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MH ver3‏@MH ver3
The $50m + per school per year number I mentioned for next B10 contract doesn't include bowls or playoff $. Just wanted to clarify.

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
B12 knows it is falling behind sec and B10 and knows a B12N is the only way to close that gap.

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
Expansion won't be about the best football, best recruiting grounds, or even proximity. It will be about TV market first then those things.

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
ACC is almost assuredly going to have defections. Doubling TV money is only part of it. #CIC

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
B12 stands to make a lot off of 2 AAC additions. If ACC implodes B12 stands to make a whole lot.could come very close to sec B10 $$

DocBunyan@DocBunyan
@MH ver3 not really, bc sec and b1g will cannibalize acc and take their highest properties, increasing their value even more.

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@DocBunyan schools like FSU Miami and Clemson will not be taken by sec/B10 so B12 will have great options.

Drew@HoustonsOwnDrew
@MH ver3 then why not houston?

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@HoustonsOwnDrew B12 has Texas markets already.

Drew@HoustonsOwnDrew
@MH ver3 @HoustonsOwnDrew but it's losing the Houston one fast!!!!

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@HoustonsOwnDrew carriage fees are normally statewide and LHN has Houston already. LHN will become B12N.

Drew@HoustonsOwnDrew
@MH ver3 but people don't watch it

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@HoustonsOwnDrew doesn't matter. People don't watch BTN either but still pay for it on their cable bill

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
Just heard the AAC has reached out to BYU, Boise St, SDSU, and Colorado St in regards to joining after defections of UC/Uconn. #dejavu

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
AAC offering a $5m signing bonus per school to join if all 4 come together

Brian A@BriUConn
@MH ver3 your making that shit up. signing bonus???

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@BriUConn I wish. This comes straight from my old BigEast contact whose info is always spot-on. these schools will keep TV deal intact.

Brian A@BriUConn
@MH ver3 approaching those 4 schools would be a smart move and could believe it

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@BriUConn I have no idea where the $$ will come from unless the AAC has a rainy day fund. Buyout $ from defectors maybe??

TheFrogCast@TheFrogCastTCU
@MH ver3 real question is who moves first to start ACC domino? Thoughts welcomed

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@TheFrogCastTCU wouldn't be suprised if B12 snags a couple first if it becomes certain others are leaving.

TheFrogCast@TheFrogCastTCU
@MH ver3 I think this plan might work. I've always wondered who wanted to be on the hook first. Sounds like a Delaney move to me.

TheFrogCast@TheFrogCastTCU
@MH ver3 but Louisville Clemson Miami and FSU sound good to me

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@TheFrogCastTCU wouldn't be suprised if B12 snags a couple first if it becomes certain others are leaving.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 Feb 15
UC president tells AD to "get ready" in regards to changing conference affiliations.

Timothy Hinds ‏@Timhinds4 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 your big east source tel you that? JW

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@Timhinds4 he's an AAC source now but her was a BigEast source a few years back.

Timothy Hinds ‏@Timhinds4 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 hmm. I wonder how they heard this.. If you hear that ACC is losing schools than why are big 12 jumping at 2 AAC schools?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
@Timhinds4 B12 needs schools NOW for the network to get off the ground-content and markets. ACC schools come later

Timothy Hinds ‏@Timhinds4 54m54 minutes ago
@MH ver3 gotcha!


ME: Ha! Just read Daniel Figurelli daring MH ver3 to agree to a wager. :D
 
Waquoit said:
And for the really stupid ones, Don-Key Non Tweets.
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Has our own Deputy Dawg even returned to the Yard after his attempted Dragnet episode the other day?
 
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All this smoke saying UConn is getting a lifeline is giving me an eerie sense of deja vu. We heard all this in 2012 and those rumors had us going to a basketball-centric league in our general geographical area.
 
amory said:
All this smoke saying UConn is getting a lifeline is giving me an eerie sense of deja vu. We heard all this in 2012 and those rumors had us going to a basketball-centric league in our general geographical area.
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True but it's a completely different situation. ACC was making moves for football purposes. B12 potentially making moves for network purposes. We all know the ACC was shortsighted in this one.
 
