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ConnHuskBask said:
Say they pass on the big12 and those 4 schools go to the big ten. Then what?
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I think Colorado, Utah and the Arizona schools were flat out told no by the Big10 (same as Washington St and Oregon St) and are talking to the Big12 as a fall back if there are any more defections.

Who has the most dead weight compared to the other out of the Big 12 and PAC? That will determine who will be the winner will be.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Say they pass on the big12 and those 4 schools go to the big ten. Then what?
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They rebuild having already added the top of the Big XII. The rest of that league will still be available as the money would be less in the next Big XII deal without Tex. Tech, Ok. State, Kansas and Houston.

This is a eat or be eaten play between these two conferences.
 
dayooper said:
I think Colorado, Utah and the Arizona schools were flat out told no by the Big10 (same as Washington St and Oregon St) and are talking to the Big12 as a fall back if there are any more defections.

Who has the most dead weight compared to the other out of the Big 12 and PAC? That will determine who will be the winner will be.
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The only dead weight in the Pac-12 is OSU and WSU. Most of the Big 12 is dead weight.
 
CL82 said:
Who do you have ahead of us?
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I wasn't thinking in terms of who is ahead of us. That may play a factor, but more in terms of if they only lose FSU and Clemson, they probably wouldn't add anymore being already at 15, prob need to get down to 10 where it will be an absolute necessity.

It's also a careful balance that the ACC needs to weaken but not too much that they get poached by whatever becomes of PAC and B12 to merge.

It needs to lose a bit but not too much so that i can stand on its own and that's where UConn fits in.
 
college football fan@Genetics56 · 28m
Source: "the hold up with Oregon and Washington is disagreement with what they (FOX vs Big Ten) want to pay them per year. Fox does not feel those two schools are worth the full payout. We aren't talking reduced pay for a 6-year entry period."

Mickey McGuire@micmcgee · 8m
Replying to @Genetics56
This is confusing. Who isn’t talking reduced pay - because it sounds like Fox and B1G are? Is this from the point of view of both Oregon and UW? They would actually turn down B1G unless they got full share? That seems silly considering half share is still more than PAC deal

college football fan@Genetics56 · 6m
FOX feels their value is not worth the full payout after the buyin period.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 27m
Source: "Notre Dame's value is so large, which is north of $300M per year, that they (the Big Ten AND FOX) can eat up the losses. But the Big Ten and FOX will not take Stanford, California, Oregon and Washington. That is off the table."

college football fan@Genetics56 · 27m
Source: "Pete Thamel is correct with his information that Washington and Oregon to the Big Ten is not a slam dunk. They ARE dependent on Notre Dame. However, a certain billionaire could buy Oregon's way into the Big Ten by themselves alone."

college football fan@Genetics56 · 24m
Source: "the pecking order for the Big Ten for the ACC schools are Virginia and North Carolina. FOX wants North Carolina, Clemson, Florida State and Miami."

college football fan@Genetics56 · 26m
Source: "Notre Dame to the Big Ten - there is an agreement between the Big Ten and FOX for paying the normal entry payout to Oregon and/or Washington, and/or Stanford."

TMAC@Tmacreactz · 16m
What’s your source lol

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8m
inside the big ten at an ad office

college football fan@Genetics56 · 13m
7/5/2022. Big Ten/FOX want 24 to 28 schools. FOX is not keen on adding OR and WA due to pay value. OR + WA +Stanf. r dependt on ND. ND lds to OR/Stanfd. Big Ten for the ACC schols are VA and NC (GA Tech behind 2). FOX wants NC, Clemson, FSU, and Miami. Brkaway goal = 2024
 
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CAtlantic said:
college football fan@Genetics56 · 28m
Source: "the hold up with Oregon and Washington is disagreement with what they (FOX vs Big Ten) want to pay them per year. Fox does not feel those two schools are worth the full payout. We aren't talking reduced pay for a 6-year entry period."

Mickey McGuire@micmcgee · 8m
Replying to @Genetics56
This is confusing. Who isn’t talking reduced pay - because it sounds like Fox and B1G are? Is this from the point of view of both Oregon and UW? They would actually turn down B1G unless they got full share? That seems silly considering half share is still more than PAC deal

college football fan@Genetics56 · 6m
FOX feels their value is not worth the full payout after the buyin period.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 27m
Source: "Notre Dame's value is so large, which is north of $300M per year, that they (the Big Ten AND FOX) can eat up the losses. But the Big Ten and FOX will not take Stanford, California, Oregon and Washington. That is off the table."

college football fan@Genetics56 · 27m
Source: "Pete Thamel is correct with his information that Washington and Oregon to the Big Ten is not a slam dunk. They ARE dependent on Notre Dame. However, a certain billionaire could buy Oregon's way into the Big Ten by themselves alone."

college football fan@Genetics56 · 24m
Source: "the pecking order for the Big Ten for the ACC schools are Virginia and North Carolina. FOX wants North Carolina, Clemson, Florida State and Miami."

college football fan@Genetics56 · 26m
Source: "Notre Dame to the Big Ten - there is an agreement between the Big Ten and FOX for paying the normal entry payout to Oregon and/or Washington, and/or Stanford."

