Non-Key Tweets

[whaler11]

I think what he means is that Arizona is currently an out of market channel for the BTN and adding Arizona St would make Arizona an in market channel. Thus, the BTN could charge higher rates.

It means they could try. Didn't work in PA. It's a meaningless distinction.

As if the Network's value is 8 fold because a local college hockey team has a handful of games on it.

It isn't what he said anyway. Why would the alumni care what the rate is?

 

[Dooley]

My personal opinion: B1G would add ASU for live games that alumni can attend. Not for any sort of TV boost. If they want Hockey TV, UConn or BC or BU would make far more sense.

 

[UConn Dan]

I'm generally a fan of how Flug conducts himself, but this one is nothing to take credit for. ND leaving Hockey East had been widely written about. Heck, it came from their own student newspaper last year with quotes from their coach.

He seems like a rational guy. As such, he's good at making educated guesses. Same was the situation with the Maryland-ACC settlement. Everyone knew they were going to settle and there was a published mediation by date.

 

[businesslawyer]

Um if you were Big 10 alumni wouldn't you already want the BTN in Phoenix? Why would Arizona State hockey be what changes your mind?

God some of this stuff is so dumb.

Actually, it's almost the opposite of his point. Big Ten alum in Phoenix want the Big Ten network for reasons having nothing to do with hockey. But the thought that the rest of the Phoenix population is willing to pay for the Big Ten Network to gets 6 or 7 ASU hockey games is more bizarre than even most of the stupid things that we come up with.

 

[Fishy]

Hockey is not moving the needle an iota in terms of television and carrier fees.

My guess is that only a tiny subset of Big Ten alum/fans even care about hockey - and half the schools do not even play it.

So I'll wager that the number of Big Ten hockey fans currently drawing breath in Phoenix wouldn't fill a movie theater.

 

[The Viking]

If the B1G really had interest in our hockey and hoops and didn't want us to go down the shtter due to no revenue, they should just add us for all sports except football, where you could throw us 5-6 games a year to help us build our independent schedule, give us partial team payment to keep us afloat until the B1G is ready to add 1-3 new members once GOR's expire. You get our hoops, hockey, other olympic sports, the market, you get the B1G thrown on every CT TV etc.

Of course the easy answer is they don't have much interest since we aren't AAU and they don't do those ND type deals...or they have some interest but know the ACC won't move due to the ND deal and they feel that us potentially going to the Big 12 will be a nice incubator for us until they are ready to pluck us (if they even want to).

It may be crazy to suggest it but this is right forum for it. Oh well.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Um if you were Big 10 alumni wouldn't you already want the BTN in Phoenix? Why would Arizona State hockey be what changes your mind?

God some of this stuff is so dumb.

They think both of ASU's hockey fans will also want BTN, and that critical mass will result in carriage.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Hockey is not moving the needle an iota in terms of television and carrier fees.

My guess is that only a tiny subset of Big Ten alum/fans even care about hockey - and half the schools do not even play it.

So I'll wager that the number of Big Ten hockey fans currently drawing breath in Phoenix wouldn't fill a movie theater.

Though they would probably out-number fans of the NHL's Phoenix Coyotes, which, of course, is not saying much.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 6h6 hours ago
Hearing this morning that FSU has told ACC they will challenge GOR validity in court this fall regardless of what conf they call home

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 6h6 hours ago
Currently there are 8 ACC schools that will not sign a new GOR for extra ESPN $

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 6h6 hours ago
FSU says they do not want to leave ACC but have to keep options open since ACC is going to fall further behind SEC and others

Mountaineer Steve ‏@Mountaineer_Ste 7h7 hours agoIrmo, SC
@MH ver3 It will come down to TexA$$ giving up LHN for B12N. If that happens the ACC is dead, if not the B12 will die after GOR

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@Mountaineer_Ste I agree with this

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 6h6 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste although I am hearing UT will play ball on LHN conversion but the details are the big hold up

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 52m52 minutes ago
@Mountaineer_Ste 15 mil,just the branding in Texas(minus Waco,Lubbock,FW) and keep original programming.

