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It don't get much more non-key than quoting my random ramblings on Twitter.
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It don't get much more non-key than quoting my random ramblings on Twitter.
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He nailed this prediction, early. He nailed the hard one, anyway. Why hasn't ASU been announced, yet?
I now think he has some inside info.
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I assume we'd take that deal in a minute. I don't see why in the world the XII would take our football and not want our hoops, but if they did then football is safe in a big time league and we move everything else to the Big East, if they'll take us, or if not the A-Ten. But the A-Ten plus UConn is a better basketball league than the American is now, and it's certainly more geographically concentrated.
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I'd sign that contract in blood.
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He actually broke Big Twelve wrestling expansion as well as Coastal Carolina moving up to FBS before anyone else. Those aren't huge things but they show he knows someone somewhere that feed him info.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @Odharris1 @Doctor_alesmith
So much for the false theory that B1G would not add any non-AAU school even as an affiliate
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @Odharris1 @Doctor_alesmith
Nope...this is not a "ND Only" agreement. B1G trying to get ASU HCKY on board - non AAU.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @Odharris1 @Doctor_alesmith
And B1G has talked with UCONN HCKY.
So no...it's not a "ND only" non AAU pathway to expansion
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @Odharris1 @Doctor_alesmith
Some have told you all differently...but they were incorrect.
AAU first.....but not ONLY.
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And we truly don't even know if UCONN is even a bit interested. We never knew. Still don't.
@DooleyMcStitch @Odharris1 @Doctor_alesmith
So much for the false theory that B1G would not add any non-AAU school even as an affiliate
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @Odharris1 @Doctor_alesmith
Nope...this is not a "ND Only" agreement. B1G trying to get ASU HCKY on board - non AAU.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @Odharris1 @Doctor_alesmith
And B1G has talked with UCONN HCKY.
So no...it's not a "ND only" non AAU pathway to expansion
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @Odharris1 @Doctor_alesmith
Some have told you all differently...but they were incorrect.
AAU first.....but not ONLY.
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And we truly don't even know if UCONN is even a bit interested. We never knew. Still don't.
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Does anyone know which hockey conference would produce the most revenue for UConn Hockey? I thought the B1G network paid out 2m per team last year.
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Yeah BUT every road trip in the B1G is via airplane with a hotel stay. HE is by bus...with only the trip up to Maine where the team stays over. Take hotels and airfare out of the mix and the profit margin may be higher in HE.
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Assuming the Big East would take our hoops, of course we'd do it. But the suggestion is preposterous. Our other sports all upgrade the competition level of the league, and provide valuable content for a possible network.
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Of course it's preposterous. If the Big XII only wants football only members, it won't be us. Our value in selling the Big XII network in New York is based on basketball. Not football. New York City is not paying extra money to get 4 UConn football games a year.
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In this fantasy scenario, why settle for a mid-major conference for our hoops? Why not call up Swofford's office? Or hell, call up Delany and make an offer. I would be absolutely stunned if any conference would not be highly interested in bringing in our two-headed basketball monster.
The Big East can go punt. If we're debating about fantasy world stuff, I'm not putting our two elite hoops programs in a permanent mid-major who airs games to a Public Access level audience. I'm putting them both in the ACC/B1G/SEC and will enjoy watching the majority of our games on channels that I am confident we all have on our basic cable lineup.
The Big East can go punt. If we're debating about fantasy world stuff, I'm not putting our two elite hoops programs in a permanent mid-major who airs games to a Public Access level audience. I'm putting them both in the ACC/B1G/SEC and will enjoy watching the majority of our games on channels that I am confident we all have on our basic cable lineup.
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Ultimately, fantasy world gets crushed with this. Our football is competitive and offers markets that huge brands would love to expand into, but its our hoops programs that ultimately deliver the "Wow factor". There isn't a P5 conference out there that would take just our football program without also significantly boosting their winter and March Madness content too.
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Branding becomes an issue. No one cares about this in hockey, because so few people watch, but it's not at all clear to me that the ACC would be interested in helping to build UConn's basketball brand if that helps the Big XII compete in football in New York and New England. If this silly scenario was to play out, no other football conference would take our hoops. You would do a deal with the Big East if you could and the A Ten if you couldn't. And as I said before, the A Ten for hoops would be a step forward just in hoops from where we are now, and the Ten would be able to generate more money for its hoops if we were in it.
