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[FDNY99]

The B1G may provide the additional revenue and cover some of the increased travel costs. Didn't they provide Maryland with a travel stipend? Maybe we can also get some other sport scheduling with them.

Hockey isn't football or basketball....they aren't going to bend over backwards to bring UConn in. Unless it's for all sports it isn't a good idea.

 

[Kolumbo]

If you want to think that way it would be Wolverines, Gophers and Badgers (if Minnesota and Wisconsin can ever get back at it again). Truth be told most of the B1G schools recruit out in the mid-west/west with Minnesota being the main producer of talent. The gopher's roster has 5 non-Minnesota kids on it (2 from Michigan, 1 from Alaska, and 1 from Sweden, 1 from Wisconsin)..although the kid form Alaska really doesn't count because ehe went to hs at Shattuck St Mary's in MN.

I know what you mean. I just meant kids watch football and think of conferences in those terms. Being able to play hockey and study engineering at Michigan might be a little more exciting than going to Northeastern. If they recruit primarily in the midwest, perhaps it's because they don't yet have a foothold in the northeast.

 

[FDNY99]

I know what you mean. I just meant kids watch football and think of conferences in those terms. Being able to play hockey and study engineering at Michigan might be a little more exciting than going to Northeastern. If they recruit primarily in the midwest, perhaps it's because they don't yet have a foothold in the northeast.

You have to take football out of the equation here. Kids that play hockey on this level have one thing in mind...making it to the NHL. Why would schools come this far east when they have a state like Minnesota and can go over the border into Canada to get kids. Boston Metro area kids grow up wanting to play for BC, BU, Harvard etc...and no matter what wanting to playing the Bean Pot.

 

[HuskyHawk]

No sense putting the cart before the horse here but if hockey means anything, and apparently it does, the B1G would be very smart to invite UConn. Imagine Michigan State, Ohio State, Michigan coming in to play double headers of hoops and hockey. That's how the B1G grows its hockey brand, recruiting in the bread basket of New England. Kids growing up playing hockey in CT and New York see B1G teams coming to town, I don't how much they will care that they don't have the history of boston schools. They are thinking Buckeyes, Wolverines, and Huskies!

I have no doubt, absolutely none, that the B1G would rather have UConn than ASU for hockey. But I also have no doubt that it would be a move that was very positive for the B1G and hugely negative for UConn, so it won't happen. All or nothing.

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 4h4 hours ago
UCONN was mentioned again twice this morning as candidate for #8 in B1G HCKY.
1) Star & Tribune - "UCONN is established and good acedemics"

Steve Lance ‏@Slance66 · 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire Why would UConn do that? Leave a better, local league? They wouldn't.

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire
@Slance66
I don't know if UCONN wants to...you may be absolutely correct. Only be assured B1G has talked with Susan Herbst.

 

[SAMCRO]

Since we are playing fantasy land, who would accept this scenario?
UConn to B1G in Hockey, and in return they get 2H and 2A football games per season v. rotating B1G schools; AND
UConn to ACC in Olympic sports, and in return gets 2H and 2A football games per season v. rotating ACC schools; AND
UConn Independent in football and are the first option considered if either B1G or ACC conference is unable to fill their allotment of bowls and UConn is bowl eligible. UConn football home game TV rights are optioned to the visiting teams conference TV network and UConn gets paid a little something for it; AND
UConn signs an ACC GOR with a clause that they can get out of the GOR without penalty if another P5 conference offers them full membership with football included.

This guarantees UConn 8 football games per season (same as today), they bring in an FCS and find 3 more "OOC" teams. Problem solved.

 

[NYUConn]

Since we are playing fantasy land, who would accept this scenario?
UConn to B1G in Hockey, and in return they get 2H and 2A football games per season v. rotating B1G schools; AND
UConn to ACC in Olympic sports, and in return gets 2H and 2A football games per season v. rotating ACC schools; AND
UConn Independent in football and are the first option considered if either B1G or ACC conference is unable to fill their allotment of bowls and UConn is bowl eligible. UConn football home game TV rights are optioned to the visiting teams conference TV network and UConn gets paid a little something for it; AND
UConn signs an ACC GOR with a clause that they can get out of the GOR without penalty if another P5 conference offers them full membership with football included.

This guarantees UConn 8 football games per season (same as today), they bring in an FCS and find 3 more "OOC" teams. Problem solved.

My head hurts.