TMAC@Tmacreactz · 16m
What’s your source lol

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8m
inside the big ten at an ad office

college football fan@Genetics56 · 13m
7/5/2022. Big Ten/FOX want 24 to 28 schools. FOX is not keen on adding OR and WA due to pay value. OR + WA +Stanf. r dependt on ND. ND lds to OR/Stanfd. Big Ten for the ACC schols are VA and NC (GA Tech behind 2). FOX wants NC, Clemson, FSU, and Miami. Brkaway goal = 2024
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Brkaway goal = 2024

Gives Mora two years to turn things around.
 
Urcea said:
Need to show value. 4-8 then 6-6 with a bowl along with a final four appearance will do the trick, I think.
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Can I have some of whatever you’re smoking?
 



college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
I was just told the Big Ten is now tracking twitter for a certain school. They did the same thing with UCLA and USC. I checked the evidence and it is true.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
FYI...this is not for Kansas or Notre Dame. I don't want to name the school in open. I already get tracked like a hawk as it is.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 57m
Why would the Big Ten track Twitter? Legally binding NDA's. Making sure nobody breaks them.



MH ver3@MH ver3 · 34m
RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet”

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 32m
Clash of Champions Bowl: ACC champ and PAC 12 champ will play an extra game after conference championship at a ytbd location.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 31m
Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 30m
Again that is a rumor. But it comes from a well connected source that feels like this could be a potential starting point for negotiations
 
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How did the Longhorn Network work out for the Big 12? Special deals like this never do their job or end well. See Big East and Miami
 
GREG SW AIM@GSw aim · 10h
The #Big12 has made their offer to the six schools in the #Pac12 very clear, and has detailed Fox TV numbers to go with it. From last night I understand the offer does has an expiration date of 30 days, so finally the B12 has a commish with testiculos!!

GREG SW AIM@GSw aim · 10h
With the college clients we have, I sometimes get some tips from what they're hearing. While I can't quote them, I will say that two #Pac12 assistants at different schools are hearing that the P12 will dissolve and multiple teams going #Big12, including their schools.

GREG SW AIM@GSw aim · 9h
One called 10 minutes ago, as he said, "We are apparently expanding our recruiting territory to your neighborhood." The other school goes everywhere already!!

GREG SW AIM@GSw aim · 3h
FoxSports sure has controlled this well. They have the #B1G, #Big12 and #Pac12, but P12 has bad ratings so Fox doesn't want to keep throwing money away. Gets the P12 to impode and they're off the hook, but still have their money making teams stay with Fox conferences

GREG SW AIM@GSw aim · 2h
#Big12 word out of Dallas is that while nothing official yet, the #Buffs, #BearDown and #SunDevils in already in principle. You'll likely see this in tomorrow's newspaper in Denver, Tucson and Tempe. #Ducks still holding out for a #B1G offer that will likely never come.

GREG SW AIM@GSw aim · 2h
Klatt thinks #Buffs to #Big12. I give this more credence that he works for FoxSports than that he's a Colorado and Big 8 alumnus

GREG SW AIM@GSw aim · 1h
One thing in this #ConferenceRealignment that I haven't seen anyone address is the #Big12's Tier 3 rights. The B12 is the only conference that allowed them previously, and it will bear watching to see if they continue to allow Tier 3 or get their own network.


MH ver3@MH ver3 · 2h
One B12 source thinks the ACC/PAC alliance talk is being used as leverage to get B12 to let UT and OU out early with only the exit fee as penalty. They have inferred as much to B12 leadership.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 1h
RUMOR: late night rumor here thanks to a source on the west coast. CBS has informally told Pac12 they will not be a player for their rights once the 30 day exclusive window with fox/espn is over

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 1h
That is huge for B12 as CBS has made it known they want another conference to replace SEC with. That only leaves B12 and that could exponentially increase our next contract if Fox/espn/ and cbs are bidding.

Jonathon Little@JonathonLittle · 34m
Do you get the impression that if the 4 corners weren’t trying to see if P12 could be salvaged a move would already be done, or is it just too early for that type of speculation?

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 24m
I’ve been told by multiple sources that the 4 corner schools submitted applications on the condition they be brought in as equal partners from day 1
 
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huskymedic said:
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Sounds like a negotiation ploy for UNC and Virginia with the B1G. Can't see UNC and Virginia actually going to the SEC. Maybe a political maneuver to get NC State and Virginia Tech a landing spot in the SEC and give UNC and Virginia the political permission to move to the B1G without leaving their state counterpart high and dry (remember, VT only got the ACC invite after political pressure in Virginia to force the ACC hand).
 