J ‏@UCONNfan14 23m23 minutes ago
@MH ver3 thats because they are due the money july 1st or 2nd know facts. /can't receive $ b4 the time it is due to conference its out online

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@UCONNfan14 no. I'm talking about $$ promised before launch of network.

J ‏@UCONNfan14 16m16 minutes ago
@MH ver3 they have reached that plateau and they will reach the other so with that said unless fsu recorded "secert meeting" w/ acc not void!

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 21m21 minutes ago
ESPN may help to keep UT "whole" during transition of LHN to B12N. ESPN knows it's for the best financially.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 21m21 minutes ago
They are taking a beating on LHN. More content,more markets,more subscriber fees will lead to profit.

J ‏@UCONNfan14 21m21 minutes ago
@MH ver3 so it wont increase to price tag until 7/1/16 as stated in articles http://atleagle.blogspot.com/2016/03/what-is-future-of-acc-network.html…

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@UCONNfan14 they were supposed to be making more than that already. They were promised that. The extra $45m to the conf is because no ACCN

J ‏@UCONNfan14 12m12 minutes ago
@MH ver3 each school supposed to be at 19-20 M which they are you know nothing FSU more interested in SEC which they have been rumored as

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 4m4 minutes ago
@UCONNfan14 ok man. Whatever. Keep your head in the sand too

J ‏@UCONNfan14 5m5 minutes ago
@MH ver3 this is what espn has been doing which is why no network know your stuff they own ACC so why pay more $ http://www.nunesmagician.com/2014/2/27/5453790/espn-launching-acc-network-plus-14-other-online-college-conference-channels…

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2m2 minutes ago
@UCONNfan14 if you think that is the ACCN then you are the one who knows nothing. Jon snow

J ‏@UCONNfan14 1m1 minute ago
@MH ver3 thats what they have been doing also rumored to go digital with raycom insult all you want but u knew nothing of this flugar got it

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 16m16 minutes ago
And for those that think ND joining that northern conference in hockey is not a big deal...keep your head in the sand.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 15m15 minutes ago
I would divulge further but I can't right now.


ME: "Flugar got it" Ouch!

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire
Greg Flugaur Retweeted Notre Dame Hockey

…

Notre Dame releases their statement


Greg Flugaur Retweeted
Mike McMahon ‏@MikeMcMahonCHN · 2h2 hours ago
Jack Swarbrick’s statement is interesting. Travel part is true. The TV part is a shot at Hockey East.

Daniel Mountcastle ‏@Expansion_Crush · 2h2 hours ago  Atlanta, IN
@MikeMcMahonCHN @flugempire and could be used against ACC in 2024 if the situation doesn't change.

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire
@Expansion_Crush @MikeMcMahonCHN
Especially if NBC plays a role in partnering with FOX to get partial B1G Tier 1 TV package starting= 2017

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

I fail to see how Hockey East's TV contract could be used against the ACC.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 6h6 hours ago
Hearing this morning that FSU has told ACC they will challenge GOR validity in court this fall regardless of what conf they call home

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 6h6 hours ago
Currently there are 8 ACC schools that will not sign a new GOR for extra ESPN $

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 6h6 hours ago
FSU says they do not want to leave ACC but have to keep options open since ACC is going to fall further behind SEC and others

Mountaineer Steve ‏@Mountaineer_Ste 7h7 hours agoIrmo, SC
@MH ver3 It will come down to TexA$$ giving up LHN for B12N. If that happens the ACC is dead, if not the B12 will die after GOR

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@Mountaineer_Ste I agree with this

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 6h6 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste although I am hearing UT will play ball on LHN conversion but the details are the big hold up

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 52m52 minutes ago
@Mountaineer_Ste 15 mil,just the branding in Texas(minus Waco,Lubbock,FW) and keep original programming.