 

[businesslawyer]

Since we are playing fantasy land, who would accept this scenario?
UConn to B1G in Hockey, and in return they get 2H and 2A football games per season v. rotating B1G schools; AND
UConn to ACC in Olympic sports, and in return gets 2H and 2A football games per season v. rotating ACC schools; AND
UConn Independent in football and are the first option considered if either B1G or ACC conference is unable to fill their allotment of bowls and UConn is bowl eligible. UConn football home game TV rights are optioned to the visiting teams conference TV network and UConn gets paid a little something for it; AND
UConn signs an ACC GOR with a clause that they can get out of the GOR without penalty if another P5 conference offers them full membership with football included.

This guarantees UConn 8 football games per season (same as today), they bring in an FCS and find 3 more "OOC" teams. Problem solved.

Yes. This. Because if the ACC wants anything its to have us be a member in basketball, to play us in football and to solve all our problems.

(Or, maybe, if the ACC wanted that we'd be in the ACC already.) Seriously, what is wrong with some of you? The ACC does not want us. If they do want us, they will invite us. But they are not going to pay us and put us on their network to co-brand us with the Big Ten. And if you say "but aren't they now doing that for Notre Dame," the answers are (i) yes, but no matter how many times some of you make this comparison we are not Notre Dame when it comes to market power, and (ii) I doubt the ACC is happy about what Notre Dame is doing but they probably don't have the contractual power to stop it.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Yes. This. Because if the ACC wants anything its to have us be a member in basketball, to play us in football and to solve all our problems.

(Or, maybe, if the ACC wanted that we'd be in the ACC already.) Seriously, what is wrong with some of you? The ACC does not want us. If they do want us, they will invite us. But they are not going to pay us and put us on their network to co-brand us with the Big Ten. And if you say "but aren't they now doing that for Notre Dame," the answers are (i) yes, but no matter how many times some of you make this comparison we are not Notre Dame when it comes to market power, and (ii) I doubt the ACC is happy about what Notre Dame is doing but they probably don't have the contractual power to stop it.

He did call it "fantasy land"

 

[junglehusky]

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire
@Slance66
I don't know if UCONN wants to...you may be absolutely correct. Only be assured B1G has talked with Susan Herbst.

But that can't be right because I read on this board that Susan doesn't care about sports. Even though she had a quote that the athletics programs are the "front porch" of the university. And was encouraging people to go to football games. And then UConn did the #UConn6thBorough campaign. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut the smart people know it's all an elaborate act and she would be happy if all the sports programs went the way of BC basketball and football.

#boneyardin'

 

[FAIRTIDES]

Since we are playing fantasy land, who would accept this scenario?
UConn to B1G in Hockey, and in return they get 2H and 2A football games per season v. rotating B1G schools; AND
UConn to ACC in Olympic sports, and in return gets 2H and 2A football games per season v. rotating ACC schools; AND
UConn Independent in football and are the first option considered if either B1G or ACC conference is unable to fill their allotment of bowls and UConn is bowl eligible. UConn football home game TV rights are optioned to the visiting teams conference TV network and UConn gets paid a little something for it; AND
UConn signs an ACC GOR with a clause that they can get out of the GOR without penalty if another P5 conference offers them full membership with football included.

This guarantees UConn 8 football games per season (same as today), they bring in an FCS and find 3 more "OOC" teams. Problem solved.

Not to channel "billybud," and invoke mythology, but you've just redefined "Sisyphean."

 

[FDNY99]

But that can't be right because I read on this board that Susan doesn't care about sports. Even though she had a quote that the athletics programs are the "front porch" of the university. And was encouraging people to go to football games. And then UConn did the #UConn6thBorough campaign. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut the smart people know it's all an elaborate act and she would be happy if all the sports programs went the way of BC basketball and football.

#boneyardin'

More like #Chief00in..

 

[TGW93]

My hope - or prayer if you will - is that it isn't about #8, it is about #16.

 

[SAMCRO]

Yes. This. Because if the ACC wants anything its to have us be a member in basketball, to play us in football and to solve all our problems.

(Or, maybe, if the ACC wanted that we'd be in the ACC already.) Seriously, what is wrong with some of you? The ACC does not want us. If they do want us, they will invite us. But they are not going to pay us and put us on their network to co-brand us with the Big Ten. And if you say "but aren't they now doing that for Notre Dame," the answers are (i) yes, but no matter how many times some of you make this comparison we are not Notre Dame when it comes to market power, and (ii) I doubt the ACC is happy about what Notre Dame is doing but they probably don't have the contractual power to stop it.

Not to channel "billybud," and invoke mythology, but you've just redefined "Sisyphean."

Re-read my first sentence...

 

[The Viking]

My hope - or prayer if you will - is that it isn't about #8, it is about #16.

