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Christopher Lambert Retweeted
Mountaineer Steve ‏@Mountaineer_Ste · 18h18 hours ago
@Manny_Insanity @theDudeofWV Disney owns ESPN & will NOT allow more $$ spent on what they already own & why ACC keeps using stall tactics

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16h16 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste @Manny_Insanity A few UC people are claiming UC has an ACC invite forthcoming. 100% false.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16h16 hours ago
@Manny_Insanity UC adds zilch to the ACC. Doesn't improve football or hoops. Wouldn't add $. Actually hurts SoS.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16h16 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste @Manny_Insanity End of story. No offense to UC but if they had value they would be in the P5.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16h16 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste @Manny_Insanity The reality is that Pitt, Cuse, WVU & UL were all picked over UC.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16h16 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste @Manny_Insanity And nothing, not even the modest facilities improvements, has changed.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16h16 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste @Manny_Insanity If UC gets into the B12 it will be solely because of their proximity to Morgantown.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16h16 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste @Manny_Insanity Of all the G5 schools only BYU comes close to being P5 worthy & they have their own issues.
 
jostar1 said:
Christopher Lambert Retweeted
Mountaineer Steve ‏@Mountaineer_Ste · 18h18 hours ago
@Manny_Insanity @theDudeofWV Disney owns ESPN & will NOT allow more $$ spent on what they already own & why ACC keeps using stall tactics

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16h16 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste @Manny_Insanity A few UC people are claiming UC has an ACC invite forthcoming. 100% false.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16h16 hours ago
@Manny_Insanity UC adds zilch to the ACC. Doesn't improve football or hoops. Wouldn't add $. Actually hurts SoS.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16h16 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste @Manny_Insanity End of story. No offense to UC but if they had value they would be in the P5.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16h16 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste @Manny_Insanity The reality is that Pitt, Cuse, WVU & UL were all picked over UC.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16h16 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste @Manny_Insanity And nothing, not even the modest facilities improvements, has changed.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16h16 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste @Manny_Insanity If UC gets into the B12 it will be solely because of their proximity to Morgantown.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16h16 hours ago
@Mountaineer_Ste @Manny_Insanity Of all the G5 schools only BYU comes close to being P5 worthy & they have their own issues.
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Joestar found these 2 to add to this exchange:
  1. Mountaineer Steve ‏@Mountaineer_Ste 30 Dec 2015
    @theDudeofWV Would that be UC Cincinnati, or UC UCONN? What is the rumor?


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  2. Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 30 Dec 2015
    @Mountaineer_Ste UCONN is UCONN. The rumor is UC is getting invited to the ACC.
 
Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 49m49 minutes ago
This is why Football Demographics, along with Market and Travel, is the leading indicator (B10 perspective) on where B12 does expansion.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 46m46 minutes ago
B12, without the help of a Conf Network, and with other exposure issues, need to expand in Football Demographic areas.
Need to..and will.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 45m45 minutes ago
The question BTM can't answer tonight...and may not be able to until official announcement...will it be..
MEM/CINCY
MEM/UH
UH/CINCY

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 44m44 minutes ago
For the Big 12 Brand to survive...it needs to expand into Football markets and Football Demographic (talent)..with at least decent TV market

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 43m43 minutes ago
Good news for Big 12....as we mentioned in Summer...Boren has won the arguement in Big 12.
Starr - Boren - Gee has given their views to B12

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 41m41 minutes ago
Now we wait.
But not for much longer
Big 12 Expansion, if done right..with an added B12 Network a few years from now could save Conference

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 40m40 minutes ago
All the candidates have pros and cons...to add 2 will take compromise between the 10 current universities. TV partners will need to approve

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 39m39 minutes ago
However...BTM believes TV approval has been done with leading candidates. As we have mentioned...B12 Expansion Train is way down the tracks

E. Michael Kamp ‏@Epfourteen · 38m38 minutes ago
@flugempire will teams start in 2017?!

Greg Flugaur
‏@flugempire @Epfourteen Yes

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 29m29 minutes ago
To my UCONN & BYU friends..it would surprise the Big Ten if either one if you were selected by B12 (lack FB demographics)
But good luck.

E. Michael Kamp ‏@Epfourteen · 27m27 minutes ago
@flugempire still the 3 finalists you've been saying ?

Greg Flugaur
‏@flugempire @Epfourteen We believe so.
 
Houston this year's success aside does nothing for a conference with Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU from a TV perspective. If they get in its pure Texas politics at play. Nothing wrong with that, whatever it takes if you're Houston. Memphis for ever has been dog sheet in FB. Fuente led a two season revival but really they're two last two years are no better than some of our years from 07-10. If they don't take BYU because they're looking east, Cincy and us make the most sense for a league that may one day be looking for a conference network.
 
