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[Stinger92860]

Why do people keep asking this question? The answer is always the same…

30M+ reasons to say yes

 

[CAtlantic]

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
Source: "Notre Dames's first choice to join them in the Big Ten would not be Stanford, it's North Carolina."

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
Source: "Notre Dame has already made their choice and they made it more than a year ago. They know what they want to do. For whatever reason, they are going to wait for a while to do what they already know they will do."

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
Source: "The latest that is being discussed privately is the Big Ten and SEC break away from the NCAA and the rest will stay behind and have their own playoff with the current G5."

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
Source: "Phil Knight knows what the SEC and Big Ten want to do, it's why he is going to spend a lot of money, through donations to endowments, sweeten current Nicke contracts, and more, to get into the Big Ten."

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
Source: "The SEC and Big Ten would hire a league commissioner, an NIL regulatory body would be put into place, roster sizes will increase, along with staff."

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
Source: "Based on what the current conversations are, don't expect a clean break of 20 schools each for the SEC and Big Ten. Either school would be willing to work with an odd number and make the schedules work."

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
That should be conferences, not school

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
Source: "The Big Ten is going to rebrand to be known as the national conference. It's early in those discussions. Nobody knows if they will do a logo change, name change, or what they will do right now, but change is coming."

college football fan@Genetics56 · 6h
1 thing makes me scratch my head - Stanford. They haven't said a word. Nobody talks about them and the Big Ten. The Big Ten took the academic and athletic powers of USC + UCLA. Stanford wins the cup almost every yr, academic/research power. Just sitting there. What gives?

college football fan@Genetics56 · 2h
TCU + Big Ten??? What the hell is going on????

college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
There is no way in hell you take TCU without taking Oregon first. I know Fox may want a Texas presence, but you also need to be smart about this if you want to do a total takeover and box the SEC in.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
Notre Dame, Stanford, Oregon and TCU to 20 according to the folks at the Texas 247 site. That would explain the Stanford silence. Then they can get to 24 once the ACC schools become available. That puts FOX into all regions of the USA after ACC acquistions.



college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
They say TCU draws better in the Dallas metroplex than the other Texas schools for TV viewing. That would be why FOX is looking at it.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
To be clear, I'm not saying TCU info is real. I'm simply sharing what others are saying. The TCU info is NOT from anyone that I speak with. It's never even been mentioned. I have serious doubts on the TCU info being real.



Mh ver3@MH ver3 · 5h
Got some clarification on those Pac12 bylaws from my regular B12 source: leaving teams only forfeit revenues if they leave prior to August 2024. Pac12 can file an injunction if they choose but it would be a slippery slope if they wanted to do that and suspend those teams.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 5h
So there is no exit penalty at all as long as the teams stay until 2024.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 5h
So it actually may be in the interest of any teams left if the Pac12 gets further picked apart to go ahead and vote to dissolve the conference and sell off the assets.

 

[CL82]

30M+ reasons to say yes

Probably not though since the plan is to give new members half shares.

 

[Slasher]

LOL TCU in the B1G. Of all the bad rumors that one takes the cake.

 

[Chin Diesel]

What a load of nonsense. Who are these idiots?

It's a guilty pleasure reading these tweets. Guilty pleasure like eating a pint of Haagen Daas while reading up on how to lose weight and improve your health guilty.

I'll say this. The premise that the B1G will now have a dominant presence in the northeast, midwest and California compared to all other conferences in those areas is true. The state of Texas is out of play for the B1G. The deep south is out of play too and I don't know if the B1G would ever want any of those schools anyway (Save for Alabama).

Where it gets interesting for the B1G is the lower Mid-Atlantic and east coast south. That is why I think UVA, UNC, and GT are all strong desires for the B1G. Well over 20M new viewers in that area plus plenty of B1G alums working it.