Who is 15?

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

I was under the impression that UConn's investment in hockey in the first place had B1g written all over it. If they add hockey, one has to think the ultimate marriage is in the works as well.

On what basis was such an impression concocted?

 

[BoatShow]

Not a fan of hockey only. Makes us look like the kid who tries out for a team and sucks but the coach likes his hustle so he makes him manager. Or we're in the friend zone. Don't like it!

 

[pj]

Who is 15?

If hockey is the precursor, Notre Dame in 2025.

 

[MattMang23]

The B10 still wants DC market? They haven't gotten it yet? I guess American University to the B10!

 

[Seaa Blue]

Curse you @BlueVod. I was starting to enjoy my Easter weekend. Don't do this to me, again.

 

[TGW93]

Who is 15?

Let me state up front - I haven't been drinking fine West Virginia basement-still white lightning tweets, however trippy they may be. However...

The Big10 has needed hockey partners for several years, and I can't think of a reason why there would be any delay if it was really going to be ASU. The agreement would clearly be hockey only, and there's no reason why ASU wouldn't (and couldn't) say yes the moment they were offered.

I think the delay in timing is because we're #15 (and #8 for hockey) - and number 16, or 16-18, or 16-20 (or whatever the Big10 end goal is) is somewhat fluid and dependent upon how the next few months play out.

Even if we aren't already "in" - if I was the Big10 I would view Uconn as the pin in the grenade of total conference chaos. Conference realignment only about money - nothing else. And I can't fathom the Big10 letting a Big12 Network or ACC Network getting a presence in the northeast, in a top 20-ish market (the combined CT DMA), and a meaningful presence in the NY and Boston markets, when it can have those markets (and that money) all to itself.

No ACC or Big12 network leads to chaos. Chaos leads to the Big10's end goal, and please (please!) let the chaos begin.

 

[huskymedic]

The Big10 has needed hockey partners for several years, and I can't think of a reason why there would be any delay if it was really going to be ASU. The agreement would clearly be hockey only, and there's no reason why ASU wouldn't (and couldn't) say yes the moment they were offered.

>>Arizona State coach Greg Powers said it's a question he gets every day, and is one the program is close to answering. "We have not made a decision yet, but we're close," Powers said. "We're down to getting very granular and plan on using the Frozen Four to meet with different people to do that. And shortly after that we'll probably have an announcement to make."<<

 

[TGW93]

Boo! Need more moonshine tweets!

 

[jostar1]

Let me state up front - I haven't been drinking fine West Virginia basement-still white lightning tweets, however trippy they may be. However...

The Big10 has needed hockey partners for several years, and I can't think of a reason why there would be any delay if it was really going to be ASU. The agreement would clearly be hockey only, and there's no reason why ASU wouldn't (and couldn't) say yes the moment they were offered.

I think the delay in timing is because we're #15 (and #8 for hockey) - and number 16, or 16-18, or 16-20 (or whatever the Big10 end goal is) is somewhat fluid and dependent upon how the next few months play out.

Even if we aren't already "in" - if I was the Big10 I would view Uconn as the pin in the grenade of total conference chaos. Conference realignment only about money - nothing else. And I can't fathom the Big10 letting a Big12 Network or ACC Network getting a presence in the northeast, in a top 20-ish market (the combined CT DMA), and a meaningful presence in the NY and Boston markets, when it can have those markets (and that money) all to itself.

No ACC or Big12 network leads to chaos. Chaos leads to the Big10's end goal, and please (please!) let the chaos begin.

I keep thinking of this quote from Delany to give myself hope. For crying out loud, he put an office in New York City. But nothing happens.

"There sat the Big Ten, quiet amid the chaos. Finally, Delany had to act. The tipping point: The ACC’s move into the Big Ten’s geographic region.

“At that point, there was more risk to not do anything,” said Delany. “It was worth the risk to change. To not change with other leagues coming into our areas … ”

Enter Rutgers and Maryland."

- See more at: http://btn.com/2014/05/07/dienhart-big-tens-big-bold-move-east/#sthash.DNYW6nrq.dpuf

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

There's no rush to add ASU right away, and the quote about using the FF to meet with everyone is pretty much on point. The coaches need to decipher it, decide on it and tell their presidents how to vote. There's some due diligence that needs to be done about ASU's arena situation, and research into who would be the backup option, as well as debating it. The hold up is not because they want to extend an all-sports invite to UConn. ASU is the frontrunner, this has been rumored for a while. Barring any unforeseen arena problem, they'll be #8. Fantasies about this becoming UConn's ticket to the B1G in all sports are just that, fantasies.