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Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 3m3 minutes ago
@flugempire And you & I disagree strongly on the notion that non-revenue sports will ever be valuable.

@flugempire 18s18 seconds ago
@theDudeofWV Because WVU does not owned part of a growing network that is getting more and more of its slice from AD buys vs Carriage

Greg Flugaur @flugempire
· now 8 seconds ago
@theDudeofWV What I just described is the new world. Even SECN is branching out in live content...not for charity...but for economic growth
 
upstater said:
How is this different from most sports outside the big 3? How is hockey different from Lacrosse? Swimming? Gymnastics?
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There's some truth to what you say about hockey, I mean there's a reason it's big with the Ivy's and New England prep schools... but down here, outside of Philly, there's a lot of working class people that devote a huge portion of their income so their kids can play hockey.
 
I don't see how it's so hard to understand that a college sports network might see value in being able to broadcast college sports during a larger portion of the year.
 
IMind said:
There's some truth to what you say about hockey, I mean there's a reason it's big with the Ivy's and New England prep schools... but down here, outside of Philly, there's a lot of working class people that devote a huge portion of their income so their kids can play hockey.
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It's the same up here. Working class.

But lacrosse is the same up here as well.

I don't see much of a difference in these sports.
 
I just love that Porter got included in a whole mess of that stuff last night. I know you're reading this @NoEscalators.
 
upstater said:
It's the same up here. Working class.

But lacrosse is the same up here as well.

I don't see much of a difference in these sports.
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Yeah, hockey's an interesting mix... both my kids play... and you get a real wide range of people.

I think if you're on the outside looking in you could see it both sports as elitist, because of the cost, and because of the Northeast prep schools..

Lacrosse is a newer add here in PA... but a lot of kids that play hockey with my kids also play lacrosse. Our local youth organization went from just a few teams with older kids to where now it probably rivals baseball in just a few years. My wife's family in Canada comes from a real working class area and there EVERYONE plays both hockey and lacrosse. It's much more established.
 
upstater said:
It's the same up here. Working class.

But lacrosse is the same up here as well.

I don't see much of a difference in these sports.
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Both Hockey and LAX are prevalent at the private prep schools. But as LAX is added to the program at more public schools, it's being picked up by a much wide group for sure. It's still suburban, not urban, from what I can see here in MA. Same as hockey.
 
Hockey and Lacrosse to an extent, seem to be sports,that lower middle class kids are playing in increased numbers. The upwardly mobile aspect of these sports probably does factor into the the sacrifices parents make to play.
Size and Speed and the degree of competition have limited the potential for sports like football or basketball for most kids.
In hockey ,skill ,skating ability,and the limited numbers , can somewhat off-set those factors.
I worked with a circle of hockey enthusisists who claimed that playing hockey in college could be a real tool in success after graduation.
You become part of the fraternity. I don't know if that is true or not but belief is really the only requirement. Why else would a parent get their kid up at 4:00 AM to get available ice time.
 
UConn has always been on the B1G radar and it's always been about Notre Dame. It wasn't over with the ND/ACC deal and it won't be over until ND gets all in or all out.

Rutgers and Maryland were market venues to lure Notre Dame. Maryland/Navy puts ND in DC every year; Rutgers/UConn would put them in NYC every year.

Almost (but not quite--that's a long story) every school looked at by the B1G has been evaluated on the "will it help us get Notre Dame" criteria.

Now ND has been told they can get in or get out but get the heck out of the way, and Swarbrick is jacking the press to gauge reaction. It doesn't matter any more if ND goes all in with B1G or ACC--it could be any P5 but their days of "we're special" are over. Swarbrick's is blustering about building a new Nerdball division in college footall and it's mostly a (yawn) "Yeah, whatever Jack" situation.

Irregardless the future will be fine with or without them--because television has changed everything in surprising ways. Two years ago, it was thought (notice passive sentence construction) that ND/UConn would be tied at the hip. Now, not so much. Turns out in the brave new world of college athletics, UConn's rising and ND's slipping. Much to NBC's chagrin.

The only question for UConn is: sooner or later?
 
AZHuskiePop said:
Why else would a parent get their kid up at 4:00 AM to get available ice time.
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Because the parent needs something to do.

This winter season of soccer emphasized that point to me. Because fewer kids play soccer in winter months, my child's travel club team went up against some of the premier teams in the area in the same league (they don't compete against each other spring/summer). The premier teams have professional coaches, top notch facilities, several practices a week. It's a big ticket $$ for those teams. My kid went to one of their camps last summer and was told by 10 year olds in absolute terms that they intend to become professionals. Then when you go to see the games, the parents' involvement in the whole charade becomes pretty evident.