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Despite the absurd possibilities floating around out there, the recent activity suggests this to me: something is going on.
I don't think any of these yokels truly knows what is going to happen, but there is activity for sure. I think that is generally positive news for UConn. It is also evident, based on an unscientific view of various boards and comments, that the reality of what UConn brings is sinking in. We seem to be more acceptable to more people who previously scoffed at the idea.
I don't think any of these yokels truly knows what is going to happen, but there is activity for sure. I think that is generally positive news for UConn. It is also evident, based on an unscientific view of various boards and comments, that the reality of what UConn brings is sinking in. We seem to be more acceptable to more people who previously scoffed at the idea.
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Penn St is likely a bus trip. It's about 6 hour bus trip between Storrs and State College. Unless UConn gets a direct charter flight to State College, its at least 6 hours by plane after taking into account check-in and a transfer (Newark/Philly/Dulles). Could also combine road trips into a single flight for some schools, such as Michigan, Michigan St, and Notre Dame, which are within 3 hours of each other.
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Hockey is played on Fri/Sat even in the B1G. How can you tie together a road trip with one single flight and not be away form campus for a few weeks? B1G hockey isn't like B1G football or hoops. They have a shorter ride to Orono right now and they lay 2 games up there staying over night. UConn in the B1G for hockey would be like ND was in HE. If they want UConn as a full member that's one thing...but not for hockey. Besides..one of the BIG issues Jeff Jackson had with being in HE was recruiting issues...ie: they played little to no games in their natural recruiting terrority. Right now UConn competes in it's natural recruiting territory. Why change something that isn't broken. And oh yeah last thing...6 teams from HE made the Frozen Four tournament. B1G...just 1 Michigan who got the auto bid by winning the conference tournament.
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Valid points. Was just looking at this from a transportation issue. Overall, unless the bottom is about to fall-out completely, UConn should only go to the B1G as a full fledged member in all sports.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 3h3 hours ago
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If ASU comes along...B1G Alumni in Phoenix will push for BTN access everywhere.
This IS a big deal
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@85bevo @Expansion_Crush @OmegaSupreme914
Meant...B1G Alumni in AZ will push for HCKY/BTN access everywhere in Phoenix.
My bad...
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
In the Star & Tribune article this morning it says ND would have probably joined B1G HCKY 3 years ago if B1G would have asked..
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
It also states B1G approached Notre Dame..B1G "sparked the conversation" with Notre Dame.
This happened late last year...as we tweeted out.
Steve Lance @Slance66 · 1h1 hour ago
@flugempire @pfh1964 @DooleyMcStitch The question is, is the B12 flirting with UConn enough to make B1G pre-empt them with an all in offer?
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No steam in this direction. We would say no...not at this time.
@Expansion_Crush @OmegaSupreme914
If ASU comes along...B1G Alumni in Phoenix will push for BTN access everywhere.
This IS a big deal
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@85bevo @Expansion_Crush @OmegaSupreme914
Meant...B1G Alumni in AZ will push for HCKY/BTN access everywhere in Phoenix.
My bad...
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
In the Star & Tribune article this morning it says ND would have probably joined B1G HCKY 3 years ago if B1G would have asked..
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
It also states B1G approached Notre Dame..B1G "sparked the conversation" with Notre Dame.
This happened late last year...as we tweeted out.
Steve Lance @Slance66 · 1h1 hour ago
@flugempire @pfh1964 @DooleyMcStitch The question is, is the B12 flirting with UConn enough to make B1G pre-empt them with an all in offer?
Greg Flugaur@flugempire
@Slance66 @pfh1964 @DooleyMcStitch
No steam in this direction. We would say no...not at this time.
Frank the Tank @frankthetank111 · 11h11 hours ago
New Frank the Tank post: Notre Dame Joins the Big Ten... for Hockey
http://frankthetank.me/2016/03/22/big-ten-adds-notre-dame-for-hockey/
New Frank the Tank post: Notre Dame Joins the Big Ten... for Hockey
http://frankthetank.me/2016/03/22/big-ten-adds-notre-dame-for-hockey/
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Please don't tell me the B1G pays their hockey programs about the same as the AAC pays their schools for all of their basketball and football programs. I'm begging you not to tell me that.