J ‏@UCONNfan14 23m23 minutes ago
@MH ver3 thats because they are due the money july 1st or 2nd know facts. /can't receive $ b4 the time it is due to conference its out online

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@UCONNfan14 no. I'm talking about $$ promised before launch of network.

J ‏@UCONNfan14 16m16 minutes ago
@MH ver3 they have reached that plateau and they will reach the other so with that said unless fsu recorded "secert meeting" w/ acc not void!

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 21m21 minutes ago
ESPN may help to keep UT "whole" during transition of LHN to B12N. ESPN knows it's for the best financially.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 21m21 minutes ago
They are taking a beating on LHN. More content,more markets,more subscriber fees will lead to profit.

J ‏@UCONNfan14 21m21 minutes ago
@MH ver3 so it wont increase to price tag until 7/1/16 as stated in articles http://atleagle.blogspot.com/2016/03/what-is-future-of-acc-network.html…

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@UCONNfan14 they were supposed to be making more than that already. They were promised that. The extra $45m to the conf is because no ACCN

J ‏@UCONNfan14 12m12 minutes ago
@MH ver3 each school supposed to be at 19-20 M which they are you know nothing FSU more interested in SEC which they have been rumored as

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 4m4 minutes ago
@UCONNfan14 ok man. Whatever. Keep your head in the sand too

J ‏@UCONNfan14 5m5 minutes ago
@MH ver3 this is what espn has been doing which is why no network know your stuff they own ACC so why pay more $ http://www.nunesmagician.com/2014/2/27/5453790/espn-launching-acc-network-plus-14-other-online-college-conference-channels…

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2m2 minutes ago
@UCONNfan14 if you think that is the ACCN then you are the one who knows nothing. Jon snow

J ‏@UCONNfan14 1m1 minute ago
@MH ver3 thats what they have been doing also rumored to go digital with raycom insult all you want but u knew nothing of this flugar got it

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 16m16 minutes ago
And for those that think ND joining that northern conference in hockey is not a big deal...keep your head in the sand.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 15m15 minutes ago
I would divulge further but I can't right now.


ME: "Flugar got it" Ouch!

I have a picture of MH

 

[jostar1]

I fail to see how Hockey East's TV contract could be used against the ACC.

I think he's saying that if the ACC doesn't get a network, then ND could use the same excuse (better TV coverage) if they leave the ACC for B1G at the end of GOR.

 

[Point6]

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2m2 minutes ago
@UCONNfan14 if you think that is the ACCN then you are the one who knows nothing. Jon snow

Key or non-key, that was funny!

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 24m24 minutes ago
Because of certain issues (people) I'm taking all expansion related discussion off Twitter and moving it to Facebook with a private group.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 23m23 minutes ago
Why? To promote sane, intelligent conversation about CFB expansion issues without belligerence or agenda. Access will be strictly controlled

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 22m22 minutes ago
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1574964402819108/… I'm sorta new with facebook so forgive any hiccups that occur as I learn the platform.


ME: Oh, my! What would we do without the 'shine-addled fantasies of the Dood?

 

[hardcorehusky]

THE SELF IMPOSED BAN ENDS IN 3-2-1......

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 22m22 minutes ago
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1574964402819108/… I'm sorta new with facebook so forgive any hiccups that occur as I learn the platform.

The Dude on Facebook with the ability to post pictures of him & his family, basement, moonshine rig. No way this ends well.

 

[dayooper]

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 24m24 minutes ago
Because of certain issues (people) I'm taking all expansion related discussion off Twitter and moving it to Facebook with a private group.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 23m23 minutes ago
Why? To promote sane, intelligent conversation about CFB expansion issues without belligerence or agenda. Access will be strictly controlled

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 22m22 minutes ago
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1574964402819108/… I'm sorta new with facebook so forgive any hiccups that occur as I learn the platform.


ME: Oh, my! What would we do without the 'shine-addled fantasies of the Dood?

He did this before. It didn't last long.