State of Florida is a wild card. I think the U is way overrated- small school size, not much fan base support unless team is top 10, etc. UF obviously isn't going anywhere and no way UCF or USF even sniff the B1G. Could the B1G take a peak under the hood of FSU? IDK. It's a better school than the Free Shoes U reputation in the 80's. Not AAU but it is an R1 research school and USNWR has it as #19 public school and #55 overall (And yes, I know there are issues with USNWR rankings).

A combo of UVA, UNC, GT and FSU would give the B1G the best grouping of schools from NYC all the way to the southern tip of Florida.

 

[billybud]

FSU has announced that they have sold out their allotment of 30,000 tickets for the LSU game in New Orleans (FSU's 2nd game and New Orleans is a supposed neutral site).

Good advertising.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

FSU has announced that they have sold out their allotment of 30,000 tickets for the LSU game in New Orleans (FSU's 2nd game and New Orleans is a supposed neutral site).

In addition to an interesting match up with an oft above average SEC opponent, can't blame many FSU fans from the Redneck riviera, elsewhere in the Sunshine State, the deep south, and nearby Texas from venturing to a city with such massive cultural appeal. It would only be surprising if FSU did not sell out its ticket allotment.

 

[WestHartHusk]

In addition to an interesting match up with an oft above average SEC opponent, can't blame many FSU fans from the Redneck riviera, elsewhere in the Sunshine State, the deep south, and nearby Texas from venturing to a city with such massive cultural appeal. It would only be surprising if FSU did not sell out its ticket allotment.

I suspect cultural appeal may be headwind for FSU selling tickets.

 

[billybud]

In addition to an interesting match up with an oft above average SEC opponent, can't blame many FSU fans from the Redneck riviera, elsewhere in the Sunshine State, the deep south, and nearby Texas from venturing to a city with such massive cultural appeal. It would only be surprising if FSU did not sell out its ticket allotment.

true...but 30,000 is a largish number....to a city located 400 miles from Tallahassee...and 600 or more miles away from the homes of most FSU fans (Jax, Tampa, Orlando areas). And with a team that has had a horrible record of late. Heck, that's a great figure for a bowl outing.

If UCONN sold out 30,000 seats to play in Washington DC..(365 miles away)) I'd be as impressed.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

I suspect cultural appeal may be headwind for FSU selling tickets.

Bourbon St buds / bad beers likely entice many FSU fans. A form of cultural appeal.

 

[billybud]

Bourbon St buds / bad beers likely entice many FSU fans. A form of cultural appeal.

Many of us have done Bourbon St...

It is OK for the first time or for 25 year olds....

 

[billybud]

In 1965, as an 18 year old headed out to Parris Island in a week...I spent a week in an apartment on St. Charles...hitting Bourbon by trolley at night (first alcohol since 18 was legal in N.O.), partied until the wee hours and rode the taxi home.

Played the Conga at La Casa De Los Marinas Bar several nights.

Memories...many, many...

I still raise a glass to my homey and travel buddy....he left us way too young.

 

[Ldandy]

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
Throw out the old criteria of Big Ten expansion. The current version includes the following: academics and culture, student-athlete welfare, competition, and logistics, commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusion in sports; financial sustainability

Let me fix it for this jack wagon...

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
Throw out the old criteria of Big Ten expansion. The current version includes the following: money and money, money, money, and money, commitment to money, money, and inclusion of money; financial sustainability

 

[RegisteredUconn]

A longshot but this is a good point. It depends if the B1G values New England.

Of course the B1G values New England, as do other conferences. Taken collectively, New England would be the 17th largest state by area and 5th largest by population. The questions are how much value and to what degree can UConn deliver the region. I have no doubt that, other factors being a wash, the typical New Englander would root for UConn over a similar situated university located outside the region. New England is cohesive geographically and historically. Whatever competitive spirit BCU once had has suffered an atrophy of disuse. The Huskies would walk out onto an empty field. The only things needed are vision, commitment, and determination . . . well, some money might also help, I suppose.