A strong segment of the UNC fanbase wants the SEC. I can’t imagine the fallout if UNC teased a move south just to get NC State a life raft. It’s possible UNC is also doing diligence with the B10, but ESPN is the linchpin and I imagine they’d rather keep UNC in-house.
 
UNC can go either Big10 or SEC. I think it fits better in the Big10, but there’s also a fit with the SEC as well. UVA? Would there be anything in the SEC that would appeal to any part of UVA? The Big10? It would be almost a perfect fit. The SEC? Not so much.

From a market point a view, does UVA even bring anything? UMD already gives the Big10 the DC market. What markets would UVA actually provide? The Norfolk market is the 43rd biggest market while Richmond is 58th. Not a real moneymaker. Are people really lining up to see UVA football and basketball? I don’t have the data on that one. I’m not sure Fox is on board with their addition. UVA has 2 strengths: non-revenue sports and academics. Would the academics piece be enough to get the Big10 presidents to push against Fox for their addition. Would UNC be in a strong enough position to demand UVA be with them?

The more I think about this, the more I think the end game is somewhere between 16 and 20. If Notre Dame and UNV choose not to join, I think we stay at 16. History has shown us that entrance into the Big10 requires AAU affiliation. Do we know for sure? Nope, but there hasn’t been a recent school added without it. Remember, Nebraska was AAU when they joined. Notre Dame might be the only exception. That leaves the Big10 with the following ACC schools: Pitt, UVA, UNC, Duke and GT. That’s it. Not much to choose from.

These wild conferences are fun to come up with and the CR Twitterati love to get their hits. Most if the stuff thrown up is useless. Just like Clemson talking to the Big10. Could they be? Sure, why not? Will it amount to anything? Probably not. This is all throwing dookie against the wall looking for hits.
 
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JeepCSC said:
A strong segment of the UNC fanbase wants the SEC. I can’t imagine the fallout if UNC teased a move south just to get NC State a life raft. It’s possible UNC is also doing diligence with the B10, but ESPN is the linchpin and I imagine they’d rather keep UNC in-house.
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Zero clue about any realignment malarkey (likely similar to most), but wonder how things work out with both UNC Chapel Hill and NC State being members of the UNC System.

IIRC from realignment V.0X several years back, the latter body selects a majority of NC State's Board of Trustees with some of the latter and UNC Chapel trustees concurrently acting as trustees of the overall UNC System. Competing interests, shared fiduciary responsibilities, etc.?

Possibilities: UNC cashes in with B1G, NC State not so much as ACC-remainder? Or, SEC throws smaller brand NC State the life raft @JeepCSC references for a further piece of fast growing Research Triangle and Charlotte markets/eyes ... ?????
 
JeepCSC said:
A strong segment of the UNC fanbase wants the SEC. I can’t imagine the fallout if UNC teased a move south just to get NC State a life raft. It’s possible UNC is also doing diligence with the B10, but ESPN is the linchpin and I imagine they’d rather keep UNC in-house.
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yes, I think it's safe to say ESPN views UNC as a more valuable brand than NC State.
 
FWIW each UNC system campus has it's own BOT's who handle day to day operation of each campus. They are appointed by the BOG who are appointed by the state legislature. UNC would need approval from both for any conference move
 
I've always thought that UNC, if given a choice, would choose the SEC.

Keeps them and their fans more Southern aligned and the SEC is more comfortable playing fast & loose with the rules when it comes to student athletes.

I would be surprised if UVA, again assuming they have a choice, chose the SEC over the B1G. If the money is the same they would likely prefer the academics that the B1G brings
 
bobbyinaz said:
I've always thought that UNC, if given a choice, would choose the SEC.

Keeps them and their fans more Southern aligned and the SEC is more comfortable playing fast & loose with the rules when it comes to student athletes.

I would be surprised if UVA, again assuming they have a choice, chose the SEC over the B1G. If the money is the same they would likely prefer the academics that the B1G brings
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UVA and UNC are at the same level academically and UVA cheats like UNC and everyone else.
 
A large contingent of the UNC fanbase wants the B10, because of academics and because the SEC doesn’t currently sponsor rowing and field hockey etc. I think the Mack Brown hiring signaled the football crowd has the upper hand at the moment (ie SEC), but who knows.

UVA’s problem is I’m not sure they are valuable by themselves. Would the B10 want them on their own if they weren’t a springboard further South? Would the SEC think twice if UNC didn’t insist? They are a program that might be 7th on a lot of lists of 6 additions.
 
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