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WestCoastHusky said:
There are some serious dimwits with single digit IQs working in the American media, and I am not just talking about sports either.
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Anyone can pretend to be media these days. All you need is a phone and a few social media accounts. Not much of a threshold to overcome. Which is very unfortunate
 
businesslawyer said:
No. Could we use words more carefully. The SEC “has” the Alabama market. The ACC does not “have” the New England and New York markets. The ACC is “in” the New England and New York markets. There is a huge difference. Especially with the New York market, adding UConn would not mean the ACC “has” the New York market. It would, however, greatly strengthen the ACC in the New York market.

Being in a market gets you on cable boxes. A few years ago that was the dominant factor for a conference economically.. We are moving towards eyeballs mattering, and not just market presence.
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tarheeltribune.com

When the ACC Tournament is in Brooklyn, it doesn’t feel like home -

NEW YORK — There is lots to dislike about the expanded ACC, and including Brooklyn in the rotation for the league’s tradition-rich tournament is near the top of the list. The Barclays Center does an excellent job of staging the tournament and that would be fine if was located in a city that knew...
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businesslawyer said:
No. Could we use words more carefully. The SEC “has” the Alabama market. The ACC does not “have” the New England and New York markets. The ACC is “in” the New England and New York markets. There is a huge difference. Especially with the New York market, adding UConn would not mean the ACC “has” the New York market. It would, however, greatly strengthen the ACC in the New York market.

Being in a market gets you on cable boxes. A few years ago that was the dominant factor for a conference economically.. We are moving towards eyeballs mattering, and not just market presence.
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Businesslawyer is absolutely right here!
 
businesslawyer said:
No. Could we use words more carefully. The SEC “has” the Alabama market. The ACC does not “have” the New England and New York markets. The ACC is “in” the New England and New York markets. There is a huge difference. Especially with the New York market, adding UConn would not mean the ACC “has” the New York market. It would, however, greatly strengthen the ACC in the New York market.

Being in a market gets you on cable boxes. A few years ago that was the dominant factor for a conference economically.. We are moving towards eyeballs mattering, and not just market presence.
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I believe that the 5 biggest college ‘brands’ in NYC between TV ratings/eyeballs; and alumni is 1) Rutgers, 2) Syracuse, 3) UConn, 4) Notre Dame, and 5) Penn St.
 
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DarthGrumpy said:
I believe that the 5 biggest college ‘brands’ in NYC between TV ratings/eyeballs; and alumni is 1) Rutgers, 2) Syracuse, 3) UConn, 4) Notre Dame, and 5) Penn St.
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Lol, I'm sure you do believe that. It isn't remotely accurate, but accuracy is not necessary for belief, right?
 
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DarthGrumpy said:
I believe that the 5 biggest college ‘brands’ in NYC between TV ratings/eyeballs; and alumni is 1) Rutgers, 2) Syracuse, 3) UConn, 4) Notre Dame, and 5) Penn St.
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Rutgers plays basketball?
 
CL82 said:
Lol, I'm sure you do believe that. It isn't remotely accurate, but accuracy is not necessary for belief, right?
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When Rutgers was added to the B1G, WSJ came out with a report that combined ‘official’ alumni numbers with fans of college football in NYC. It’s behind a paywall.

www.wsj.com

What Is New York’s Favorite College Team?

As the Big Apple prepares to host ESPN’s College GameDay for the first time, The Wall Street Journal planted spies along the city’s top running routes to gauge which school’s alumni are most rabid
www.wsj.com www.wsj.com

Rutgers was far and away #1, which makes sense considering the size of the school and how close it is. Syracuse and UConn were the next two and basically tied. ND came in at #4 by combining a mix of actual ND alumni and those who graduated from other Catholic colleges who are also loyal to ND as football fans (BC who?). Penn St. was 5th, which is understandable based on how big it is both in terms of students (40K undergraduates at University Park v. 24K in Storrs, which is 10K more than just 20 years ago), college football history, and that it is just 100 miles further from NYC than Storrs (btw, same distance as Syracuse).
 
DarthGrumpy said:
When Rutgers was added to the B1G, WSJ came out with a report that combined ‘official’ alumni numbers with fans of college football in NYC. It’s behind a paywall.

www.wsj.com

What Is New York’s Favorite College Team?

