remnant/Big East merger that is strong G-whatever in both football and hoops.
A big East with Duke, Syracuse, BC, Pitt and maybe NCST would be fun. They all are fairly local and there would be existing rivalries there. You would need 2 more local teams to get to 8 football schools. I’m not sure you would want the Cali teams or SMU, but the alternatives would be UMass, Temple and BuffaloFair point. I stand by my assertion that I think the BE won’t survive in the upcoming landscape without accepting a football wing. I can see an ACC remnant/Big East merger that is strong G-whatever in both football and hoops.
USF a Memphis maybe.A big East with Duke, Syracuse, BC, Pitt and maybe NCST would be fun. They all are fairly local and there would be existing rivalries there. You would need 2 more local teams to get to 8 football schools. I’m not sure you would want the Cali teams or SMU, but the alternatives would be UMass, Temple and Buffalo
GA Tech tooUSF a Memphis maybe.
That will be the new ACC, not a new NBE.The Big East needs football. Bring it back asap. When the chance to reassemble the Big East as a football conference comes, pounce on it. There’s a lot of talent in the Big East footprint. Give kids that can choose UConn, Cuse, BC and VTech a reason to do so. Give them an east coast league. Rebuild the Big East. Use the population density to catch back up and contend.
I agree that a NACC is more likely than a NNBE ( or a NOBE, lol). UConn, Duke, BC, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Stanford/Cal/SMU, maybe WSU/OSU, Notre Dame as an affiliate for 3-5 years until they go B1G, maybe USF, maybe ECU, maybe James Madison. Not a bad scenario given all the potential Armageddon scenarios. For BB, you can get OOC games scheduled with BE rivals like St John's, Providence, Seton Hall, Georgetown to make it more interesting from a traditional rival standpoint.That will be the new ACC, not a new NBE.
I agree that a NACC is more likely than a NNBE ( or a NOBE, lol). UConn, Duke, BC, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Stanford/Cal/SMU, maybe WSU/OSU, Notre Dame as an affiliate for 3-5 years until they go B1G, maybe USF, maybe ECU, maybe James Madison. Not a bad scenario given all the potential Armageddon scenarios. For BB, you can get OOC games scheduled with BE rivals like St John's, Providence, Seton Hall, Georgetown to make it more interesting from a traditional rival standpoint.
I'd assume that there'd be other decent opponents in that revised ACC depending on how realignment shakes out, schools like Pitt, Louisville, or even Va Tech or NC State.I agree that a NACC is more likely than a NNBE ( or a NOBE, lol). UConn, Duke, BC, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Stanford/Cal/SMU, maybe WSU/OSU, Notre Dame as an affiliate for 3-5 years until they go B1G, maybe USF, maybe ECU, maybe James Madison. Not a bad scenario given all the potential Armageddon scenarios. For BB, you can get OOC games scheduled with BE rivals like St John's, Providence, Seton Hall, Georgetown to make it more interesting from a traditional rival standpoint.
The 16 school Big East rocked. Great basketball and football. Good times.man I miss big east football, would be so much better if we still had it
I think most of those would land in the Big12.I'd assume that there'd be other decent opponents in that revised ACC depending on how realignment shakes out, schools like Pitt, Louisville, or even Va Tech or NC State.
So do II think most of those would land in the Big12.
That all depends on what happens. No matter what it ends up being, he can point to this and claim he knew all along.Meaning what?
In reference to what?