 

[CAtlantic]

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 56m
I’ve got some pretty good stuff to share on longhorn network, TXOU, and the Big12. As soon as I get time tonight I’ll break it down.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 16m
So Big12 may have an ally in espn only because espn is wanting to help Texas and Oklahoma

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 15m
Espn is telling B12 through back channels that they would like to broker a deal to convert LHN into a Big12 network and secure all of B12 tier 3 rights for 7 years. There’s a catch.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 14m
The catch: Big12 lets TX and OU leave a year early with no penalty aside from the exit fee.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 11m
Schools would still be able to negotiate their own radio and local rights as well. Espn is offering a pretty penny for the T3 tv rights to all sports though.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 10m
Remember this is Tier 3 rights only. Tier 1 and 2 rights are the big money makers and they would still be up for bid once the current contract is over.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 7m
Espn is willing to pay around $8 million per year per school for these Tier3 rights which is slightly higher than what the ACC network has added to the ACC payout per school. $8m per every school that is a member once they are able to negotiate a contract.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 7m
So if we expand we need to do it before reopening the contract for negotiations

Berry GoCannon@shumanator_ ·9m
How does this benefit the B12 more than ESPN?

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 1m
It won’t. But It’s a mutually beneficial deal. And that’s a pretty huge payout for a nascent conference network.

Dan Dietzel@DanDietzel · 10m
Replying to @MH ver3
So the Big 12 gives up two teams earlier to get a network that wasn't functioning / making money?

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 2m
Converting it to a full on conference network will make it profitable and ESPN is in desperate need of content. It also signals that the Pac12 negotiations aren’t going well and espn expects the P12 to have multiple defections.

Heath@heath6303 ·15m
So would this kill any chance of getting the 4 corner schools?

MH ver3@MH ver3 ·8m
Not at all. If anything it helps

Colonel750@GibeiiBrewsong ·7m
Replying to @stoolie_elijah
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@MH ver3
It gets them into the SEC and earning money for ESPN that much sooner.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 4m
Yea it does. And saves the two schools about $100 million combined to leave early. They already say they can’t even afford the exit fee alone.

❄ Seth A ❄@KUandUofAfan · 7m
Replying to @MH ver3
I hope this isn't true. This is an ESPN-friendly deal that is so short-sighted (i.e. giving up the expansion clause or the ACC GoR) that if feels like the exact thing the @Big12Conference would do. I hope @brettyormark tells them no.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 5m
It’s a 7 year deal that would be worth $96 million-$144 million per year depending on how many we can expand by. It’s a pretty substantial payday for the content in question.



college football fan@Genetics56 · 2h
AZ’s 247Sports' Jason Scheer joined The College Football Daily pod cast today...the reason the PAC started their 30-day window to negotiate with media was because the remaining 10 demanded a valuation of how things will look for them in their next media deal.



college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
Apple is out. ESPN, NBC, Amazon came back with new bids. CBS still active in the bidding.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
Based on the latest intel of the Big Ten tv deal, I suspect it is now up to the $1.2B or $1.3B range.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
I could easily be off by $200M. I don't know the exact numbers. It should be between $80M to $105M range per school per year thought. The difference between an $80M to $100M payout per school is $200M. We will see.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
Each Big Ten school, once the new TV deal starts, will easily pass the $100M payout per year mark once you add in BTN, CFP, etc. Congrats to all Big Ten schools. That's more money than 99% of all businesses in the USA.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
You can see why Oregon needs Notre Dame to join the Big Ten. USC + UCLA roughly 15% increase (likely slightly more than that in reality). Notre Dame alone is said to be around the $200M increase in rights for the Big Ten per year....cont

college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
Notre Dame alone you are looking at around $13M per school increase. Once you have Notre Dame + Oregon you are looking at around $16.5M increase.

 

[Rufus]

college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
Notre Dame alone you are looking at around $13M per school increase. Once you have Notre Dame + Oregon you are looking at around $16.5M increase.