Then again, a friend who was not rah-rah about soccer nor high-stakes sports went along grudgingly with his son joining a premier team. His son was actually a top ranked kid from the area (by USA soccer) but he experienced burnout at age 14 and took the year off. I asked my friend how he felt about it: "Devastated." After putting all that time, effort and $$$ in, 4 days a week, year round, tens of thousands, and your kid takes a year off. And you weren't the one pushing it in the first place.
 
upstater said:
Because the parent needs something to do.

....

I asked my friend how he felt about it: "Devastated." After putting all that time, effort and $$$ in, 4 days a week, year round, tens of thousands, and your kid takes a year off. And you weren't the one pushing it in the first place.
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Absolutely. I'm basically you're friend. My wife is Canadian... I was like, sure go ahead, sign them up for hockey... I don't care... now after investing so much time into it... I'd be devastated if my kids decided to stop playing. Not because I have any great expectations that he (or she) is going to play college hockey, the odds are astronomically thin... because yes less kids play... but there really aren't that many scholarships available... certainly far less than 100 programs offer scholarships... and even less on the girls side.. but I'd have a giant void and have to get a new hobby, although the sleeping in on Saturday's and Sunday's would be nice... not to mention I love spending all the time with them... luckily he seems to like it more and more every year.

Talk about a run on.
 
TruDomGopher said:
UConn has always been on the B1G radar and it's always been about Notre Dame. It wasn't over with the ND/ACC deal and it won't be over until ND gets all in or all out.

Rutgers and Maryland were market venues to lure Notre Dame. Maryland/Navy puts ND in DC every year; Rutgers/UConn would put them in NYC every year.

Almost (but not quite--that's a long story) every school looked at by the B1G has been evaluated on the "will it help us get Notre Dame" criteria.

Now ND has been told they can get in or get out but get the heck out of the way, and Swarbrick is jacking the press to gauge reaction. It doesn't matter any more if ND goes all in with B1G or ACC--it could be any P5 but their days of "we're special" are over. Swarbrick's is blustering about building a new Nerdball division in college footall and it's mostly a (yawn) "Yeah, whatever Jack" situation.

Irregardless the future will be fine with or without them--because television has changed everything in surprising ways. Two years ago, it was thought (notice passive sentence construction) that ND/UConn would be tied at the hip. Now, not so much. Turns out in the brave new world of college athletics, UConn's rising and ND's slipping. Much to NBC's chagrin.

The only question for UConn is: sooner or later?
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Who has EVER thought UConn and ND are tied to together in anyway? I have never heard of that before(even in a passive way)in any way shape or form except now. ND will never join the Big 10. EVER, Uconn hopefully will and then peace will rein supreme throughout the land. UConn deserves to be in a P-5 conference and that is a total separate deal in regards to ND.

If and that is a BIG if we join a conference we have let it be known where it will be.

I'm hope ND is slipping on the Big 10 radar.
I actually like and respect the Big 10 because they actually care about Academics(Most). I am not one of those ND fans that bash the Big 10. But we(Big and ND) are not mean t to be together.

NBC is ecstatic with our deal, so much so they signed ND hockey to its own deal on NBCsports.
 
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upstater said:
Then again, a friend who was not rah-rah about soccer nor high-stakes sports went along grudgingly with his son joining a premier team. His son was actually a top ranked kid from the area (by USA soccer) but he experienced burnout at age 14 and took the year off. I asked my friend how he felt about it: "Devastated." After putting all that time, effort and $$$ in, 4 days a week, year round, tens of thousands, and your kid takes a year off. And you weren't the one pushing it in the first place.
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I experienced that same burnout when I was 13 in baseball. It was too much, too many teams, practices, camps, etc as a teenager with school and a newly found social life. My Dad who was a great pitcher in his day, even invited to Cardinals camp in the 60's , wasn't really thrilled, but was okay with it. I played a little in high school but was never good enough to go beyond that. Taking time off really hurt my development, all my friends passed me in talent. Funny thing is, at 37, I still play in a wood bat league in Charlotte and love it. I Love playing baseball more now that when I was younger, it's no longer a choir like it was when I was a kid. If my dad had forced me to keep playing, I would end up hating him and the game. I think a lot of parents force activities on their kids so they can live through them.
 
TruDomGopher said:
UConn has always been on the B1G radar and it's always been about Notre Dame. It wasn't over with the ND/ACC deal and it won't be over until ND gets all in or all out.

Rutgers and Maryland were market venues to lure Notre Dame. Maryland/Navy puts ND in DC every year; Rutgers/UConn would put them in NYC every year.

