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Wake Forest has to be very very nervous right now. And, also any non-football powers. BC, Syracuse, Pitt, very nervous. The nightmare for these schools is that the left-outs are all weak in basketball.

Clemson, Miami, VT, NC State might band together with the B12 left behinds. What incentive do they have to add northeast basketball? I don't see why.

The Frankenstein Conference will need a TV deal to make money. Many of the teams will be in areas that are overlaid by the SEC and B1G, as a result they will be second fiddle in much of their own footprint. Adding UConn, BC and Syracuse gives them a unique footprint in New England and also gets them exposure in NY.
 
Depends on what you mean by left out. If the ACC and Big 12 collapse the only landing spots for Clemson are the B1G, SEC, Pac-12 and the 'Misfit Toys' conference.
The SEC already has South Carolina, not sure they would add another SC team.
I don't think the Pac-12 is an option.
I don't see Clemson in the B1G.
That leaves the Misfit Toys. That may not be where Clemson wants to be, but it might be an upgrade from the current ACC, depending on who else ends up there.

You have a point, if you can explain to me why both the ACC and the Big 12 collapse. I see no reason for the ACC to go away. If it does, the teams left would join the Big 12 or AAC and create another rather formidable conference. And, the networks still need content. Those Misfit Toys would form a nice conference with a large footprint and solid fan bases.
 
Greg S w aim ‏@G S wa im · 37m37 minutes ago
Can't blame #UT for taking #LHN offer from ESPN...anyone would. But unless converting it to #Big12 Network soon, the conference is dead!!

Greg S wa im ‏@G S wa im · 34m34 minutes ago
#Big12 baseball example of how Olympic sports getting killed by lack of TV coverage, compared to other conferences Weak as it's ever been.

Greg S wa im ‏@G S wa im · 33m33 minutes ago
#UT should still get lions share of revenue until #LHN ends. but that is the main sticking point, and not sure it can be overcome.

Greg S wa im ‏@G S wa im · 22m22 minutes ago
I suppose the rest of the #Big12 teans can thank their lucky stars that #UT is so bad in most sports now...much less leverage for them.
 
Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 4h4 hours ago
Big12 your on the clock. Tic Tock

Matthew D Carlson ‏@mcgoblue 4h4 hours ago
@Bluevodreal realignment clock? 1 or 2 teams leaving?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 4h4 hours ago
@mcgoblue Blood in the water they need to pounce.

Joe Byrd ‏@JAByrd2000 3h3 hours ago
@Bluevodreal OU on its way out unless they act?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@JAByrd2000 it looked like it awhile ago but looks like Big 12 is going to hang on and become the Hunter with Big10. Things can always chang

Joe Byrd ‏@JAByrd2000 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal smart move by both conferences. Can essentially kill the ACC and avoid any litigation.

Genetics56 ‏@Genetics56 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal @JAByrd2000 if the ACC schools go to the B1G, then the Big 12 will take the rest of the ACC schools.

BrewDog ‏@BrewDog44 1h1 hour ago
@Genetics56 @Bluevodreal @JAByrd2000 Hearing B12 takes Clemson & Miami. ACC backfills with AAC teams

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 1h1 hour ago
@BrewDog44 @Genetics56 @JAByrd2000 sounds about right. Still hear UVA NC GT FSU. to bigten with ND in play.

BrewDog ‏@BrewDog44 55m55 minutes ago
@Bluevodreal @Genetics56 @JAByrd2000 ACC might backfill with UCONN, UC, UCF, USF, ECU and Memphis or Houston

TheFrogCast ‏@TheFrogCastTCU 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal so you think B12 goes first to add or be added? I'm late to your feed so I'm sorry I don't k ow you're assumptions.

TheFrogCast ‏@TheFrogCastTCU 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal but no ACCN and GOR breach go together I assume.

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@TheFrogCastTCU yes ESPN said No and no other is willing to hard to make money. So GOR is toast.ACC tried to get them to sign new GOR no go.

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@TheFrogCastTCU I think Big 12 is on the hunt.

TheFrogCast ‏@TheFrogCastTCU 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal on the hunt for ACC. Good to hear

Jared Rummel ‏@JaredRummel 3h3 hours ago
@Bluevodreal why is nobody else talking about this?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 3h3 hours ago
@JaredRummel They are starting to now.



MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 13m13 minutes ago
Getting some more rumors that could be a completely different shift for both B12 and ACC-could even affect SEC. Stay tuned.


ME: the cray-cray being turned up a notch...as if that was possible. :D
 
No one in a P5 conference needs to be worried.

We're like people in a burning building worrying about the neighbors because their house might be made of wood.

They're fine in every reality that hasn't been spun in West Virginia.
 
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No one in a P5 conference needs to be worried.

We're like people in a burning building worrying about the neighbors because their house might be made of wood.

They're fine in every reality that hasn't been spun in West Virginia.
Mmm, disagree. Everyone not in the B1G or the SEC just became a second class citizen. They may be fine relative to us, just as the guy with the worst house in town "is fine" relative to a homeless guy.
 