UConnTrumbull said:
True but it's a completely different situation. ACC was making moves for football purposes. B12 potentially making moves for network purposes. We all know the ACC was shortsighted in this one.
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I like that Boren has specifically said that research has to rule the decision. This may be directed at anyone looking at Houston. My only fear is that Texas gets pressure to push for Houston. Oklahoma and the others may not like it, but they'd take Houston if it meant they'd get expansion and a network (kind of like the ACC BBall teams caving to the FBall schools). We may have supporters (like we did in the ACC), but I don't think we have anyone that would come out shooting for us. I wish it was ESPN, but I don't think we can count on them. We seem to be in a good spot right now, but we've seen that change before.
 
Chuck said:
I like that Boren has specifically said that research has to rule the decision. This may be directed at anyone looking at Houston. My only fear is that Texas gets pressure to push for Houston. Oklahoma and the others may not like it, but they'd take Houston if it meant they'd get expansion and a network (kind of like the ACC BBall teams caving to the FBall schools). We may have supporters (like we did in the ACC), but I don't think we have anyone that would come out shooting for us. I wish it was ESPN, but I don't think we can count on them. We seem to be in a good spot right now, but we've seen that change before.
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I share your concern. I am worried about Texas politics. That said, I don't see how Houston helps the Big XII get a network. UConn has to be worth more money to the Big XII. I know the saying is that 'football drives the bus' but that is only true because football is where the money is, it's really money that drive the bus.
 
BlueHen said:
I share your concern. I am worried about Texas politics. That said, I don't see how Houston helps the Big XII get a network. UConn has to be worth more money to the Big XII. I know the saying is that 'football drives the bus' but that is only true because football is where the money is, it's really money that drive the bus.
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Texas politics means nothing to Boren and OU.
 
UConnTrumbull said:
True but it's a completely different situation. ACC was making moves for football purposes. B12 potentially making moves for network purposes. We all know the ACC was shortsighted in this one.
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Agreed. The B1G showed the correct blueprint for expansion when it opted for a greater footprint and came east, it looks like the Big XII is working off of that blueprint.
 
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Chuck said:
I like that Boren has specifically said that research has to rule the decision. This may be directed at anyone looking at Houston. My only fear is that Texas gets pressure to push for Houston. Oklahoma and the others may not like it, but they'd take Houston if it meant they'd get expansion and a network (kind of like the ACC BBall teams caving to the FBall schools). We may have supporters (like we did in the ACC), but I don't think we have anyone that would come out shooting for us. I wish it was ESPN, but I don't think we can count on them. We seem to be in a good spot right now, but we've seen that change before.
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I agree. In my heart of hearts i'm hoping we supplant Cincinnati as 11, then from there que sera, sera. I have to believe from a conference network perspective we may be the best overall choice. Sure we have factors working against us as well. Fingers crossed.
 
NYUConn said:
Texas politics means nothing to Boren and OU.
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Perhaps not, but if Texas decides that the only way it will agree on the LHN and expansion is if one of the expansion adds is Houston, Boren and Oklahoma might compromise.
Of course, that could result in Cincy getting bumped and UConn getting a bid along with Houston
 
BlueHen said:
Perhaps not, but if Texas decides that the only way it will agree on the LHN and expansion is if one of the expansion adds is Houston, Boren and Oklahoma might compromise.
Of course, that could result in Cincy getting bumped and UConn getting a bid along with Houston
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Boren doesn't have to compromise. He has as many options as Texas. That's what this is partially about. It's a power play by Boren to get on an even playing field with Texas. If they don't oblige, Boren is gone to just as green pastures.
 
djct1999 said:
Boren doesn't have to compromise. He has as many options as Texas. That's what this is partially about. It's a power play by Boren to get on an even playing field with Texas. If they don't oblige, Boren is gone to just as green pastures.
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That doesn't mean that he won't compromise. Getting a network, and expansion, and 1 of his 2 desired teams might be enough.
 
