Non-Key Tweets

[SubbaBub]

The PAC should just sit back and wait of the inevitable B12 collapse and try to pick up the best of the best. Texas, OU, and KU have value. The rest of the conference really doesn't bring much of anything to a conference network. The PAC could just add one of those schools and supplement it with BYU in order not to have OSU/TT/KSU shoved down its throat.

My fear is the B1G is doing the same thing as well as waiting for a select few ACC teams to grow weary of the money gap.

 

[Adios]

The Pac has to negotiate in advance, it can't compete with SEC or B1G for the best schools. If it can tie the B12 up in a partnership it has a better chance.

They can easily compete with the SEC or Big 10 for the southern plains states. Oklahoma, my guess, is either going to the SEC or Pac 12. I am surprised New Mexico has no value to the Pac 12.

With the Pac 12/Big 10 alliance, we'd want Oklahoma to go to UT/OU/TT/OSU going to the Pac-12, KU, UConn, UVA and UNC to the Big 10. Leave NC State/Duke and VT for the SEC.

 

[Dooley]

My fear is the B1G is doing the same thing as well as waiting for a select few ACC teams to grow weary of the money gap.

That could be. That's why it is so important for both the B12 and ACC to launch their own conference network first, before the other one. Financially and probably logistically speaking, there is only room for one more conference network. The loser of this race will lose its seat at the P5 table and their upper echelon schools will be poached by the bigger conferences. There are more schools in the ACC that have P4 value than in the B12. So that is why I would think it would be wise for all of those small potato schools in the B12 to band together, force expansion, and launch a network ASAP. That means adding the top brands and markets, no matter the distance/geography.

 

[tzznandrew]

They can easily compete with the SEC or Big 10 for the southern plains states. Oklahoma, my guess, is either going to the SEC or Pac 12. I am surprised New Mexico has no value to the Pac 12.

With the Pac 12/Big 10 alliance, we'd want Oklahoma to go to UT/OU/TT/OSU going to the Pac-12, KU, UConn, UVA and UNC to the Big 10. Leave NC State/Duke and VT for the SEC.

If Nevada and New Mexico had stronger programs and were more academically rigorous, they'd both make perfect sense with UT and OU. You'd have the whole coast, and then a foothold in the whole Serah Williams, and up into Denver too. It would make a lot of sense.

 

[pj]

If Nevada and New Mexico had stronger programs and were more academically rigorous, they'd both make perfect sense with UT and OU. You'd have the whole coast, and then a foothold in the whole Serah Williams, and up into Denver too. It would make a lot of sense.

New Mexico is West Virginia but much weaker athletically. Nevada is another small state with limited growth potential due to serious water issues, not to mention negatives around gambling and poor academics, plus historically weak athletics. Honestly, Iowa State would be a more attractive add than any schools in Nevada or New Mexico.

 

[SubbaBub]

That could be. That's why it is so important for both the B12 and ACC to launch their own conference network first, before the other one. Financially and probably logistically speaking, there is only room for one more conference network. The loser of this race will lose its seat at the P5 table and their upper echelon schools will be poached by the bigger conferences. There are more schools in the ACC that have P4 value than in the B12. So that is why I would think it would be wise for all of those small potato schools in the B12 to band together, force expansion, and launch a network ASAP. That means adding the top brands and markets, no matter the distance/geography.

Why we are talking wise about the NCAA and it member schools aside, the wise thing would be for the big publics in both the ACC and B12 to form their own conference.

Uva/VT/UNC/NCST/Clem/FSU
TX/OU/OKST/KU/KSU/IAST

Pick two from the Texas schools and/or Duke, WVA, and Lville to get to 14 or 16. The other fools can form the American Too Conference.

 

[tzznandrew]

New Mexico is West Virginia but much weaker athletically. Nevada is another small state with limited growth potential due to serious water issues, not to mention negatives around gambling and poor academics, plus historically weak athletics. Honestly, Iowa State would be a more attractive add than any schools in Nevada or New Mexico.

Well, my point is that in an ideal world both could be easy additions that would help bridge into OU and Texas. That's not the case, though, for the reasons I--and you--pointed out. Neither has the athletic program nor the academic quality to join up.

 

[Point6]

Why we are talking wise about the NCAA and it member schools aside, the wise thing would be for the big publics in both the ACC and B12 to form their own conference.

Uva/VT/UNC/NCST/Clem/FSU
TX/OU/OKST/KU/KSU/IAST

Pick two from the Texas schools and/or Duke, WVA, and Lville to get to 14 or 16. The other fools can form the American Too Conference.

While I value objectivity, I think we need a little more homer-ism in these imaginary conferences so that UConn gets in at least before Louisville and Duke.

 

[kyleslamb]

Big 12 and Pac-12 discussing merger? This site doesn't have the type of emoticons necessary to express how much I'm laughing over that 'rumor.'

Nevermind how the "dude" has told us how great footing the Big 12 has all this time, now he's telling us they're willing to discuss merger? Brilliant.

 

[Exit 4]

Big 12 and Pac-12 discussing merger? This site doesn't have the type of emoticons necessary to express how much I'm laughing over that 'rumor.'

Nevermind how the "dude" has told us how great footing the Big 12 has all this time, now he's telling us they're willing to discuss merger? Brilliant.