Shoot me if we get in the ACC and bring ECU with us. .
I has the same thought. If UNC, GTECH, Miami, FSU, Clemson, UVA all leave the ACC and they just backfill with basically everyone from the AAC it will be the same dumpster fire just new initials. Lol!
 
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Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 42m42 minutes ago

Reported Big Ten-Fox media rights deal could hurt Big 12

You wil now find RC COLA (Big 12) in aisle FS2...which you will find Big 12 Product next to bug spray & Mouse traps

The Pac 12 spurned Texas. Not the other way around. That is important, because Texas is down to one chair in this game, the ACC, which is also on a sinking ship.
 
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If this was the World Series of poker, Texas started the night with the most chips and just finished ninth

I'm not sure how you see that. Eventually SEC and B1G teams may make more off of their television rights, but for the time being Texas isn't hurting at all. They're still raking in a lot of money to play longtime rivals in a geographically convenient league.

For 2015, SEC schools received about $31m each and the Big 10 schools received about $32m each, but Texas received about $41m for the same apple-to-apple set of tier rights and bowl revenue. That's the $26m the Big 12 paid each school plus the $15m ESPN pays Texas for the LHN. Remember that the SEC and B1G numbers include Tier 3 money while Big 12 schools market their Tier 3 rights individually, like the LHN.

And the Big 12/LHN payout really only comprises about 22% of the Texas athletic department's revenue each year.

Also keep in mind that Texas could probably join the B1G tomorrow - if it wanted to.

Who knows what the future will hold? Anything can happen, but at the moment Texas is hardly in ninth place.
 
Though Texas is the southern Notre Dame in terms of the amount of headaches they cause others to have... they are definitely going to be fine by the time the GOR and Longhorn Network are phased out. Right now they don't have to worry about a thing with that money coming from the mothership based on one National Championship in football. Their market, research funding, and large alumni are too big to pass up.
 
I'm not sure how you see that. Eventually SEC and B1G teams may make more off of their television rights, but for the time being Texas isn't hurting at all. They're still raking in a lot of money to play longtime rivals in a geographically convenient league.

For 2015, SEC schools received about $31m each and the Big 10 schools received about $32m each, but Texas received about $41m for the same apple-to-apple set of tier rights and bowl revenue. That's the $26m the Big 12 paid each school plus the $15m ESPN pays Texas for the LHN. Remember that the SEC and B1G numbers include Tier 3 money while Big 12 schools market their Tier 3 rights individually, like the LHN.

And the Big 12/LHN payout really only comprises about 22% of the Texas athletic department's revenue each year.

Also keep in mind that Texas could probably join the B1G tomorrow - if it wanted to.

Who knows what the future will hold? Anything can happen, but at the moment Texas is hardly in ninth place.
The fine folks at A&M are laughing at you right now.
 
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The fine folks at A&M are laughing at you right now.

If Texas moves to the B1G, they'll be trumping A&M once again in revenue. Maybe SEC has more fans than B1G in Texas, which would help A&M, but it's not a bad thing to have a strong local rival with A&M as 1b to Texas's 1a -- see the UConn-BC football rivalry that should have been.
 
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UT is arguably the most valuable brand in the college landscape. No matter what happens to the Big12 (based on the Big12's historical inability to make timely decisions and lack of central leadership, I'd say the Big12 future is very questionable) UT will be fine. There will always be a spot for them in the BIG or PAC. The only door which is probably closed to UT is the SEC.

The very desperation UConn feels is the exact opposite for UT. UT wants to sustain the status quo and even if the Big12 collapse around them there will be a lifeboat for them. UT is making crazy money and is exactly where it wants to be....in the driver's seat of the Big12. UT may help drive the Big12 car off a cliff but there is a new shiny car waiting for them in another conference and they will be one of the very few Big12 passengers which has a safe bail out before the wreck.

UT's conference future is safe even if their image gets further bruised. UT may have a perception issue and is one of the most bashed programs in America but finding a home will not be an issue for them. The heaviest cross UT will have to bear is probably accepting a rank and file position in a premier conference and no longer having a unilateral veto and disproportionate control.

UConn is fighting for survival. UT is fighting for control. I'd much rather be in their position.
 
The Pac 12 spurned Texas. Not the other way around. That is important, because Texas is down to one chair in this game, the ACC, which is also on a sinking ship.

just a bit of an overstatement.

Recall what Scott said at the time - "Frankly, you can never be complacent but there's a sense that we're right there with any conference in the country in terms of the caliber of our TV deal both financially and exposure-wise."

Anything happen in terms of financial deals lately that might have Larry and his Presidents contemplating their level of complacency?
 
I don't get this tweet:

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 10m10 minutes ago


And because of this OU contacts have perception that in odd sort of manner Boren has lost some inertia..some power in B12 to move EXP faster

Is he saying that inertia is setting in, or that he has some power to move expansion faster?
 
If you take his words at face value, he is saying both.

But I think he meant to say that perhaps he has lost some influence - I assume because it is generally easier to lob grenades at the high command when you're not actually the high commander.
 
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