The Big 12 cares about one thing: Memphis generates as many SEC football players as anywhere. If they expand I'd be shocked if it didn't include Memphis.
 
whaler11 said:
The Big 12 cares about one thing: Memphis generates as many SEC football players as anywhere. If they expand I'd be shocked if it didn't include Memphis.
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If that is what they are after, then I'd expect it to be Memphis and Cincinnati.
 
noeynox said:
Houston this year's success aside does nothing for a conference with Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU from a TV perspective. If they get in its pure Texas politics at play. Nothing wrong with that, whatever it takes if you're Houston. Memphis for ever has been dog sheet in FB. Fuente led a two season revival but really they're two last two years are no better than some of our years from 07-10. If they don't take BYU because they're looking east, Cincy and us make the most sense for a league that may one day be looking for a conference network.
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I have the impression that U Texas cares about its position in Texas, athletically and politically, while Oklahoma has its eyes on the national stage. If the XII does not expand or adds Houston and Memphis, Oklahoma is gone and once the Sooners leave, Kansas and possibly OK State will follow.

While the XII did get a team into the playoffs, the XII's overall bowl performance in 2016 is not helping their cause. They one 1 game (Baylor over UNC) while Oklahoma was beaten convincingly by Clemson in the semi-final and the rest of the teams did not show-up - TT lost to LSU by 29, OK State lost to Ole Miss by 28, K State lost to Arkansas by 22, TCU is down by 14 to Oregon, and no one cares that WV is in a bowl. The American did not d much better; but, the conference did get a marquee win with Houston smoking Florida St.
 
noeynox said:
If that is what they are after, then I'd expect it to be Memphis and Cincinnati.
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I don't think they are going to expand, but if they go to 12 that would be my guess.
 
Very good point. Memphis and Cincy give them in roads to new, rich recruiting areas, and can challenge B1G and SEC for players, whereas those 2 have encroached in their markets in a sense.

I don't see a NE presence being important to the B12. Not enough alumni or future alumni to matter. Cincy would play UT or OU @ Paul Brown stadium and Memphis has the 60k Liberty bowl. But who knows what they are thinking.

noeynox said:
If that is what they are after, then I'd expect it to be Memphis and Cincinnati.
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JSM1970 said:
Very good point. Memphis and Cincy give them in roads to new, rich recruiting areas, and can challenge B1G and SEC for players, whereas those 2 have encroached in their markets in a sense.

I don't see a NE presence being important to the B12. Not enough alumni or future alumni to matter. Cincy would play UT or OU @ Paul Brown stadium and Memphis has the 60k Liberty bowl. But who knows what they are thinking.
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Be careful. You are starting to give yourself away.
 
whaler11 said:
The Big 12 cares about one thing: Memphis generates as many SEC football players as anywhere. If they expand I'd be shocked if it didn't include Memphis.
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I think they are. Things had to break just right for them to get into the playoff again. Right or wrong, they are being penalized for not having a championship game.

I don't know what they will find most important, Memphis is,not going to get picked up by anyone else. They will always be there for the picking.
 
noeynox said:
I think they are. Things had to break just right for them to get into the playoff again. Right or wrong, they are being penalized for not having a championship game.

I don't know what they will find most important, Memphis is,not going to get picked up by anyone else. They will always be there for the picking.
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If anyone was going to make a selection from the G5 pool based on who might be taken by another league.... it would have happened at some point in the years since Louisville was selected.
 
No, no way. I, like everyone, want out of the AAC as fast as possible, just don't see the B12 story, but would be 100% behind that like everyone if no chance for B1G, ACC.

it could be all about UT and their brand and LHN, and getting more NE presence.

ASweet3781 said:
Be careful. You are starting to give yourself away.
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whaler11 said:
The Big 12 cares about one thing: Memphis generates as many SEC football players as anywhere. If they expand I'd be shocked if it didn't include Memphis.
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The one thing the Big 12 cares about is money. The reason they have resisted expanding so far is because there aren't teams available that make a 12 way split as lucrative as a 10 way split.

The Big 12 doesn't need to add teams to improve recruiting, and it doesn't need to add teams to improve the quality of football. It may need to add teams so that it can have a playoff. If that is the case then UConn is in play. We may add more revenue than any other available candidate.

Nothing surprises me when it come to CR, and Memphis and Cincy may well be the choices, but UConn has to be a strong candidate; and I suspect that a lot of the recent buzz about UConn is because people are figuring that out.

The Big 1o decided that they wanted to be more than just a midwest conference, so they came east, let's hope that the Big 12 is just as smart.
 
whaler11 said:
If anyone was going to make a selection from the G5 pool based on who might be taken by another league.... it would have happened at some point in the years since Louisville was selected.
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Perhaps, but if 6-10 years down the road you have an eye on a potential conference network, which school(s) can you reasonably scoop up that can help you with that? Which schools if you don't pick up them up now may not be there later? That is how I would look at it if I was being reasonable. Nothing about CR has been reasonable.