Yeah, this place has gone off the hook during the snowy weekend.

 

[NYUConn]

Yeah, this place has gone off the hook during the snowy weekend.

Seriously. I come here for false hope in the form of tweets, not to hear crackpot theories about a coast-to-coast mega-conference.

 

[Stinger92860]

Yeah, this place has gone off the hook during the snowy weekend.

I think you mean that somewhere in West Virginia, in a basement with no windows, is a man who has gone off the hook. I hope no one here believes this stuff. I just think it's funny.

 

[CL82]

Seriously. I come here for false hope in the form of tweets, not to hear crackpot theories about a coast-to-coast mega-conference.

Yeah! I like to limit things to crackpot theories that are more relevant to UConn.

 

[Jarhead_1775]

The dood said "put that in your pipe and smoke it". You guys inhaled deeply, man!!! What have we become?!? I can't take the pain anymore!

 

[upstater]

Why are WV fans so invested?

Because they get left out with Iowa St., Kansas St. and others in any shakeup.

 

[Kolumbo]

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
http://collegesports.blog.statesman.com/2016/01/26/bob-bowlsby-big-12-has-no-imperative-to-expand/ …

Big 12 Civil War.
Any more doubts?
No...there isn't...and if you've been following us for last 6 months you know

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
http://collegesports.blog.statesman.com/2016/01/26/bob-bowlsby-big-12-has-no-imperative-to-expand/ …

Dinner with BTM on Jan 30th.
Your decision...but you might want to check in.
Big 12 Civil War

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
Asked whether Oklahoma or West Virginia could ever leave the Big 12, Bowlsby said, “There are always those possibilities"
Big 12 Civil War

 

[nelsonmuntz]

If the Commissioner is in Texas' pocket, there won't be expansion.

 

[jostar1]

Tuxedo Yoda ‏@TuxedoYoda · 4h4 hours ago
People saying ACC GOR invalid without ACC Network. No idea if true. My guy in Tx Ath Dept says B12 never stopped talking about ACC schools.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Out of curiosity, where is West Virginia going to end up if they do leave the B-12?

 

[Dooley]

Out of curiosity, where is West Virginia going to end up if they do leave the B-12?

They will be an semi-annual game at the Rent again.

 

[TRest]

They will be an semi-annual game at the Rent again.

I'm afraid UL broke the ACC academic hymen, and WVU can now have a shot going there.

 

[TRest]

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
http://collegesports.blog.statesman.com/2016/01/26/bob-bowlsby-big-12-has-no-imperative-to-expand/ …

Big 12 Civil War.
Any more doubts?
No...there isn't...and if you've been following us for last 6 months you know

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
http://collegesports.blog.statesman.com/2016/01/26/bob-bowlsby-big-12-has-no-imperative-to-expand/ …

Dinner with BTM on Jan 30th.
Your decision...but you might want to check in.
Big 12 Civil War

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
Asked whether Oklahoma or West Virginia could ever leave the Big 12, Bowlsby said, “There are always those possibilities"
Big 12 Civil War

How come I never have dinner with anyone other than family members? None of them seem to know anything about conference realignment, or are keeping it to themselves.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

The lunacy of some WVU fans is astonishing. No conference that can come within shouting distance of the B-12 in terms of money or prestige would give WVU the time of day yet a fan ( question had to come from a WVU fan) sees them as similar to Oklahoma. The fact is a B-12 without Oklahoma or Texas may still be a better option for them than anything out there.

 

[jostar1]

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 6h6 hours ago
B12 update: 10 members including OU & Texas. 2 votes for expansion. 6 votes against expansion. 2 votes what's in expansion for me?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 5h5 hours ago
As much as I would love to believe FSU has reached out to the Big 12 again... it's just not true.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 5h5 hours ago
Now maybe the Big 12 has talked to FSU.... I'm not about to kill that... but the outcome was maybe... well...what you would expect.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 5h5 hours ago
If any talks actually occurred....which is just rumor... unconfirmed.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 5h5 hours ago
Like it or not the Big 12 isn't a prime mover. It missed its chance. Now the best it can hope for is to clean up after others.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 1h1 hour ago
Asked whether Oklahoma or West Virginia could ever leave the Big 12, Bowlsby said, “There are always those possibilities. …

Christopher Lambert
‏@theDudeofWV @ecdawg_BI Just may have to talk about what can't be talked about....

Bulldawg Illustrated ‏@ecdawg_BI · 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV > This podcast is going to be so much fun

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 1h1 hour ago
@ecdawg_BI I'm in a pickle....does Bowlsby's comment open the door for us to talk about it... or not.

Bulldawg Illustrated ‏@ecdawg_BI · 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV > That's going to be on you, my friend. I say, heck yeah.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 1h1 hour ago
@ecdawg_BI Bowlsby said it.... should open the door to talk about it...

Bulldawg Illustrated ‏@ecdawg_BI · 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV > Agree

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 1h1 hour ago
@ecdawg_BI I will... will keep details mostly OTR...

Bulldawg Illustrated ‏@ecdawg_BI · 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV > Sounds good

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 1h1 hour ago
There are certain items I don't talk about because I'm asked not to talk about.