How does adding Oregon now add additional value to the B1G when it has been reported earlier that adding Oregon would take money away from the other B1G schools? Doesn’t make sense.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

true...but 30,000 is a largish number....to a city located 400 miles from Tallahassee...and 600 or more miles away from the homes of most FSU fans (Jax, Tampa, Orlando areas). And with a team that has had a horrible record of late. Heck, that's a great figure for a bowl outing.

If UCONN sold out 30,000 seats to play in Washington DC..(365 miles away)) I'd be as impressed.

I'd be happy to get 30,000 to our own stadium.

 

[Slasher]

college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
Notre Dame alone you are looking at around $13M per school increase. Once you have Notre Dame + Oregon you are looking at around $16.5M increase.

How does adding Oregon now add additional value to the B1G when it has been reported earlier that adding Oregon would take money away from the other B1G schools? Doesn’t make sense.

This Genetics guy has zero clue. At least our friend mh v3 makes up plausible stuff.

 

[Bobol]

I get the feeling that the Big Ten athletic conference is managed by shrewd business people who understand how to leverage advantages.

 

[billybud]

Ditto for the SEC..

 

[CL82]

This Genetics guy has zero clue. At least our friend mh v3 makes up plausible stuff.

It doesn’t need to be plausible, it just needs to have numbers associated with it.

 

[Storrs South]

 

[CAtlantic]

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 34m
Pac12(-2) schools showing solidarity today does not mean all is well. There are still 3 schools wanting to jump to B12 now, 1 school playing both sides, and 2 schools that pine for B1G. They are all trying to get the most money possible out of this renegotiated deal.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 35m
But no movement will be made until the final numbers of the new tv deal become completely clear.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 32m
The 3 that want to jump to B12 are fed up with PAC leadership. One feels they were sold a false bill of goods when they joined. The other two have been flirting with B12 for years and few they are a better fit with B12 in culture and philosophy.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 19m
Let me lay a scenario out to you all that is a real possibility but no one is talking about.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 18m
AZ, AZST, and Colorado join the B12. Utah, OR, WA forge ahead thinking they are positioned for future B1G membership and backfill with 3 MWC schools to keep 10 members and keep the PAC alive but in life support.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 17m
There’s just too many cultural differences between the coastal schools and the B12. Political and academic.


MH ver3@MH ver3 · 16m
And what’s interesting as well is my B1G source is telling me if ND decides to join B1G then Stanford is the desired partner to come with ND and they will stop there for possibly forever. Washington was their next choice. Oregon was the third choice as a ND partner.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 15m
TV money just starts to dilute badly at 16 teams and up. Oregon may never have a realistic shot at B1G But also the culture there may never allow them to join a conference with schools in TX, OK, WV, etc.

M ver3@MH ver3 · 13m
And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. There’s no reason to add anyone else to dilute the tv money just to have an even number.

UCF@ucfeverything·16m
Replying to @MH ver3
Any word on Notre Dames possible decision? Last heard they were sticking independent

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 9m
They are staying Indy for now. Most likely until ACC contract is up at least and then they will reevaluate.

Wayman@BWayman25 · 13m
Have you heard anything regarding any truth to the rumors that the Big Ten would consider TCU for a beachhead into DFW and Texas?

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 8m
No. big10 is done until ND decides.

Frank the Tank@frankthetank111
UteNation is reporting that the Pac-12 will announce that the remaining schools are sticking together. If true, the translation for this is that the Big Ten isn’t inviting any more Pac-12 schools.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
Sure...the second Oregon gets an offer from the Big Ten they are gone. Be smarter than this man. Just like the Alliance among three conferences only lasted a few months.




Comment: I always love how the Twitteratti have to claim that they know more than reputable media people, athletic directors and even universities.

 

[Kolumbo]

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Great visuals. I guess that is Johns Hopkins and Chicago in the upper right corner of the first video.

 

[Kolumbo]