 

[Ha Who]

Only in the world of Karmanos and Bettman would ASU make sense. Hopefully, the Big is smarter than the NHL

 

[businesslawyer]

Only in the world of Karmanos and Bettman would ASU make sense. Hopefully, the Big is smarter than the NHL

What the Big is getting is one weekend every year, or every other year, where their administrators get to fly to Scottsdale in the winter and have an event with alumni who care only about football. The travel for ASU will be awful. For a hockey team going at most once a year into warm weather, it's fine. If ASU is never really competitive in the Big Ten, it's only hockey -- the presence in front of local alums really makes it a can't lose.

 

[TRest]

THE SELF IMPOSED BAN ENDS IN 3-2-1.

I imagine his twitter followers are only there for giggles, so taking away his only "material" will make him a very lonely man.

 

[Jimdish255]

Kinda sounds like he's "Sticking it to the man" by banning himself from Twitter.

 

[Ldandy]

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 24m24 minutes ago
Because of certain issues (people) I'm taking all expansion related discussion off Twitter and moving it to Facebook with a private group.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 23m23 minutes ago
Why? To promote sane, intelligent conversation about CFB expansion issues without belligerence or agenda. Access will be strictly controlled

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 22m22 minutes ago
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1574964402819108/… I'm sorta new with facebook so forgive any hiccups that occur as I learn the platform.


ME: Oh, my! What would we do without the 'shine-addled fantasies of the Dood?

"To promote sane, intelligent conversation about CFB expansion issues without belligerence or agenda."

LOL that's great stuff. Especially coming from a clearly insane dumb*** who is on record stating that his efforts are tied to trying to bring about the destruction of The ACC Conference. At least he won't allow any belligerence or agenda in his discussion group.

 

[hardcorehusky]

I would love to know who on the Boneyard will be on his Facebook page. Most of us are blocked on twitter.....

 

[CTMike]

I would love to know who on the Boneyard will be on his Facebook page. Most of us are blocked on twitter.....

I mean, I don't want to engage with him anyway, but DEFINITELY not with my actual name and info. He's crazy enough to do something with it.

 

[uchusky32]

I mean, I don't want to engage with him anyway, but DEFINITELY not with my actual name and info. He's crazy enough to do something with it.

Wow, you have a different name?
So that's not your picture either?

 

[pj]

Join his Facebook group with a fake name (Delany, or Swofford, or Swarbrick). Then make confident assertions based on nothing. You could become a source!

 

[FDNY99]

1. Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2m2 minutes ago
   2) Radio"UCONN could be added because of Acedmics & location.UCONN & Notre Dame both played & had talks with B10 officials in MN last year"
   
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2. 
   Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 7m7 minutes ago
   UCONN was mentioned again twice this morning as candidate for #8 in B1G HCKY. 1) Star & Tribune - "UCONN is established and good acedemics"
   
   
   As a hockey season ticket holder I'd definitely be OUT on this move..unless it is an all sports move. HE is the perfect league for UConn...travel costs are about as minimal as you can get with everything being bus travel and the only full weekend on the road is when they play away at Maine. Total rivalry league...and UConn compete's where they recruit. Add to that the caliber of competition.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

1. As a hockey season ticket holder I'd definitely be OUT on this move..unless it is an all sports move. HE is the perfect league for UConn...travel costs are about as minimal as you can get with everything being bus travel and the only full weekend on the road is when they play away at Maine. Total rivalry league...and UConn compete's where they recruit. Add to that the caliber of competition.

I agree in that I'm sure it would deter the hockey contingent. However, to me, nearly 600 pages of Non-Key Tweets (half of which are B1G related) have brainwashed me to believe that we cannot turn down that offer if it is presented to us. We would need to keep in the B1G's good graces for any chance of a permanent invite down the line. Just my 2 cents though. I see it from both perspectives.

EDIT: I'm by no means a real hockey fan. I'm a casual UConn hockey fan at best, much like soccer and baseball. To me, football/basketball lead my way of thinking.

 

[uchusky32]

For the reason ND left the HE is the same reason we should stay.