Almost (but not quite--that's a long story) every school looked at by the B1G has been evaluated on the "will it help us get Notre Dame" criteria.

Now ND has been told they can get in or get out but get the heck out of the way, and Swarbrick is jacking the press to gauge reaction. It doesn't matter any more if ND goes all in with B1G or ACC--it could be any P5 but their days of "we're special" are over. Swarbrick's is blustering about building a new Nerdball division in college footall and it's mostly a (yawn) "Yeah, whatever Jack" situation.

Irregardless the future will be fine with or without them--because television has changed everything in surprising ways. Two years ago, it was thought (notice passive sentence construction) that ND/UConn would be tied at the hip. Now, not so much. Turns out in the brave new world of college athletics, UConn's rising and ND's slipping. Much to NBC's chagrin.

The only question for UConn is: sooner or later?
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You had me until the penultimate line. I'm as biased as anyone, but I'll believe that Jim Calhoun signed the Declaration of Independence before I'll believe that Notre Dame's stock is slipping and UConn's is rising in the world of Conference Realignment.
 
Jostar- thanks for posting all of these as I'm not a Twitter guy!

Dude is an absolute moron, period! How can he justify his position that Uconn at a $38mil value doesn't bring enough $$ to warrant a 40-50 mil B1G payout?? 38 mil in the AAC dumpster fire is pretty dam good as I see it. It would be PRETTY easy to break that $40mil+ barrier with a B1G schedule, in fact I believe Delaney is on the record with a comment similar.
 
UConnMike04 said:
I agree 1000%. I don't want to be in either conference, but speaking for a year or two for basketball I'd rather be in the BE. I know it'll never happen, but I'd rather just play local teams that we are familiar with and have histories with for a year or two if we are expecting an invite and leave the football in the AAC. I know it's not going to happen, but if the B1G said "you have a guarantee for 2018. Do what you must until then." I'd prefer for the next year or two to put basketball back there and keep football in the AAC. I know it's just fantasy though.
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Our Basketball travel schedule this year was crazy.
There were NBA teams with easier schedules.
1/13 at Tulsa
1/17 at Stamford
1/22 home
1/25 home
1/29 at Cinncy
2/01 at Houston
2/4 home
2/7 at Tulane
2/12 home
2/14 at SMU
2/19 at Memphis
The Houston,home New Orleans ,home,back to Dallaa was a ridicules stretch.
That's the best agrument for a regional conference.
The ACC ,and the B1G are actually more regional than the AAC
 
NC_Uconn_Fan said:
I experienced that same burnout when I was 13 in baseball. It was too much, too many teams, practices, camps, etc as a teenager with school and a newly found social life. My Dad who was a great pitcher in his day, even invited to Cardinals camp in the 60's , wasn't really thrilled, but was okay with it. I played a little in high school but was never good enough to go beyond that. Taking time off really hurt my development, all my friends passed me in talent. Funny thing is, at 37, I still play in a wood bat league in Charlotte and love it. I Love playing baseball more now that when I was younger, it's no longer a choir like it was when I was a kid. If my dad had forced me to keep playing, I would end up hating him and the game. I think a lot of parents force activities on their kids so they can live through them.
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Last summer, after completing the travel softball season, my daughter (she was 14) and I were talking about her hitting. I told her I couldn't help her anymore and she could not self diagnose her mechanics. I told her if she wanted to progress she had to get back to 1 on 1 instruction. We'd rotate 5 week sessions every two months, blah, blah blah.

She looked at me and said, "Dad, you and I both know what I want to study in college and I want to do ROTC. I'm not going to have any time to play ball in college. Why go through all that. I just want to play and have fun."

I have a wise daughter.

I never discussed a hitting instructor again and the two of us work on her swing when it suits us.

And she has fun.
 
Flugaur @flugempire · 3h 3 hours ago
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12702767/acc-commissioner-john-swofford-says-no-plans-go-three-divisions… Swofford says no plans for ACC to go 3 divisions. Or to go to one Div/Conf. No plans for ACC to get rid of CCG

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 46m 46 minutes ago
"@CFBHeather: R/Deregulation of CCG: Larry Scott told me he hasn't even seen a proposal on it and hasn't discussed it w/ membership yet. Wow

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 46m 46 minutes ago
"@CFBHeather: R/ ACC and Big12 proposal to deregulate league title games, Scott "I'm not even aware if they gave something to the NCAA." Wow

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 45m 45 minutes ago
"@CFBHeather: Scott told me the @pac12 is not even talking about it "until we see a proposal for it understand the rationale for it.” Wow

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 42m 42 minutes ago
Bowlsby may get his deregulation of CCG...because SEC/ACC/B10/PAC wants freedom...but the guy makes up things as he goes along.Pure Amature

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 41m 41 minutes ago
"@CFBHeather: We know what the ACC WON'T do with it, per John Swofford: http://es.pn/1b7sJx8" No 3 Divisions and no Elimination of CCG
 
nd73 said:
Who has EVER thought UConn and ND are tied to together in anyway? I have never heard of that before(even in a passive way)in any way shape or form except now. ND will never join the Big 10. EVER, Uconn hopefully will and then peace will rein supreme throughout the land. UConn deserves to be in a P-5 conference and that is a total separate deal in regards to ND.

