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We have better basketball (WBB & MBB) and football programs than UNC. And our DMA is top 30. Just sayin…
Supposedly, that wasn't necessarily the case. The Big 10 wanted USC and UCLA, but when the Pac 12 blew up, they were willing to take Washington and Oregon earlier than expected at a reduced rate. There seemed to be interest in Stanford and maybe Cal, but the Big 10 was not willing to absorb 5 or 6 new schools at one time.Big 10 didn’t want Stanford 2 years ago but they do now. Sure.
A lot of decent people have wasted a considerable amount of their lives hanging on these characters' every word with bated breath, hoping against hope that the hopeless will eventually come to pass.
It might, but not because one of these wannabe keyboard warriors has any inside dope.
Acknowledging the UGA football brand already in the SEC, possibly UNC hoop brand very evident in the Palmetto State along with USC, media and advertising decision makers may still like Clemson’s recent decades gridiron image despite the Tigers’ declining success.
Stanford and B1G? Accommodating ND and B1G academic administrators, further B1G academic consortium Silicon Valley access and dinero? Athletics? Not football nor hoops success lately, IDK, overall athletic program annual success? Otherwise, no friggin clue.
Everyone likes a good train wreck!
I didn't know it changed from Cabela's to Bass Pro Shops. Bass Pro Shops acquierd Cabela's in 2017. BPS is elevating East Hartford and bringing in the big guns, so to speak. SEC!
Remember that we had a 10 game deal to do just that that, effectively, got vetoed by the state legislature. I often wonder whether our fortunes would've changed if that deal had gone through. The exposure would've been great for us, and having an ongoing relationship with ND might have been useful.Plus our football team is competitive again, I would take a ND or similar game at MetLife or Foxboro if available.
I do not think it will happen now. Now with revenue share teams need to maximize revenue. Unless you are an elite team or one of the service academies you are not getting that game.Remember that we had a 10 game deal to do just that that, effectively, got Vito by the state legislature. I often wonder whether or fortunes would've changed if that deal had gone through. The exposure would've been great for us, and having an ongoing relationship with ND might have been useful.
The one who really should take notice is the ACC leadership. UConn's best fit is the ACC. They are just so dumb.I wonder if Yormark was at the UConn-BYU game last night. If he wants the Northeast we can deliver!
Not only do we own Storrs South at MSG but we have had 2 solid showings in Boston over the last 11 months! Plus our football team is competitive again, I would take a ND or similar game at MetLife or Foxboro if available.
Basketball is undervalued. If people making the decision were actually strategic they could corner market on hoops and gain a monetary advantage. Instead? They are diluting their brands by putting 18 teams in a conference.Honestly, I don't think anyone else has an interest in Duke, which goes to the point that basketball success really doesn't matter.
Only because the NCAA takes the lion's share of basketball profits, whereas the conferences keep the lion's share of football profits.Basketball is undervalued.
The majority of money for basketball comes from the NCAA basketball tournament which is controlled by the NCAA.Only because the NCAA takes the lion's share of basketball profits, whereas the conferences keep the lion's share of football profits.
March Madness revenues are shared way beyond basketball - and into D2 and D3.The majority of money for basketball comes from the NCAA basketball tournament which is controlled by the NCAA.
And administrative costs. It is the cash cow for the NCAA.March Madness revenues are shared way beyond basketball - and into D2 and D3.
And it now will also pay the House settlement. It’s more like an ATM where they can grab cash whenever they wantAnd administrative costs. It is the cash cow for the NCAA.
And it now will also pay the House settlement. It’s more like an ATM where they can grab cash whenever they want
Can someone explain like I’m 5 what it would take for the P4 plus Big East/PAC12 to control March Madness the same way the P4 owns the CFP? Would think it would be pretty easy, no?One would think that basketball breaking away from the ncaa would help our realignment chances, but rule one is always there and we have been burned too many times.
Can someone explain like I’m 5 what it would take for the P4 plus Big East/PAC12 to control March Madness the same way the P4 owns the CFP? Would think it would be pretty easy, no?
NCAA is paying previous basketball and football players $2.8 billion for the NIL settlement over the next 10 years. This money is coming from the NCAA tournament revenue. No way there is any spinoff until the money is paid out. So earliest spinoff is 2036.Can someone explain like I’m 5 what it would take for the P4 plus Big East/PAC12 to control March Madness the same way the P4 owns the CFP? Would think it would be pretty easy, no?
In part because of the lawsuits from the late 1970's, the NCAA left autonomy for major college football with the schools that wanted to pursue it (Big 10, SEC, SWC, Big 8, etc.). They split division 1 (for football only) into 1A & 1AA (later FBS & FCS). The C in FCS stands for championship as the winner of this tournament each year is the NCAA D1 football champion (although the world recognizes the top FBS school as champion).Can someone explain like I’m 5 what it would take for the P4 plus Big East/PAC12 to control March Madness the same way the P4 owns the CFP? Would think it would be pretty easy, no?
I just do not see basketball spinning off. There are many more colleges that are competitive in basketball than football. I would think congress and courts would get involved if a significant number of teams did not have access to the basketball tournament. Football particularly for a chance at a national championship has always been limited to perhaps 20 schools. True before NIL and true after.In part because of the lawsuits from the late 1970's, the NCAA left autonomy for major college football with the schools that wanted to pursue it (Big 10, SEC, SWC, Big 8, etc.). They split division 1 (for football only) into 1A & 1AA (later FBS & FCS). The C in FCS stands for championship as the winner of this tournament each year is the NCAA D1 football champion (although the world recognizes the top FBS school as champion).
At the time broadcast revenues were substantially smaller than what they have become. As the NCAA doesn't control FBS football, they cannot extract revenue from the product the way they do with all other sports and football at FCS and lower levels.
Outside of NCAA tournaments, broadcast revenues are earned by conferences and distributed to conference members (with exception of local radio and other minor items that most conferences allow individual schools to negotiate separately). This is where the P-4 gains it's largest advantage as the most lucrative product (FBS football) doesn't have to pass it's revenue through the NCAA.
We are decades beyond the point of being able to get the toothpaste back in the tube so to speak and the NCAA is petrified that the top 65+ schools will pack up and form their own intercollegiate athletic association, leaving the one legitimate revenue generating product (men's basketball tournament) as a second rate product as most of the best teams will be part of the new association's tournament to end each season.
The argument in favor of the inclusion of the big east is that prior to last year 50% of the last decade's men's basketball national champions were from the Big East. That makes a pretty good argument for including Connecticut and a reasonably decent one for including Villanova.Why would they bother if including the Big East and PAC 12? Why share?
The argument in favor of the inclusion of the big east is that prior to last year 50% of the last decade's men's basketball national champions were from the Big East. That makes a pretty good argument for including Connecticut and a reasonably decent one for including Villanova.