BlueHen said:
That doesn't mean that he won't compromise. Getting a network, and expansion, and 1 of his 2 desired teams might be enough.
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For Boren to compromise, the first team has to be byu or uconn. I am not sure they would even get a network adding cincy and Houston. A compromise with the second two teams would be only for a championship game with assurances that Ou is off to the sec or b1g when this current deal is up. To me, Texas has more to lose in that scenario than OU.
 
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BlueHen said:
That doesn't mean that he won't compromise. Getting a network, and expansion, and 1 of his 2 desired teams might be enough.
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For Boren to compromise, the first team has to be byu or uconn. I am not sure they would even get a network adding cincy and Houston. A compromise with the second two teams would be only for a championship game with assurances that Ou is off to the sec or b1g when this current deal is up. To me, Texas has more to lose in that scenario than OU.
 
djct1999 said:
For Boren to compromise, the first team has to be byu or uconn. I am not sure they would even get a network adding cincy and Houston. A compromise with the second two teams would be only for a championship game with assurances that Ou is off to the sec or b1g when this current deal is up. To me, Texas has more to lose in that scenario than OU.
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You post as if you are sure. Do you have a source that we should know about? Is this a 'Key' discussion. :)
 
Chuck said:
I like that Boren has specifically said that research has to rule the decision. This may be directed at anyone looking at Houston. My only fear is that Texas gets pressure to push for Houston. Oklahoma and the others may not like it, but they'd take Houston if it meant they'd get expansion and a network (kind of like the ACC BBall teams caving to the FBall schools). We may have supporters (like we did in the ACC), but I don't think we have anyone that would come out shooting for us. I wish it was ESPN, but I don't think we can count on them. We seem to be in a good spot right now, but we've seen that change before.
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I can see it now. OU suggests us, Texas suggests Houston and they meet in the middle with BYU. CR rule #1
 
amory said:
All this smoke saying UConn is getting a lifeline is giving me an eerie sense of deja vu. We heard all this in 2012 and those rumors had us going to a basketball-centric league in our general geographical area.
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Which is why you shouldn't be paying any attention to it unless you can accept that it's like reading and commenting on science fiction
 
djct1999 said:
Boren doesn't have to compromise. He has as many options as Texas. That's what this is partially about. It's a power play by Boren to get on an even playing field with Texas. If they don't oblige, Boren is gone to just as green pastures.
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Just don't see networks paying for an overlapping market if Houston. The Houston talking heads can scream all they want bit Houston is already watching or paying for B12/Texas content.
 
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BlueHen said:
You post as if you are sure. Do you have a source that we should know about? Is this a 'Key' discussion. :)
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Lets assume the big 12 implodes. OU goes to the SEC. Lets assume Texas goes to the ACC with a sweetheart deal similar to ND. I am really not sure that is sustainable for Texas. On top of that, they will be sandwiched by SEC money in OU and Texas A&M. They really can evolve(regress) to being the third wheel in that region. In my opinion, Texas needs the Big12 and OU far more than vice versa.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
BYU presents other problems, namely the no competition on Sundays thing.
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Ehhh. That can all be worked around. I think that's way overblown. They haven't been competing on Sundays forever and the MWC found a way to accommodate them. WCC does now. At worst, they assure a BXII conference network has better ratings on weeknights if they play basketball on a Monday rather than Sunday.
 
Boren is pushing the "hard data" numbers because he knows it will result in the teams Oklahoma prefers.

Not sure how UT can successfully argue they should get their LHN money up front while at the same time arguing for a team like Houston which produces less money in a network. Is UT going to take less than full the $15 million up front for Houston over a UConn/Cincy/BYU? Last team I saw pull a move like that was ND in the Big East and we all saw how that ended.

IMO B12 expansion is network based and the financials conducted by the independent firm will be the penultimate determinate. This is not the same situation as the ACC with Louisville so hopefully the outcome is different.
 
The compromise to get Houston in to the Big12 is expanding to 14.

UConn, UCF/USF together or one of them, possibly Cincy then who cares if Houston comes along.

If you can get the Noetheast, Central Florida and possibly Ohio, you can afford another mega Texas market.
 
Hard for me to wrap my mind around the notion of wanting to get anything related to central Florida
 
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