More than likely its wishful thinking on my part. If they were just looking at local talent, they'd be wise to scoop up one of the Florida directionals. Like Memphis, they'll always be there if that is the directions they're looking for. I'd argue that Cincinnati will always be there as well.
 
noeynox said:
Perhaps, but if 6-10 years down the road you have an eye on a potential conference network, which school(s) can you reasonably scoop up that can help you with that? Which schools if you don't pick up them up now may not be there later? That is how I would look at it if I was being reasonable. Nothing about CR has been reasonable.

More than likely its wishful thinking on my part. If they were just looking at local talent, they'd be wise to scoop up one of the Florida directionals. Like Memphis, they'll always be there if that is the directions they're looking for. I'd argue that Cincinnati will always be there as well.
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There are 20 posters on the Boneyard who have more insight into CR than the Presidents of the Big 12. They can barely see 6-10
months down the line nevermind 6-10 years.
 
I don't think Memphis has a prayer.

You cannot have a worse reputation than Memphis has built over the years - they're just toxic. Not happening - like UCF, the Big East had to be on fire to become desperate enough to invite them. No chance.

No disrespect to people having imaginary dinner dates with Big Ten people, but how do you claim that the Big 12 "needs to expand in Football Demographics" and then insist that Houston is a likely invite.

Once again, these people are nuts.
 
BlueHen said:
The one thing the Big 12 cares about is money. The reason they have resisted expanding so far is because there aren't teams available that make a 12 way split as lucrative as a 10 way split.

The Big 12 doesn't need to add teams to improve recruiting, and it doesn't need to add teams to improve the quality of football. It may need to add teams so that it can have a playoff. If that is the case then UConn is in play. We may add more revenue than any other available candidate.

Nothing surprises me when it come to CR, and Memphis and Cincy may well be the choices, but UConn has to be a strong candidate; and I suspect that a lot of the recent buzz about UConn is because people are figuring that out.

The Big 1o decided that they wanted to be more than just a midwest conference, so they came east, let's hope that the Big 12 is just as smart.
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I guess we disagree. The Big 12 can't play football with the other leagues. They have tried to create a cocoon with 9 conf games and playing no one OOC - but they are exposed.
 
Fishy said:
I don't think Memphis has a prayer.

You cannot have a worse reputation than Memphis has built over the years - they're just toxic. Not happening - like UCF, the Big East had to be on fire to become desperate enough to invite them. No chance.

No disrespect to people having imaginary dinner dates with Big Ten people, but how do you claim that the Big 12 "needs to expand in Football Demographics" and then insist that Houston is a likely invite.

Once again, these people are nuts.
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Completely agree anyone talking about Houston is completely inventing things.
 
whaler11 said:
I guess we disagree. The Big 12 can't play football with the other leagues. They have tried to create a cocoon with 9 conf games and playing no one OOC - but they are exposed.
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I agree that the Big 12 is being exposed this bowl season, and that is a problem. I would argue that not having a conference championship game is a bigger problem; it's also an easier problem to fix - just add two more teams.

There are no teams available that would make the Big 12 a better football conference or solve the 'exposure' problem. I don't think adding Cincy will help the Big 12 outrecruit the the Big 10 in Ohio, I don't think adding Memphis will help the Big 12 outrecruit the SEC in Tennessee and I don't think adding UConn will help the Big 12 outrecruit the Big 10 or ACC in New York. But...adding UConn might bring more exposure and TV money than Cincy or Memphis. That is the argument that I think UConn should be making when it tries and sells itself to the Big 12. (I think that UConn and Temple would be better choices than Cincy and Memphis, but I don't think that will happen)
 
BlueHen said:
I agree that the Big 12 is being exposed this bowl season, and that is a problem. I would argue that not having a conference championship game is a bigger problem; it's also an easier problem to fix - just add two more teams.

There are no teams available that would make the Big 12 a better football conference or solve the 'exposure' problem. I don't think adding Cincy will help the Big 12 outrecruit the the Big 10 in Ohio, I don't think adding Memphis will help the Big 12 outrecruit the SEC in Tennessee and I don't think adding UConn will help the Big 12 outrecruit the Big 10 or ACC in New York. But...adding UConn might bring more exposure and TV money than Cincy or Memphis. That is the argument that I think UConn should be making when it tries and sells itself to the Big 12. (I think that UConn and Temple would be better choices than Cincy and Memphis, but I don't think that will happen)
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I am not claming the Big 12 will outrecruit anyone in Memphis or Ohio.

I think their decision process is that simple though. They took West Virginia because they produce a solid football product.

I think if they expand it will be in places they get some fraction of players.
 
whaler11 said:
I am not claming the Big 12 will outrecruit anyone in Memphis or Ohio.

I think their decision process is that simple though. They took West Virginia because they produce a solid football product.

I think if they expand it will be in places they get some fraction of players.
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UConn and one of the Florida schools works for me. Also might be what ultimately happens.
 

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