As the Big Apple prepares to host ESPN’s College GameDay for the first time, The Wall Street Journal planted spies along the city’s top running routes to gauge which school’s alumni are most rabid
www.wsj.com www.wsj.com

Rutgers was far and away #1, which makes sense considering the size of the school and how close it is. Syracuse and UConn were the next two and basically tied. ND came in at #4 by combining a mix of actual ND alumni and those who graduated from other Catholic colleges who are also loyal to ND as football fans (BC who?). Penn St. was 5th, which is understandable based on how big it is both in terms of students (40K undergraduates at University Park v. 24K in Storrs, which is 10K more than just 20 years ago), college football history, and that it is just 100 miles further from NYC than Storrs (btw, same distance as Syracuse).
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Access full article here <<
 
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DarthGrumpy said:
When Rutgers was added to the B1G, WSJ came out with a report that combined ‘official’ alumni numbers with fans of college football in NYC. It’s behind a paywall.
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I'd like to see the breakdown of alumni and fans for Rutgers (I imagine the WSJ's numbers are almost entirely alumni).

If they only counted those who care about college football Rutgers' number would be miniscule. If that a large number in NYC cared about Rutgers, New York bars would be selling a whole lot more alcohol.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I'd like to see the breakdown of alumni and fans for Rutgers (I imagine the WSJ's numbers are almost entirely alumni).

If they only counted those who care about college football Rutgers' number would be miniscule. If that a large number in NYC cared about Rutgers, New York bars would be selling a whole lot more alcohol.
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It's a really stupid list. I think it's pretty safe to say most Rutgers grads aren't big Rutgers sports fans.
 
OkaForPrez said:
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This whole venture they are on is going to blow up in their face. And it must really suck to be WVU right now…your current conference mates are dumping on you, but so too are schools they voted in.
 
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Unless the payoff is 3X+ for basketball only to the Big 12, UConn should stay put in the Big East for now. That said, regardless of what happens, the next 2-4 years will determine UConn's long term fate. The only way we can control our destiny is by consistently winning. The good news is that we have the coaching to do that...
 
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DarthGrumpy said:
When Rutgers was added to the B1G, WSJ came out with a report that combined ‘official’ alumni numbers with fans of college football in NYC. It’s behind a paywall.

www.wsj.com

What Is New York’s Favorite College Team?

As the Big Apple prepares to host ESPN’s College GameDay for the first time, The Wall Street Journal planted spies along the city’s top running routes to gauge which school’s alumni are most rabid
www.wsj.com www.wsj.com

Rutgers was far and away #1, which makes sense considering the size of the school and how close it is. Syracuse and UConn were the next two and basically tied. ND came in at #4 by combining a mix of actual ND alumni and those who graduated from other Catholic colleges who are also loyal to ND as football fans (BC who?). Penn St. was 5th, which is understandable based on how big it is both in terms of students (40K undergraduates at University Park v. 24K in Storrs, which is 10K more than just 20 years ago), college football history, and that it is just 100 miles further from NYC than Storrs (btw, same distance as Syracuse).
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I remember the article, it was essentially based on a couple of games. Recently articles have come out about how Rutgers promoted itself using those figures. It was brilliant self-promotion. Their attractiveness to the Big Ten is based on geography and the archaic DMA system.

Rutgers doesn't "move the needle" in NYC, but it didn't need to to be useful to the Big 10. Heck they barely move the needle in Newark. Let's see if they can sell out Prudential Arena for the game they have scheduled there this fall before we crown the kings of NYC.
 
CL82 said:
I remember the article, it was essentially based on a couple of games. Recently articles have come out about how Rutgers promoted itself using those figures. It was brilliant self-promotion. Their attractiveness to the Big Ten is based on geography and the archaic DMA system.

Rutgers doesn't "move the needle" in NYC, but it didn't need to to be useful to the Big 10. Heck they barely move the needle in Newark. Let's see if they can sell out Prudential Arena for the game they have scheduled there this fall before we crown the kings of NYC.
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No one in NYC has a TV let alone watches Rutgers sports
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I'd like to see the breakdown of alumni and fans for Rutgers (I imagine the WSJ's numbers are almost entirely alumni).

If they only counted those who care about college football Rutgers' number would be miniscule. If that a large number in NYC cared about Rutgers, New York bars would be selling a whole lot more alcohol.
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I agreed that the numbers really represent more potential eyeballs on TV versus actual interest. Between that potential, where Rutgers is located, their AAU status, fertile recruiting grounds, and most importantly, the thousands of alumni from Michigan, Ohio St, etc. who live in metro NYC and do care about college football. Anyone remember how many Michigan fans showed-up at the Rent for that game? I do. ESPN and the execs in charge of this obviously do not.
 
Not that we have any shot of getting in to the B1G on media value alone, but can anyone explain to me how in the world we haven't gotten an invite to the AAU yet? If I look at the number of check boxes we have, it stands above many already-members.
 
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