If and that is a BIG if we join a conference we have let it be known where it will be.

I'm hope ND is slipping on the Big 10 radar.
I actually like and respect the Big 10 because they actually care about Academics(Most). I am not one of those ND fans that bash the Big 10. But we(Big and ND) are not mean t to be together.

NBC is ecstatic with our deal, so much so they signed ND hockey to its own deal on NBCsports.
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Uh, I heard and bought it--why do think I'm here? In retrospect, it was probably bs to sooth ruffled feathers at the extraordinary brand coup of Rutgers/Maryland but at the time I bought in completely. You know, Delany, white whale, etc. BTW, it's a what? three year old rumor and probably only made the rounds on the B1G side.

As for the other thing: Yes, I'm sure Mark Lazarus was thrilled to wake up to his soft-boiled egg and oj to find Swarbrick stabbing him in the back. He probably lit up like the 4th of July: "Gordon Gee's right about these guys! My entire college football programming is now saying, 'Oh, yeah, and we don't care if our games count in the playoffs. We're special' The ratings are already softening in the ACC and now this?! Get Jack on the phone now!"

Or: Mark Lazarus talked with Jack Swarbrick ahead of time and it went like this:

Mark: Jack, the Big Ten deal's coming up and we need to make a move on it. It would help if you'd be...flexible.
Jack: How?
Mark: Join a conference--we all know where this going and there's no room for independents anymore. If you want to join the Big Ten...
Jack: I don't.
Mark: But if you did, the money's there to jailbreak the ACC and buy in. We're talking a lot of money. You bring NBC and your football games and the rest takes care of itself.
Jack: How much money?
Mark: You'll never have to pray again.
Jack: (Conscious-stricken) I'll think about it.

Or: Jack calls Gordan Gee:

Jack: Gordon!
Gordon: Jack! What's up?
Jack: Nothing--haven't trolled the press for awhile so I was going to string them along and, of course, I thought of you.

There might be other possibilities. That's just off the top of my head but Swarbrick's pushing the panic button in the press says a lot more than most people have caught onto yet. I'm sure NBC's happy with any sports right deal. For now.
 
TruDomGopher said:
Uh, I heard and bought it--why do think I'm here? In retrospect, it was probably bs to sooth ruffled feathers at the extraordinary brand coup of Rutgers/Maryland but at the time I bought in completely. You know, Delany, white whale, etc. BTW, it's a what? three year old rumor and probably only made the rounds on the B1G side.

As for the other thing: Yes, I'm sure Mark Lazarus was thrilled to wake up to his soft-boiled egg and oj to find Swarbrick stabbing him in the back. He probably lit up like the 4th of July: "Gordon Gee's right about these guys! My entire college football programming is now saying, 'Oh, yeah, and we don't care if our games count in the playoffs. We're special' The ratings are already softening in the ACC and now this?! Get Jack on the phone now!"

Or: Mark Lazarus talked with Jack Swarbrick ahead of time and it went like this:

Mark: Jack, the Big Ten deal's coming up and we need to make a move on it. It would help if you'd be...flexible.
Jack: How?
Mark: Join a conference--we all know where this going and there's no room for independents anymore. If you want to join the Big Ten...
Jack: I don't.
Mark: But if you did, the money's there to jailbreak the ACC and buy in. We're talking a lot of money. You bring NBC and your football games and the rest takes care of itself.
Jack: How much money?
Mark: You'll never have to pray again.
Jack: (Conscious-stricken) I'll think about it.

Or: Jack calls Gordan Gee:

Jack: Gordon!
Gordon: Jack! What's up?
Jack: Nothing--haven't trolled the press for awhile so I was going to string them along and, of course, I thought of you.

There might be other possibilities. That's just off the top of my head but Swarbrick's pushing the panic button in the press says a lot more than most people have caught onto yet. I'm sure NBC's happy with any sports right deal. For now.
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Link this so I can read about us being linked to UConn please. I've never seen it.

Why would he call Gordon Gee who is President of WVU?
 
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